When it comes to human faces, I have two marked preferences: I prefer feminine faces to masculine ones, and I prefer women without makeup to women with.
Here's a shot from the BBC Sex ID test which told me I preferred feminine faces. I selected the face on the left as more attractive. And here's a Daily Mail feature entitled "Would you dare to go bare?" which shows women before and after makeup. In every single case, I prefer the before picture.

And -- although I was once paid by a cosmetics commercial to write a song for Kahimi Karie that went "Put some makeup on your face / Make this world a better place" -- I actually couldn't agree less with "Joe" in this Times feature entitled "Giving your makeup a makeover": "I think that all women should wear a little makeup. There is no such thing as an ugly woman, only a lazy one. My wife has a demanding job as a lawyer and has three children under the age of four and still manages to make an effort." Ugly women are only lazy ones -- women who haven't worked hard on their makeup? What preposterous misogyny!
In English we don't really have a positive word ("lazy" doesn't count) for a woman who doesn't wear makeup. In Japan, they do. The word is suppin: a fresh-faced, makeup-free woman. I think all the women I've ever dated have been suppin women. I'm not used to kissing lipstick. It would just feel wrong. The girls I find attractive are girls like this American Apparel ad girl (I think she's Mexican):

I'm not quite sure where my preferences come from. Maybe it's some kind of puritanism. "My [Pakistani] father went mad if he saw even a hint of mascara. Freedom for my friends at university meant trying drugs and drinking. For me, it meant lipstick," says Saira Khan, describing an Islamic fundamentalist upbringing probably not too different from the fundamentalist Calvinist upbringing my father had in Scotland. Then again, maybe it's just good taste.
One thing's for sure. The women spending £1000 a year on cosmetics are wasting a great deal of money if they think all men like it. We don't (although the men making and selling the stuff -- Mr Max Factor, for instance -- must love it).
I asked Hisae if she was wearing any makeup. "No," she said, as if I were crazy even to ask. So who, in Japan, wears makeup? Mostly, H told me, people who work. If you turn up at work without makeup on, the boss is going to think you woke up late and didn't have time to paint your face. Also, some girls refuse to let their boyfriends see them bare-faced. They think that, without that mask, nobody will love them. They're wrong.
I suggest we strike a blow against the cosmetics industry, and against those bullying newspaper features that try to terrorize women into buying makeup. Here's the news: many men think you look much better without it. Those men -- like me! -- believe that a positively-charged word for bare-facedness needs to be introduced, perhaps a loan word from another language (since we don't have one). I suggest suppin.
Here's a shot from the BBC Sex ID test which told me I preferred feminine faces. I selected the face on the left as more attractive. And here's a Daily Mail feature entitled "Would you dare to go bare?" which shows women before and after makeup. In every single case, I prefer the before picture.
And -- although I was once paid by a cosmetics commercial to write a song for Kahimi Karie that went "Put some makeup on your face / Make this world a better place" -- I actually couldn't agree less with "Joe" in this Times feature entitled "Giving your makeup a makeover": "I think that all women should wear a little makeup. There is no such thing as an ugly woman, only a lazy one. My wife has a demanding job as a lawyer and has three children under the age of four and still manages to make an effort." Ugly women are only lazy ones -- women who haven't worked hard on their makeup? What preposterous misogyny!
In English we don't really have a positive word ("lazy" doesn't count) for a woman who doesn't wear makeup. In Japan, they do. The word is suppin: a fresh-faced, makeup-free woman. I think all the women I've ever dated have been suppin women. I'm not used to kissing lipstick. It would just feel wrong. The girls I find attractive are girls like this American Apparel ad girl (I think she's Mexican):

I'm not quite sure where my preferences come from. Maybe it's some kind of puritanism. "My [Pakistani] father went mad if he saw even a hint of mascara. Freedom for my friends at university meant trying drugs and drinking. For me, it meant lipstick," says Saira Khan, describing an Islamic fundamentalist upbringing probably not too different from the fundamentalist Calvinist upbringing my father had in Scotland. Then again, maybe it's just good taste.
