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Alan Macfarlane is an anthropology lecturer at Cambridge University who recently published Japan Through the Looking-Glass. Now, I'm often wary of Japanologists, but Macfarlane (I stumbled across his lectures searching YouTube for material about my sociological hero Max Weber) says things which chime with my understanding of Japan's essential difference from the West -- things which I think even long-term Japan-resident foreigners often fail to understand deeply enough (I'm thinking particularly of eager litigant and Click Opera whipping boy Debito). I wanted today just to give you his undergraduate lecture Law and Justice in Japan, followed by my lecture notes.

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Nick's lecture notes

There's no jury service in Japan, though the Japanese are trying to adopt the system. AM considers that attempt a complete disaster, unlikely to be achievable. What the Japanese are setting up is a modified version. Instead of 12 individual humans who make a decision, Japan has the judge sitting with some lay people who are guided by him. [This, by the way, is dealt with in the TV drama Majo Saiban, The Witch Trial notes Nick.]

Western legal concepts have been involuted, convoluted and changed in Japan. Western imports have given Japanese law a surface resemblance to the law of the West (even in courthouse design), but when you look deeper, everything is different.

Absence of Crime: When societies modernize, crime rises. But Japan is a total exception. The crimes rates are low and falling. The murder rates in the US are ten times higher than those in Japan, rape rates fifteen times higher, robbery rates two hundred times higher, theft about six or seven times higher. These are corrected for under-reporting.

Japanese cities are habitable places where one may move about freely at any time of the day or night without feeling any danger.

Guns are involved in only twenty crimes a year in Tokyo. Not bad for a city of 20 million. No hard drug problems. So why?

It's not the harshness of the punishments. Japan's punishments are extremely light. Fines and suspended sentences are preferred. Very few people are sent to prison. Less than 2% of all those convicted of a crime ever serve a prison sentence. In the US that's 45%. Half the prison sentences in Japan are for one year or less (in the US, only 4% of sentences are less than a year). Japanese prisons aren't nice if you do go, though.

Are the Japanese police or prosecutors inefficient? No; they have much better solving rates (57% of reported cases solved) than US prosecutors. The conviction rate of those going to trial is 99% -- they won't send people to trial unless they're 99% certain they can convict.



A wider explanation is ethics. People don't offend because of interpersonal responsibilities. Montesquieu talked of group responsibility in Japan; whole villages were punished for one inhabitant's crime. This has maintained itself to this day; smaller groups still feel the shame if one of their members transgresses; the whole family weeps, takes the blame. A professor is responsible for their students.

A managed society: Japan is a managed society, where everyone manages, polices and surveys everyone else. This is called kanri shakai. You are reflected in the other. This is the opposite of a Western individualistic society. It stops people deviating or committing serious crimes.

There's also a sophisticated system of tracking; koseki registration at the town hall and police provides an ID card system which makes it easy to trace people.

The yakuza: Finally, the yakuza reduces crime rates in Japan. In all advanced societies, much behaviour is in the grey area between legal and illegal; drink, soft drugs, gambling, prostitution. Attempts to police them fail; the police easily get corrupted by the money, become part of that world.

The yakuza is a guild (za), about 500 years old. It began as a guild to control gambling, then drink, then prostitution and other entertainments. The yakuza have always been semi-legal. They're not like the mafia, but a public body with recruiting offices and annual meetings in big hotels. The police provide special car parking for their stretch limos, for instance.

The police have lists of yakuza members. When a crime happens, the mafia may pass on information to the local police to help them solve it.

The yakuza aren't allowed to have guns, and they don't use hard drugs. They aren't nice people -- they can be bullies -- but they do keep crime low.

Some companies use yakuza to sit in on shareholder meetings and look troubled if a shareholder raises a difficult question. In return, the yakuza might be given large holiday homes on nice Japanese beaches. The yakuza own their own legitimate businesses too; travel agencies, hotels. Income tax inspectors go and inspect their books sometimes.

Litigation: Japan is a tribal society rather like one AM studied in the highlands of Nepal. Dishonour is a bigger disincentive than legal punishment. Japan is a very large village in that sense.

