Bunny bollocks: to chop or not to chop?
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imomusHisae and I are debating whether to get our rabbit Baker's testicles chopped off. He harasses us sexually all day, biting and bruising our feet and ankles, making them sticky with his sperm. We love him, but the sekuhara is hard to deal with. Our attitude veers between amusement and annoyance. Is this the real him? Should we intervene? Would we still love Baker after an operation that changed his personality? And what are the bigger issues at stake, issues about the nature of identity, animal rights, respect and free will? Are there even political dimensions to the question of "to chop or not to chop"?
"Do you wonder why your little bundle of fluff has changed from your cute little cuddly bun to a moody, growly, sometimes aggressive bunny?" asks pet advice website BoingOnline. "Hormones I'm afraid!! Your bunny is now a teenager. This is the time when you might want to think about desexing. Desexing your bunny is something to really think about if you want to get to know your bunny's real personality."
It sounds so simple. Your baby bunny has his "real personality". Along comes a gremlin in the form of the extraneous "hormones" that appear as sexual maturity approaches. Solution: chop off the intruder in the form of your bunny's cojones. All will return to normal.
Being me, of course, I'm immediately suspicious. This notion of Baker's "real personality" being his childhood one (but which childhood personality? He seemed to go through dozens of distinct stages) strikes me as inherently rockist. What is normal? What is my real identity, and does it include my sexuality -- with all its chemicals, its Barneyesque testicular shenanigans -- or not? I'm sure my parents must have noticed how I, like Baker, became growly and aggressive when I passed through puberty. How would I feel (and how would I speak and sing?) if they'd desexed me to get "the real me" back? (It would have extended my lifespan, apparently.)
Being me -- being growly, hormonal, macho and sexed, that is -- I'm suspicious of the advice I've been reading on vet-sponsored websites. Naturally, these sites don't go into questions of what identity and free will actually are. But I can't help wondering whether the financial incentive for vets to recommend surgical procedures (bunny desexing can net them $250 a pop) skews their opinion a bit. What happens in the parallel world where the government obliges vets to perform bunny desexing free of charge on request? In that world, do we get vet-sponsored websites telling us how unnecessary the procedure is? It's not impossible. Glass half empty, glass half full.
I'm also worried by the model of sexuality proposed by these (mostly American) websites. Does it reflect cultural prejudices about the impact of gender and sexuality on identity? Americans love to think of gender as something they can rise above, as they love to rise above all determinisms and limitations. They love to see sexuality as a sort of rucksack they could leave at the cloakroom when they don't want to be burdened by it. They hate to think these things might limit their opportunity to be anything they choose to be. Does this anti-deterministic (but also anti-sexual) ideology come through even on American vet-pet websites?
Behind this debate lies the huge question of whether we have free will, of course, and what role our genes and hormones play in it. The experts at AllExperts at least exhibit some doubt. "It's hard to say if [your rabbit's] personality will change [after surgery]" they opine. "He will be calmer, and less sexually motivated. But how much of that is what you perceive as his "personality" is hard to say. Most of the rabbits I've known have not had major personality changes after neutering, though a very few have." It's a bit contradictory. How can being "less sexually motivated" fail to be a personality change?
Behind the reassuring tone of the vets looms a lot that disturbs us, a lot we still haven't worked out. Is it right to make a "surgical intervention" to alter an organism -- or a nation? Will it all go as smoothly as the experts assume? Is it really so simple to cut out the bad stuff and just leave the good stuff? Aren't good and bad -- aren't sexuality and personality, like culture and identity -- all tangled up in a warp and woof too complex for even the best surgeon's knife?
When we think of this stuff we can't help thinking of scary demagogues and cautionary tales. We think of "Chemical Sarkozy", with his recent proposal of chemical castration -- compulsory hormonal treatment -- for sex offenders. The unsettling scientist Craig Venter -- the Dr Frankenstein of the gentech age -- is there too, as is poor post-Ludovico Alex from A Clockwork Orange, Big Brother-loving Winston Smith from the end of 1984, and a crowd of moronic "epsilons" from Brave New World. Must our rabbit now become a character from these scary dystopian novels? Is carrying him to the vet the equivalent of sending in the Fahrenheit 451 fire engines?
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Asked "Why do you burn books?", the fireman Montag in Truffault's film is as clear as our pet experts: Books "make people unhappy. Books disturb people, they make them antisocial". The world would be a much better place if books -- and bollocks -- were removed in one clean, surgical sweep. Wouldn't it?
"Do you wonder why your little bundle of fluff has changed from your cute little cuddly bun to a moody, growly, sometimes aggressive bunny?" asks pet advice website BoingOnline. "Hormones I'm afraid!! Your bunny is now a teenager. This is the time when you might want to think about desexing. Desexing your bunny is something to really think about if you want to get to know your bunny's real personality."
It sounds so simple. Your baby bunny has his "real personality". Along comes a gremlin in the form of the extraneous "hormones" that appear as sexual maturity approaches. Solution: chop off the intruder in the form of your bunny's cojones. All will return to normal.
Being me, of course, I'm immediately suspicious. This notion of Baker's "real personality" being his childhood one (but which childhood personality? He seemed to go through dozens of distinct stages) strikes me as inherently rockist. What is normal? What is my real identity, and does it include my sexuality -- with all its chemicals, its Barneyesque testicular shenanigans -- or not? I'm sure my parents must have noticed how I, like Baker, became growly and aggressive when I passed through puberty. How would I feel (and how would I speak and sing?) if they'd desexed me to get "the real me" back? (It would have extended my lifespan, apparently.)