One thing's for sure. The women spending £1000 a year on cosmetics are wasting a great deal of money if they think all men like it. We don't (although the men making and selling the stuff -- Mr Max Factor, for instance -- must love it).I asked Hisae if she was wearing any makeup. "No," she said, as if I were crazy even to ask. So who, in Japan, wears makeup? Mostly, H told me, people who work. If you turn up at work without makeup on, the boss is going to think you woke up late and didn't have time to paint your face. Also, some girls refuse to let their boyfriends see them bare-faced. They think that, without that mask, nobody will love them. They're wrong.
I suggest we strike a blow against the cosmetics industry, and against those bullying newspaper features that try to terrorize women into buying makeup. Here's the news: many men think you look much better without it. Those men -- like me! -- believe that a positively-charged word for bare-facedness needs to be introduced, perhaps a loan word from another language (since we don't have one). I suggest suppin.
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Date: 2008-01-18 02:33 pm (UTC)However...
Sometimes subtle make-up is perfectly fine...
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Date: 2008-01-18 02:58 pm (UTC)these were both yuki, btw. of formerly kissui.
that said, i think you'll get a huge kick out of the mixi ads - when you set your age to "20s / women", quite horrible ads show up, of boyfriends threatening to leave you if you don't lose 5kg by christmas and such.
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Date: 2008-01-18 03:28 pm (UTC)Then there's the question of how it's marketed. Well, yes, I agree with your point about that, but it's done that way because the people selling it are in the business of making money. I think the implication that they have to market it that way otherwise nobody would want it is perhaps overly cynical.
On the other hand, of course, it becomes a far more potent medium of self-expression if more people realise they don't need it...
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Date: 2008-01-18 03:38 pm (UTC)You exclusively date 20something Asian girls, who generally have great skin. Older women may have not so great skin, and hence have recourse to makeup. Why the fuck shouldn't they? And who says they're doing it just to make themselves attractive to men? Female fashion is more about female competition than it is about attracting mates, which is why female body shapes in women's magazines are so very different from what they are in porn magazines.
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Date: 2008-01-18 04:12 pm (UTC)Women do not wear makeup and dress nicely for US. They do it to compete and show off to each other. Even the most clueless woman knows that men focus more on what's BELOW the neck than what's above it. We don't give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut what she's got on her face as long as the knickers can come off after supper and a movie. She has that pancake geisha stuff on to show other women that she is worthy, attractive and enviable.
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Date: 2008-01-18 04:31 pm (UTC)俺たちは女に化粧をさせ、踊らせる
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Date: 2008-01-18 04:45 pm (UTC)She marched into the bathroom brandishing her mascara wand, declaring loudly, "Gotta get this war paint on!"
war paint
I have never seen makeup in the same light since.
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Date: 2008-01-18 05:04 pm (UTC)More makeup and masks for everyone! It's color! It's play! It's charade! It's plumage! It's art!
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Date: 2008-01-18 05:14 pm (UTC)men and their preferences can fuck off
Date: 2008-01-18 05:23 pm (UTC)After I´ve put it on all the cops and all the guns and written GLAMROCK WILL NEVER DIE on the walls in lipstick, that is. Possibly tried to stun the guns with extra strength hairspray and glued eyelashes on all the dogs.
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Date: 2008-01-18 05:31 pm (UTC)This was after modest prom dress modeling (LOL MORMONS), and as you can see, I hated the way I looked. When they put the makeup on me and I looked at myself in the mirror, I laughed really hard and then left the bathroom. But even more frightening are the girls in
Frightening, right? I just think to myself "how long would it take to take this off?" It's so hard taking off heavy makeup, especially eyeliner.
Anyway, I only wore foundation on my first date with my boyfriend, and he still thought I was sexy. Not that there's anything wrong with a little mascara, but with heavy makeup, I always wonder what they look like without the makeup. Hmm.