Rates of civil litigation -- people suing each other about contracts, debts and so on -- are very, very low. Between one tenth and one twentieth of the rates of litigation seen in Britain or America, and falling. There are fewer lawyers and judges now in Japan, per capita, than there were in the 1920s.

Heads of houses and ruling families strongly discouraged legal redress for centuries. "All quarrels and disputes are strictly forbidden on pain of death". "Never run out of rape seed and never go to law; keep distant the hell of accusation".

There are only a tenth of the number of lawyers and judges in Japan as in the US. Germany has two thirds of Japanese population, and six times the number of judges. Japan was told it needed lawyers, so it set up big law schools training thousands of lawyers each year. But they don't need them, so 90% are failed. They can't get jobs as lawyers, but will be employed as bureaucrats, administrators, etc even after "failing".

In the West people see suing as a binary, competitive system. Someone is wrong, someone is right, your day in court is like a game of tennis, someone loses, someone wins. The alternative view is when you see the point of law as process of reconciliation, to heal wounds and return equilibrium. Stop people breaking off, stop them saying one is right, the other wrong. Rather than a competitive game, you work to harmonize, to adjust unequal statuses. People are not taken to be "equal before the law"; everything is, instead, relative to your status. What is right for an uncle to do is not what's right for a nephew to do, what's right for a man to do is not right for a woman, and so on. This view of law is tribal, non-modern, context-dependent, and Japan falls very much to this side.

The Japanese don't think of people having individual rights; the group is more important. Mediation "is the god of the towns", almost all disputes are settled out of court. The tradition is of didactic or co-erced conciliation -- uncompromising settlements strongly in favour of one party are seen as inimical to group harmony.



Why? Because of the emphasis in Japan on harmony rather than assertiveness.

A Western academic whose son cracked his head on the concrete of a school pool tried to litigate against his own school. Everyone he knew said it was against Japanese culture, he should drop it. He persisted, and basically everyone drifted away from him and he had to leave Japan, possibly also dissolving his marriage to a Japanese woman too.

Nemawashi means root binding that allows you to move a tree somewhere else. It's a principle of corporate restructuring -- you tell people over a long period that change may happen, prepare them, prevent shocks.

Embedding: Japan has an embedded political system, an embedded legal system, an embedded religious system.

Japan has one of the most advanced economies in the world, yet with an astonishingly low level of law suits. We tend to think that law suits and other civil disputes are one of the oiling mechanisms of advanced economies.

Japan is advanced, yet also shamanic and tribal. Why there should be one advanced industrial society on earth which is totally different from every other -- even neighbouring China -- is the mystery behind AM's book, and the final thought in his lecture.

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Date: 2009-08-21 11:21 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
One way in which the U.S. and Japan line up in opposition to the Europeans: the death penalty.

Instead of 12 individual humans who make a decision, Japan has the judge sitting with some lay people, being guided by him.

Surely not so wildly different. British judges often instruct juries as to what they can and cannot decide.

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Date: 2009-08-21 11:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And don't forget magistrates' courts in England & Wales.

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don't

Date: 2009-08-21 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rinusvanalebeek.livejournal.com
is the mystery behind AM's book,

too bad it didn't link to ..ehr..

confidence

Date: 2009-08-21 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When you talk about the frilly, feely sociological aspects of Japan, no one can really fault you. It's an opinion game.

But here, you're out of you league -- and potentially, your head.

There certainly are facets of the Japanese legal system that seem to work, but they work because of the decreased burden on the system by the reduced crime rates and general community initiative.

The system generally fails to defend and protect victims of crime. The police leak every piece of information worth a red cent on the market (see the current Noriko Sakai story and it's guaranteed instant leaks). The Yakuza kill people and bring people to Japan as "white slaves" and the cops take bribes and look the other way (when they aren't disempowered by law or fear). Murderers stay on the lam easily for their entire lives. For every story of a frivolous lawsuit banished, there's the story of a child killed by corporate negligence and it's complete failure to come to court due to underdeveloped tort law. Wrongful death settlements typically cover the funeral costs and not much more.

And on and on.

I love this country, and I'm glad that I haven't had to deal with the legal system. Low crime is not a sign of a good legal system anymore than good sales are a sign of good music.

