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"I like it when you write about food, fashion or porn," commented [livejournal.com profile] obelia after entries on South Korean porn stats and a Hokkaido "pudding factory". So here, for the girls, is another porn entry.

A friend wrote to me yesterday drawing my attention to a Japanese porn video series called MOMUSTYLE. There's even a film billed as Airi Momose in MOMUSTYLE, which is funny because it sounds like "Hairy Momus in MOMUSTYLE" (a tape I'm sure very few people would buy).



Now, I'm not sure why this series is called MOMUSTYLE -- perhaps it's meant to evoke teen girlband Morning Musume, since the blurb promises "more beautiful and younger girls than ever!!" But while, on purely textual criteria, Airi Momose in MOMUSTYLE may veer close to me, texturally this porn is not at all my cup of hot milk. For a start, there's no mosaic censorship sprinkling pixel-dust over the genitals, and I find porn with mosaics much sexier than porn without. Because taboo creates desire in a teasing dialectic; as I was thinking to myself yesterday, sitting opposite some stranger's vagina in the sauna, it's clothes that create nakedness.

"Thanks for the amusing URL, but I'm more of a Fairy Doll man myself," I wrote back to my friend.

Fairy Doll is a porn series from a Japanese company called Smiley. It's been running for five years and has reached its 40th tape (not including the gansha compilations, sequences of facial comeshots as disappointingly exciting, perhaps, as a penalty shoot-out or a diet of straight ice cream for a week -- after a while the patterns created by the spattering sperm become gestural paintings, pearly white on a flesh-coloured canvas).



The Fairy Doll formula is now pretty well established. It seems to be made by one person with quite a clear aesthetic mission. The girls have to be very young and pure-looking. They have to dress in a style that veers between Gothic Lolita, Maid Cafe (Hisae thinks the Smiley company may actually run maid cafes, or be affiliated with such a chain), Ballet Dancer and, well, Fairy. They have to submit to sex with a certain air of theatrical puzzlement and passivity, occasionally to feign a tear, and sometimes to have their necks gently squeezed (whether to increase their sexual pleasure or darken the scene with a shadow of cruelty isn't quite clear, but this company also retails a line of shibari rope play disks).

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If Hisae is right that these girls are recruited from a Maid Cafe, they've been pre-selected to appeal to the kind of shy, nerdy boys who frequent such places. Their softness, ultra-femininity and compliance appeals to men who find some corollary, in the girls' exaggerated and slightly ingenue and naive shyness, to their own. This, then, is soft (and lacy) porn for soft (and lacy) people, and I suppose that's what brings it closer than MOMUSTYLE to Momus style.

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Date: 2007-04-21 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hook-and-eyelet.livejournal.com
Momus, this post was wonderful-hot. Thanks!

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Date: 2007-04-21 09:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
(From what I recall) Japanese porn is full of tears, wincing, snivelling and whimpering. Is it really so unpleasant, or does the thought that it might be somehow enhance things? Isn't that a kind of forbidden-ness by the back door (no, not that back door). US porn is increasingly action-orientated, extremes in body type or Jackass-style stunts. UK porn hasn't found a language at all, but tends towards self-conscious humour, while European is like a commercial battle ground, where the Slavs are still the Slaves. In all, it tends to circumnavigate straight mens' deepest fears - that women don't really want them and that, as a social-sexual group, they spend so much time objectifying because they remain the least objectified. If the actresses are not being paid to holler 'yes, yes' through this one-way mirror, they're being paid to feign a 'told you so' kind of rape (from what I recall).

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Date: 2007-04-21 09:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't know what the remedy is. Maybe somewhere in an old Jah Wobble interview: "There's a man in every woman and a woman in every man. And a man usually falls in love with the man in a woman, and a woman usually falls in love with the woman in a man."

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Date: 2007-04-21 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me-vs-gutenberg.livejournal.com
So, soft and lacy people like their sex with a spot of cruelty (at the hand of the man, tobe suffered by the woman,) then? I find myself at least alienated, if not appalled, by a sexuality that involves little girls crying. I want laughter in the bedroom, and an active female partner! What you describe are scenes of female degradation, sex as a revenge fantasy. I find it morbid and terribly un-sexy.
Which is not to say you are not to enjoy what an abundant marketplace has to offer; but please do not assume that all sensitive, shy men are into female submission. I find that it does me injustice, personally.