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Date: 2008-01-18 06:25 pm (UTC)'Femininity', bah: social constraints, like 'masculinity', to distract us from da revolution.
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Date: 2008-01-18 06:39 pm (UTC)It would be nice to see an experiment where a girl has a close-up photo of her taken absolutely 100% barefaced. I've had guys tell me that they hate makeup, yet they like the way I look with a seemingly even skintone as opposed to my normally blotchy, somewhat blemishy one. It's a little bit hypocritical.
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Date: 2008-01-18 07:53 pm (UTC)der.
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Date: 2008-01-18 07:53 pm (UTC)We went to the beach once (along with some white girls and other Japanese girls, all who didn't wear much make up) and all of her make up was washed off by the water. And she had beautiful, beautiful freckles!
When we commented on how beautiful her freckles were, she told us that freckles are considered ugly in Japan.
I'm so with you on the suppin.
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Date: 2008-01-18 07:59 pm (UTC)Also, once a Puerto Rican guy and I talked about our different notions of beauty. He admitted that the women in our neighborhood were pretty, but said they were lazy - they didn't bother to dress up and present themselves. On the contrary, Puerto Rican girls present themselves. I thought that was a pretty important distinction and one that goes back to the distinction between authenticity and theatricality.
In this case, both you and I are on the side of authenticity (which bothers me). It really is a privileged stance that is easy for beautiful 20 year old American Apparel models to adopt, and kinda rough on everyone else.
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Date: 2008-01-18 08:42 pm (UTC)"I want to break the Williamsburg "Grover Phenomenon."
The "Grover Phenomenon" describes the dating/couple situation in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
All the guys here look like Grover. For those who don't remember, Grover is a Muppet from Sesame Street, and he was funny looking, scruffy, hairy, and skinny but with a pot-belly.
All the girls here, on the other hand, look like part-time models who read Heidegger. When you see the girls here, you think of the song, "The Most Beautiful Girl in the Room" from Flight of the Conchords.
It's weird to see Grover walking hand in hand with Intellectual Part-Time Model, but on some level it must give every man in the universe hope that he too can land a Intellectual Part-Time Model, despite his funny looks."
that's a prime example of men getting their power from their social achievements and women again mainly getting their "power" from beauty.
PS. All the cool hipsters left Williamsburg ages ago.
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Date: 2008-01-18 08:39 pm (UTC)i just can't relate to women who use it at all.
thank you, Mo-mo :P
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Date: 2008-01-18 09:49 pm (UTC)Different days, different choices!
You can please some of the people some of the time...but if you pay attention, you can generally please yourself, and over time I've come to realize that the confidence one exudes when one does just that is really the thing that attracts ;))
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Date: 2008-01-18 10:15 pm (UTC)Since Sartorialist readers are generally a conservative bunch, the reaction (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17177804&postID=3551239435276732004&isPopup=true) is very mixed, running the gamut from "she looks homeless" and "just another hipster" to "a wonderful blend of youthful and conservative".
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Date: 2008-01-18 10:59 pm (UTC)To me that girl's ensemble is fairly ubiquitous and not very exciting. Cute and endearing on a girlish student, but clownish and sloppy on anyone over 24.
I much prefer this. (http://bp1.blogger.com/_qjpwnPW4c1o/R2kqxKdaHCI/AAAAAAAACu0/eY2raqVg6Rc/s1600-h/Colorist.jpg) It just feels more crisp and coherent.
This guy (http://bp0.blogger.com/_qjpwnPW4c1o/R1vvDLxvpHI/AAAAAAAACrc/Qp0hdsAqeC8/s1600-h/MoryColor.jpg) shows up a lot, and is always dead-on.
And this (http://bp0.blogger.com/_qjpwnPW4c1o/R4spradaHjI/AAAAAAAACy8/aOJpB8BLkPc/s1600-h/redflwr.jpg) however, is utter perfection. Poised and flamboyant. The rumpled collar is just the right touch on an otherwise controlled ensemble. Tailored within an inch of its life. Perfection can take on a freakish quality, sometimes.
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