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Date: 2009-08-21 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
But here, you're out of you league -- and potentially, your head.

Is the "you" here addressed to me, or to Alan Macfarlane, Emeritus Professor of Anthropological Science and a Life Fellow of King's College, Cambridge? Presumably it's Professor Macfarlane, since today's entry consists entirely of notes from his lecture. Your rebuttal is -- you admit -- based on your lack of personal experience of the Japanese legal system, plus a reading, it seems, of the more sensational crime stories in the papers. There is a difference between journalism and anthropology.

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Illumination

Date: 2009-08-21 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antonia-tiger.livejournal.com
This fits rather well with some stuff I write in a shared-world setting: an alternate-world Pacific Ocean pre-WW2. It doesn't much matter if the description of Japan is correct, but it feels right for the place the stories are set in.

Since the general history isn't so different from our world, Japan is something of a sinister threat. How much was that time an aberration? It looks as though American-style democracy is a veneer, but have some lessons taken root. One of the ideas supporting democracy is that losing an election isn't fatal. That seems compatible with the cultural preference for mediation and compromise. Has there been a change in that?

Difference

Date: 2009-08-21 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I like the idea that out there there is a different way of thinking and doing things. Unfortunately sometimes it involves aspects that are somewhat discouraging, if not scary.

There is for instance what happened to this acquaintance of mine in Japan. Some guy touched her under the skirt in the metro and so she naturally yelled at him all the negative adjectives she could think of. The man completely ignored her but then when she was about to get off he came to her and slapped her, telling her she won't embarrass him again in front of other people.

For sure these cases might not be the majority, but again, this is really not the kind of difference I would like to deal with.

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Date: 2009-08-21 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is simply a question of cultural misunderstanding. In Japan, it's simply not done to yell and abuse someone just because he's felt you up in the metro. That's considered the height of rudeness. You're supposed to just act like nothing's happened and then get off at the next stop.

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Danish law

Date: 2009-08-21 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The Japanese layman system is inspired by the Danish system among others. There has been loads of judges here to study the Danish system in recent years. From what I understand the Japanese system is not that different from ours. The judge also guides the laymen here.

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Date: 2009-08-21 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was thinking about this yesterday. Crime and social disharmony are caused by an underdeveloped sense of empathy. If you can step back and put yourself in someone else's shoes, then you aren't going to rob them, you aren't going to murder them, you aren't going to tailgate them if they drive slower on the highway.

There's no question that a culture that puts such a high value on individualism would have a deficit of empathy.

Race is a bit of a roadblock in America and Europe, but multiculturalism, more so. It's harder to empathize with people who not only don't share your culture, but might be antagonistic to it.

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Date: 2009-08-21 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It's harder to empathize with people who not only don't share your culture, but might be antagonistic to it.

Unless you're me, in which case you adore people who don't share your culture!

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Date: 2009-08-21 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
In between Marxy's tips on pant-hunting bargains and his proud claim to have authored half the essays in a magazine given away with a pair of sneakers (http://www.highsnobiety.com/news/2009/08/19/onitsuka-tiger-60th-anniversary-collectors-box-give-away/), the Neojaponisme Twitter feed (http://twitter.com/neojaponisme) weighs in (that really doesn't sound right when applied to a Twitter feed, does it?) against Professor Macfarlane, calling his views "naive".

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Date: 2009-08-21 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Interviews, not essays. I strategically try to interview as many Japanese artists as possible so that you have to start disliking them out of kneejerk. And you know what, yes, I admit it: I buy pants. If that makes you stop buying and wearing pants, I can compromise and start calling them "slacks."

Macfarlane is probably a nice guy or whatever, but he is far from what anyone would consider a "Japan scholar." He may be distinguished in wider fields, but nothing about his background or bibliography suggests that he has spent much time researching Japan, is widely read about Japan, or even is aware of the obvious counterpoints to his very simplistic renderings of these issues. If he really believes that the yakuza have no guns, he should have read, I don't know, a single book about the yakuza or read a newspaper about Japan. In the actual field of Japan Studies, the reductive "group harmony" vs. "individualism" binary has been debunked, defused, or at least highly qualified for twenty years if not longer. Glad you found the guy who has been living under a rock.