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Date: 2007-04-21 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trickseybird.livejournal.com
PEANUT BUTTER.
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
I think I´ll stick to the fanfiction and the occasional molestation of Iggy Pop, thanks.
DAVID SYLVIAN IS ALL THE WOMAN I NEED. (in porn, not RL obv)

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Date: 2007-04-21 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
I like you.

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Date: 2007-04-21 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaipfeiffer.livejournal.com
seconded. grown up, active, outgoing women for shy men like me, please! (lucky me, found such a splendid lady - wouldn't know where to find them in porn, though)

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Date: 2007-04-21 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Are people asking "What kind of porn do you like?" when they meet each other now?

a sexuality that involves little girls crying.

Date: 2007-04-21 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niyabinghi.livejournal.com
And as years go by, how much more demand will there be for younger and younger and younger girls? What will be drawing line, age 11? 9? 7? 5?

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Date: 2007-04-21 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vertigoranger.livejournal.com
I dunno, but i've been in constant fear that they might be lately.

What kind of porn do you like?

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Date: 2007-04-21 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzberlin.livejournal.com
<< I want laughter in the bedroom, and an active female partner! What you describe are scenes of female degradation, sex as a revenge fantasy. I find it morbid and terribly un-sexy >>

We will always have degradation of women in porn, until and unless we can get women to want sex as much as men do. The degradation happens because men are frustrated by the power women hold over them, sexually. No one is too blame for this, except possible those women who consciously exploit and perpetuate this power imbalance

When I've written before that such difficult porn would drop away if women wanted more sex, I've been told I was "anti-woman" or some such, because I suggest that we would have fewer problems if women did things differently. But the way I see it, if we want to try to eliminate degrading porn, we can either try to get men to want less (hetero, here) sex, or try to get women to want more. I think sex is mostly good so I don't think we should discourage men sexually, I think we should look at why women (U.S., hetero) don't want as much sex as their partners, and figure out if we can do anything about that

Then there is the question of why some (many?) powerful women fantasize about degradation, domination, and rape. We are up in arms when men degrade women in their fantasy/porn, but what to say when women degrade themselves, in similar ways, in their own fantasies?

It's confusing. Even if we could encourage women past the cultural barriers to having more sex, I think there is still a biological difference to sex-seeking in men and women. So I'm not sure we will ever get to a point where we have sexual parity, and the negative porn drops away

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Date: 2007-04-21 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A female fantasy of domination and force (it may be a politically tricky area but in many surveys I've seen - by decent enough sources - it does feature) is probably tied in with the same cultural barriers/shame - they remain 'innocent' by having something done to them. Also, like being a 'sub' in a sub-dom relationship (of whichever gender) - there is an actual feeling of being desired. It may be control desire or power desire as much as body desire, but some people are cool with that, or even need it, in consenting circumstances.

Right

Date: 2007-04-21 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzberlin.livejournal.com
What I've read about the female desire to be dominated in sexual fantasy is that these women tend to have rather passive partners, and also tend to be the boss in the workplace. They just get tired of telling other people what to do all the time, and the fantasy is a release from that

The book I read (sorry, have forgotten the title) was by an M.D. who was primarily working with women that weren't happy with their fantasies and desires for domination. In one case, by helping the woman help her partner IRL assert himself more, she was able to stop being so much the boss in the partnership, and this changed her sexual desire for domination, gradually

In the past, I'd say about 10% of my sexual fantasies involved my being degraded. But then I decided to start acting on my fantasies; I got tired of having fantasies I never acted on. As I got closer to a sexual situation in which I was to be degraded (I was trying to set something up), I realized, gosh, I don't really want to be degraded in real life. I don't really want this scenario to happen

And then there were no more degradation fantasies in my imagination

It's weird, you read something like "The Erotic Core" and you realize how nearly impossible it is to change one's sexual desires. Yet by approaching something in my fantasy life, and realizing I didn't want it, my erotic core changed just a little bit

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Date: 2007-04-21 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-ranger.livejournal.com
I prefer to look up paraphilias on wikipedia. Oh that sexy, weird text!

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Date: 2007-04-21 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alibee.livejournal.com
KELLY OSBORNE?

LOL JAPAN

Date: 2007-04-21 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
I've watched quite a few gay Japanese pornos, and there's always at least one guy who sounds and looks as if he's being tortured. It's even worse with straight Japanese porn; pretty much every girl looks like shes in agony. I find it really unappealing. Its the same with hentai, I've never seen hentai where the girl getting fucked looks like shes enjoying it.