Being me -- being growly, hormonal, macho and sexed, that is -- I'm suspicious of the advice I've been reading on vet-sponsored websites. Naturally, these sites don't go into questions of what identity and free will actually are. But I can't help wondering whether the financial incentive for vets to recommend surgical procedures (bunny desexing can net them $250 a pop) skews their opinion a bit. What happens in the parallel world where the government obliges vets to perform bunny desexing free of charge on request? In that world, do we get vet-sponsored websites telling us how unnecessary the procedure is? It's not impossible. Glass half empty, glass half full.
I'm also worried by the model of sexuality proposed by these (mostly American) websites. Does it reflect cultural prejudices about the impact of gender and sexuality on identity? Americans love to think of gender as something they can rise above, as they love to rise above all determinisms and limitations. They love to see sexuality as a sort of rucksack they could leave at the cloakroom when they don't want to be burdened by it. They hate to think these things might limit their opportunity to be anything they choose to be. Does this anti-deterministic (but also anti-sexual) ideology come through even on American vet-pet websites?
Behind this debate lies the huge question of whether we have free will, of course, and what role our genes and hormones play in it. The experts at AllExperts at least exhibit some doubt. "It's hard to say if [your rabbit's] personality will change [after surgery]" they opine. "He will be calmer, and less sexually motivated. But how much of that is what you perceive as his "personality" is hard to say. Most of the rabbits I've known have not had major personality changes after neutering, though a very few have." It's a bit contradictory. How can being "less sexually motivated" fail to be a personality change?
Behind the reassuring tone of the vets looms a lot that disturbs us, a lot we still haven't worked out. Is it right to make a "surgical intervention" to alter an organism -- or a nation? Will it all go as smoothly as the experts assume? Is it really so simple to cut out the bad stuff and just leave the good stuff? Aren't good and bad -- aren't sexuality and personality, like culture and identity -- all tangled up in a warp and woof too complex for even the best surgeon's knife?
When we think of this stuff we can't help thinking of scary demagogues and cautionary tales. We think of "Chemical Sarkozy", with his recent proposal of chemical castration -- compulsory hormonal treatment -- for sex offenders. The unsettling scientist Craig Venter -- the Dr Frankenstein of the gentech age -- is there too, as is poor post-Ludovico Alex from A Clockwork Orange, Big Brother-loving Winston Smith from the end of 1984, and a crowd of moronic "epsilons" from Brave New World. Must our rabbit now become a character from these scary dystopian novels? Is carrying him to the vet the equivalent of sending in the Fahrenheit 451 fire engines?
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Asked "Why do you burn books?", the fireman Montag in Truffault's film is as clear as our pet experts: Books "make people unhappy. Books disturb people, they make them antisocial". The world would be a much better place if books -- and bollocks -- were removed in one clean, surgical sweep. Wouldn't it?
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(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 05:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 05:58 pm (UTC)I must say that I'm always on the side of "don't amputate body parts" except in cases of horrible disease.
Let the bollocks stay and jiggle as they may!
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 06:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 06:17 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 06:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 06:22 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 06:22 pm (UTC)But only if wombs went at the same time.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 06:25 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 06:25 pm (UTC)2 more questions
Date: 2007-09-09 06:33 pm (UTC)So maybe the true question is : should we have domestic pets at all, if we are not willing to let them go out, meet others, have sex ?
Francoise
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 06:56 pm (UTC)Personally, If I knew that I could never have sex again due to circumstances, I'd rather live as an eunuch to rid myself of sexual desire.
Other option.
Date: 2007-09-09 07:05 pm (UTC)More precisely, it ends here : http://www.cuniculture.info/Docs/Recettes/recette1-72.htm
Difficult, of course, when you are attached to the animal.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 07:06 pm (UTC)Because Baker's role is that of a pet, it's important to do whatever will keep him and yourself happy and content with him as a pet. Unfortunately, some un-neutered adult male mammals don't make very good pets.
Our dog is neutered, and he is anything but sexless; he enjoys a physical relationship with his toy bear, and we appreciate not having to wash it all the time. No Boston terrier in our area dares to turn its back on him, and he has attempted to romance a Great Dane's ankle. However, he doesn't have an overwhelming desire to break out of the house to pursue a dog in heat miles away, which helps him not get hit by cars.
Your best bet in making a decision is corresponding with people who have their own pet rabbits (they probably agonized over this decision too, and those with un-fixed bunnies can tell you how they cope), talking to Baker's vet, and remembering that a pet's testicles don't reflect on your own.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 07:10 pm (UTC)and where humans are concerned, sexual desire is a great thing, a creative force...extinguish that, and there's not as much energy to go around.
imagine momus with no balls? oh god. ;_;
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 07:11 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 07:24 pm (UTC)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSsJ19sy3JI
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 07:29 pm (UTC)Also, you're a girl, it's different. You don't experience sexual desire like guys do. Trust me, a life without sex for a guy with a normal sex drive wouldnt be nice at all.
wait wait wait
Date: 2007-09-09 07:47 pm (UTC)I AIM TO PLEASE. WAIT, NO I DON´T
Date: 2007-09-09 07:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 08:00 pm (UTC)ANYHOW...
if the rabbit wants to relieve itself, it can be encouraged to use some more congenial object than human legs and feet. porcupines use sticks.
but as for rabbits, and any animals, really, i just have an instinct against neutering them. i find it offensive.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 08:03 pm (UTC)Re: wait wait wait
Date: 2007-09-09 08:04 pm (UTC)HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?
Date: 2007-09-09 08:10 pm (UTC)GIRLS ON FILM
Date: 2007-09-09 08:18 pm (UTC)ah there is nothing I like more than a good old fashioned rickrolling duel.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-09 08:19 pm (UTC)I´M RICK JAMES, BITCH?