Also stop cherry-picking Japanese social organization. You gush about "harmony" but we never get to hear how great vertical hierarchy is. You love vertical hierarchy, right? Seems very Momus to be in love with obedience to higher authority out of a sense of duty.

Marxy

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Date: 2009-08-21 03:42 pm (UTC)
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Is it telling that one thing Macfarlane and Momus have in common is that neither is able to speak or read Japanese? Would it be acceptable for an academic to set himself up as an expert on, say, France, without speaking a word of French?

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Date: 2009-08-21 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I don't know about Prof Macfarlane, but I would be dishonest if I told you I spoke no Japanese. Full disclosure requires that I tell you that I speak some, and that I'm actually having a conversation in Japanese with Kyoka as I type this. However, I find that avoiding arrogance about my Japanese skill leads me to ask questions of people who not only speak Japanese, but were born and brought up in Japan. They put me right, and help me to bring things like the Majo Saiban TV series and Koki Mitani's plays to your attention.

(Bows deeply, returns to collectivity.)

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Date: 2009-08-21 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm shocked that such an inaccurate portrayal of the yakuza was given to the students of one of Britain's top universities. Professor Macfarlane's understanding of Japanese crime and punishment also has a number of terrible misconceptions which have no place in higher education.

I think it is fair to say that Japan has a low incidence of crime. That is certainly true when compared with America but, as is often the case, the United States is the global outlier so better comparisons would be with other developed nations. Even so, Japan has a better record and it is one that is worth explaining. I have no time for those who would seek to say that Japan is somehow really just the same as the west because it evidently isn't. That makes it all the worse that the professor has ended up describing a system and society that simply doesn't exist.


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Date: 2009-08-21 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
So you're not too convinced by the "keep distant the hell of accusation" theme? That the Japanese litigate far, far less than other advanced societies (the Prof's main theme here)? Is this "a system and society that simply doesn't exist"?

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UN notes continued gender inequalities in Japan

Date: 2009-08-21 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8213493.stm

love the one about light sentences for rape of women and how women must wait 6 months before remarrying, unlike men.
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in the uk the sentences are also very light and the conviction rates for rapists are also incredibly low (only 6.5%, and most won't see jail time.) i know the u.s. has similar statistics. it's inexcusable in japan or any other country, but to act like this is a problem solely of the japanese legal system is false.

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Date: 2009-08-21 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You posted this above:

"In the West people see suing as a binary, competitive system. Someone is wrong, someone is right, your day in court is like a game of tennis, someone loses, someone wins. The alternative view is when you see the point of law as process of reconciliation, to heal wounds and return equilibrium. Stop people breaking off, stop them saying one is right, the other wrong. Rather than a competitive game, you work to harmonize, to adjust unequal statuses. People are not taken to be "equal before the law"; everything is, instead, relative to your status. What is right for an uncle to do is not what's right for a nephew to do, what's right for a man to do is not right for a woman, and so on. This view of law is tribal, non-modern, context-dependent, and Japan falls very much to this side."

Don't you realize the Japanese approach to you're paraphrasing or describing ... is also present in the common law? I won't fault you for not knowing, but you're basically describing how Americans learn law in their first year of school. "Reasonable person" doctrine, the fact that most lawsuits don't go to trial and end in negotiations meant to harmonize aggrieved parties, etc. It's more complex than that, but you'd be happy to find those "Japanese" concepts very much present in Western legal education.

Of course in the US lawyers are seen as amoral mercenaries (particularly for treating evil nasty criminals as living, breathing members of society), so law itself is rather divergent from US cultural values.

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Date: 2009-08-21 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
People really need to watch the lecture itself: scroll forward to 36.36 to hear Alan Macfarlane's own description of the "two systems of justice". Both are present in other parts of the world (he calls the second one Rohanon or Tip, I couldn't quite make out the word), but Japan inclines very much towards the second. (This discussion doesn't seem to be in Macfarlane's lecture notes (http://www.alanmacfarlane.com/TEXTS/law&custom.pdf).) Macfarlane, as an anthropologist, thinks of Japan's legal system as a "tribal" one.

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Date: 2009-08-21 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bennycornelius.livejournal.com
I was taught by Alan a couple of years ago, as I mentioned a while back (http://imomus.livejournal.com/408877.html?page=2). I'm so pleased you've posted this up here, as he's a fascinating character whose insights are nearly always worth hearing. I love his readiness to engage with and write on almost any subject - a true polymath. I'd definitely recommend his website to anyone ... one can spend hours watching the interviews and reading the essays that are up there. It's a great resource, and one sadly all too uncommon (I've met academics half Alan's age whose only association with the internet is a barely checked university email address).

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Date: 2009-08-21 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Ah yes, I knew I'd met Mr Macfarlane somewhere before! You introduced us!

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Date: 2009-08-21 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
I showed this entry to a friend of mine who's a British criminal lawyer.

He's pointed out to me what he sees to be critical problems with the Japanese way of doing things.

A 99% conviction rate is indicative of corruption.
The police need to show they're competent. This efficiency is determined by conviction rates and solved case rates. That means they're pressured to not only solve rates but to get convictions. A 99% convictions rate is incredibly high, much too high. It means that it's very likely that the Japanese police offer suspected criminals outrageously low punishments to get confessions. If the police said to an innocent person "You can go to trial and potentially face 5 years in prison, and have the embarrassment and stress and shame of that trial hanging over you, ongoing for the next year or so... or you can confess and pay ¥XXXXXX in fines and nobody need be any wiser."

He's also convinced that the Japanese Law & Justice System accepts payment of money in lieu of incarceration in some really dubious cases, although he's unsure of the specifics.


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Date: 2009-08-21 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
should be "solve cases"....

SCANDAL!

Date: 2009-08-21 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loveishappiness.livejournal.com
Image
Japanese McDonald's Makes Fun of White People (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.132063)

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Date: 2009-08-22 12:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But this looks like most every other Japanese man who goes to McDonald's as well---stupid comb-over haircut, glasses, bad clothes, etc. Interesting.

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Date: 2009-08-21 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't know enough to comment one way or another--I typically just read Mutantfrog to get this topic covered by Japan Hands, but you may wish to look into this: http://www.washington.edu/uwpress/search/books/FOOLAC.html - Law in Japan: A Turning Point, by Daniel H. Foote. I read the introduction and first chapter and remember being very impressed at how well-researched and accessible it seemed. Even though I can't remember anything else about it. ^_^

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Date: 2009-08-21 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It is a good book. Mind you, if ever Momus was able to come to terms with the fact that Professor Macfarlane was talking a lot of rot - which doesn't appear imminent - then he'd find more solace in the arguments of David Ted Johnson than those of Professor Foote. Johnson takes official statistics at face value so he paints a rosier picture than Foote and co. but, unlike Macfarlane, he has at least gone to the right sources and understands what the data he finds is supposed to show.

just wary

Date: 2009-08-21 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milky-eyes.livejournal.com
great ideas, and I'm sure not completely made up...
I honestly see a place like japan 'dealing' with things in a much more 'internal' fashion and 'passive' fashion.
And a place like US, the opposite: external and active.

To draw from these ideas that one is better or right and the other is bad, is losing sight of more interesting ways to view his thinking.
I havent delved into he's writing at all so I'm not going to make any judgments.

If Japan was my natural home... I'm sure I would have the same amount of love and disgust for my country as I have for America...

One last note.
My experiece with gender roles... I much prefer the the openness of gender roles provide for in the west.
Although the idealised gender expectations of japan give me much pleasure.
The mix of Japenese ideals mixed with the openness of the west.... sure does make for one hot gf...
no?

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Date: 2009-08-22 12:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Nice Orientaliizing!

I've heard if you're married to a Japanese woman, you'd get a rude awakening as to the docile servant image though. Just ask any sarariiman who it is that calls the shots behind the scenes, holds the purse strings, etc. But this is old news, actually.

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Date: 2009-08-21 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ah, after the George Steiner/ critics-are-dead post i was wondering how long it would take for something to appear on Macfarlanes Japanese interests (quite a while- i probably missed something)

I confess to feeling that Macfarlane has traded something in clarity and depth for breadth of learning, always harbouring the suspicion that he mightn't quite understand what hes talking about even as he makes interesting comments and observations (based on having watched a few of his lectures). His wide range of videos are indeed great though, some of them quite beautiful.

My two random literary references: the idea of a guild to deal with crime Pratchett seems to have pinched for his Discworld novels; more respectably, In Chestertons 'Club of Queer Trades' an important character turns out to be a kind of tribal judge for voluntary, informal, legal proceedings in the heart of England. I wonder, is there a sub-genre of parralel legal worlds (a la The Trial)?

The film Death by Hanging by Nagisa Oshima which i'm now downloading from Veoh looks pretty relevent to this post, certainly the beginning (the part i've actually watched) is. I wonder if Momus has seen this film/ has an opinion on Oshimas work?

veoh.com/search/videos/q/death+by+hanging#watch%3Dv18885913S4atWprJ

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Date: 2009-08-22 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I saw Trial By Hanging a couple of years ago at the Arsenale cinema here in Berlin and remember being a bit disappointed by the grim and claustrophobic atmosphere. I mean, obviously that's the point, but still...

I like Boy:

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...and of course Empire of the Senses!

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Selective Enforcement

Date: 2009-08-22 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] georgesdelatour.livejournal.com
The key to the Japanese legal system is the concept of "selective enforcement". Western lawmakers have to frame laws carefully, so they can fit every imaginable eventuality. Japan's lawmakers frame laws on the assumption that they will only be enforced where it's convenient to enforce them. This also explains why western societies are relatively litigious compared to Japan.

Why move to Japan?

Date: 2009-08-22 01:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm just curious - why would anyone want to live in Japan? (aside from those born there, obviously)

I'm not saying I disagree with MacFarlane's theory, but what emerges is a very constrictive society.
- I don't feel I should be ostracized for wanting to light up a joint from time to time
- I support equal rights for women + I find the women just as unattractive as the roles and behavior pressed on them (never caught the Lolita-fever)
- I refuse to live anywhere with a death penalty and the unaddressed war-crimes bother me
- I don't like being subjected to deeply-rooted, albeit passive, xenophobia
- And I could go on like this...

I've been reading Click Opera for a few years and never have I come across a good reason other than "some interesting art/design/literature comes from there". But frankly, all that can be enjoyed from afar.
I just completely fail to see what other people find so charming about modern Japan. I can see what people see in Edo-period Japan, I mean, that's just nostalgia - but modern Japan? Nope.
Anyone care to enlighten me

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Date: 2009-08-22 02:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
...oh and regarding the xenophobia. The Japanese are more than welcome to come to my country and I gather they must like their system or they wouldn't keep it this way - so more power to them. This is just aimed at Westerners living/moving there.

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Date: 2009-08-22 05:53 pm (UTC)
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momus... fyi the (perceived) lack of litigousness in modern Japan is nothing but an 'invented tradition' that goes back no further than the Meiji era.

Not so intrinsically Japanese, then. I refer you to http://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Modernity-Traditions-Twentieth-Emergence/dp/0520206371

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Date: 2009-08-23 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
fyi the (perceived) lack of litigousness in modern Japan is nothing but an 'invented tradition' that goes back no further than the Meiji era.

That's an incredibly glib summary of the essay you link, Weak legal consciousness as invented tradition (http://books.google.com/books?id=IJDgOecLzsQC&dq=Mirror+of+Modernity:+Invented+Traditions+of+Modern+Japan&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=HvEFr2HUNP&sig=pUPDT6bSqLrhL8CX8umgANi6Z9I&hl=en&ei=wZ6QSqaDEJeKnQOrh6inAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false) by Frank K. Upham.

In fact, Upham says there's a choice of traditions. Looking at a recurring dispute in one Japanese village, he notes that "the parties were more likely to choose litigation in the earlier instances of the dispute than the later ones" (which, by the way, correlates with Prof Macfarlane's statement that litigation -- measured by lawyers per capita -- is falling in Japan). Upham does not say that non-litigation is a modern invention; that would be absurd, since non-litigation pre-dates law itself. He simply says there was a choice, and that Japan has preferred "informal" (ie non-legalised) conflict resolutions. Again, this does not contradict Prof Macfarlane.

Upham says: "While it is impossible to prove, Japanese officials and judges seem at times to prefer even violent informality to the legalization of social conflict... The political decision to limit litigation has been justified in cultural terms..." Upham then sets up what I find to be a false dichotomy between "the cultural goals of virtue and harmony" and "the instrumental goal of political control", and explains non-litigiousness in Japan as something cynical rather than harmonious. He's not disagreeing with the picture Macfarlane paints at all, just highlighting its convenience for the authorities. His argument is not that non-litigiousness is "invented", but that it serves a political purpose.

He's right, of course, but the response has to be: "Isn't low crime and a lack of legal disputes of considerable benefit to an entire society? Why should this be portrayed as benefitting only the dominant class?"

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Date: 2009-08-22 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
momus, as other posters have noted, when you hold forth on art, design, lifestyle, architecture through your japan lens, the results are interesting. When you dip your fingers into the actual dirty business that underlies a lot of how things work there, you go completely wrong. Being able to speak just a little conversational japanese means you cannot read people's opinions, you have never engaged non-english speaking japanese in serious conversation about their views, you seem to believe it can do no wrong, that your magic pixie dust will cover up all the brutality, racism and injustice that does go on every day.

Go have a read of this page on the japanese justice system as it relates to the sayama case.
http://www.imadr.org/sayama/justice.html
This is the case of a buraku guy who was setup for a murder he didn't commit back in 1963 and kept in jail for 32 years. I've met the guy & he has inspired many people to fight for change in a brutal justice system.

You might notice nice features of the justice system like 23 days in custody without charge, confessions which are not videotaped (leading to 99% conviction rate) & nondisclosure of evidence.

I read that you are thinking about going to live in japan again. Maybe you should try getting arrested and see if that changes your attitude to the japanese justice system.



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Date: 2009-08-23 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It's funny that a post entitled "Keep distant the hell of accusation!" has raised such a lot of accusation.

you go completely wrong

Again, I have to stress that all I did in this entry was reproduce, in note form, the lecture of an emeritus professor of anthropology at Cambridge University. You would have him condemn the Japanese justice system? That's not what anthropologists do. As I said before, his main concern in this lecture was to look at how little crime and litigation happens in Japan, overall, in comparison with other advanced societies, and how this bucks what we think of as an inevitable trend to crime and litigation as societies become more developed. You cannot think about this via individual cases or even laws you don't like, no matter how emotive they may be or how much they offend your political sensitivities. It's a much bigger picture, a much bigger question: how did this emphasis on the avoidance of social conflict come about in this particular civilisation? What makes it so successful, compared with other societies? Why are there such low levels of crime in Japan, even when there are such light levels of punishment? Is the existence of the yakuza one answer? And yes, why is there such an emphasis on confession, and why does confessing make such a difference? These are all things Professor Macfarlane considers. If you disagree with his answers, your grouse is with him.

(PS: 23 days without charge? Sounds pretty good to a British person (http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/issues/2-terrorism/extension-of-pre-charge-detention/index.shtml), mate! We have 28; Japan wins again.)

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Date: 2009-08-23 11:32 am (UTC)
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Summary of the arguments on this thread. Liberalism plus globalisation equals a claim from some that liberalism is a new universalism, one that can be spread via global peacetime bodies like the UN, by business, or by war. This is why right-wing neo-imperialist hawks have, over the last 20 years, increasingly adopted the vocabulary of human rights, the rule of law, and so on. But anthropologists do not think in this way. They do not see a convergence -- bureaucratic, or militarily enforced -- between different cultures as a desireable outcome. Their job is to describe difference, and the origins of difference. Anthropologists annoy the naive proponents of a universal liberalism.

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Date: 2009-08-23 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Which thread are you summarizing? I don't think that is the major thrust of the comments above at all.

I think you are a little disingenuous when you say you have only summarized the lecture. You clearly believe many of his arguments and approve of them. This indicates that you haven't looked at any of the prominent academic literature on the origins and operations of the Japanese justice system, whether in English or Japanese, whether written by economists, sociologists, lawyers, historians, politicians or, yes, anthropologists.

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