Something the Japanese and the gay community have in common is a preoccupation with types. Japanese porno is all about types and fetishes, its highly specialized. "oh but we have fetish videos here in the west!" I hear you cry. Thus, I present you this:

Image

Im not entirely sure what fetish this DVD is specializing in, and I'm not sure I want to know. All I do know is, we need to nuke Japan. Again.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-04-21 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ducttapesnakes.livejournal.com
Kelly Osbourn?
Weird....

Re: LOL JAPAN

Date: 2007-04-21 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It's for paw fetishists!

"Suddenly the cat started grooming itself in front of me..."

CAT MACROS FETISHISTS??

Date: 2007-04-21 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
No, no we don´t, since it also produced this:

Image

Re: Right

Date: 2007-04-21 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Same here. Tried some things, didn't like some of them. Trying them changes you because you've eternalized the wish. Yeah, sexualities are a nest for other desires with no home (paternal/maternal/child instincts, work issues, religious even..)

Re: LOL JAPAN

Date: 2007-04-21 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Paw-nography! She's a Purr-fect 10.
"Debbie Does The Trashcan?"
"Deep Flap"?

Re: LOL JAPAN

Date: 2007-04-21 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unicornburger.livejournal.com
So that's what happened when my cat was missing for ten days...
Looks just like the one below the pink characters.

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Date: 2007-04-21 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beketaten.livejournal.com
But the thing is, some women like it!

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Date: 2007-04-21 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harveyjames.livejournal.com
I like those soft lacy japanese pornos too, but I also have nightmares where I'm killing rooms full of naked children, so something tells me it might not be such a sexually healthy red-blooded pursuit.

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Date: 2007-04-21 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me-vs-gutenberg.livejournal.com
I congratulate you on that! I'm inbetween splendid ladies, myself. Hopefully.
From: [identity profile] me-vs-gutenberg.livejournal.com
I think the real question is, where does the "youthful aesthetic" (I heard that euphemism somewhere) end, and where does pedophilia begin? What's okay, what's not and how do we deal with the things that aren't okay? The current hysteria surrounding the topic is harmful to to society at large and does nothing to protect children.
The way I see it, this stuff is morbid and sad, but as long as it involves only consenting adults, it's not a crime, and I think that is where we should draw the line: consent and full age.

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Date: 2007-04-21 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me-vs-gutenberg.livejournal.com
I have no problem with people enjoying things that I find unpleasant or unhealthy. But when someone propagates these things, especially in such a way that they inderictly pass judgment over other people's characters, I am free to criticize.

Re: Right

Date: 2007-04-21 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] me-vs-gutenberg.livejournal.com
I suppose it's safe to assume that a good deal of those rather unpleasant sexual phantasies are the result of a certain fear, perhaps self-loathing, that can be overcome by exploring and getting to know one's sexuality. On the other hand it seems to me that overcompensation through self-denigration must be terrifically detrimental to one's happiness. It sounds as though you deserve praise for undertaking the former and avoiding the latter.

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Date: 2007-04-22 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beketaten.livejournal.com
I can't imagine looking at porn with pixels o_O

Re: Right

Date: 2007-04-22 01:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, kinkiness doesn't have to be pathology. It can simply be sex which involves all the faculties - mind and body, imagination and intellect, 'heart' and 'soul' - create sexual theatre around the bond, rather than try to find it in an orgasm. That's a lot of pressure to put on an orgasm!

Why would someone actually want to be submissive? Well, according to the literature:

Luxury of giving up responsibility
Feeling small/childlike/helpless again
Enjoy pain/fear endorphins
Enjoy bringing out someone else's imagination
Enjoy the strength of feeling and focus
Reenact issues to deal with them and control them

Niche markets

Date: 2007-04-22 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pay-option07.livejournal.com
I'm always taken aback by the cultural acceptance of it as well as how much Kelly is like her mother.
I like the idea of making sex part of everything Japanese.
Bonzai!

little girls crying

Date: 2007-04-22 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzberlin.livejournal.com
I say if an adolescent (> 13) wants to have sex with someone three times their age, who are we to stop them?

But why aren't they working, if they're that mature? If kids are old enough to have sex, they're old enough to be out of school and contributing to the GNP. If they want to be adult, let them be adult. But the coddling stops there

(I don't have kids, I would probably think much differently if I did, no doubt I would feel much more protective and indulgent)

I had a boyfriend once

Date: 2007-04-22 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzberlin.livejournal.com
He took one look at my paper porn and said "boy do you have bad taste in smut"

I wanted to say "WAIT A SEC!! This is LEFTOVER porn, discards from a previous boyfriend! This is not MY porn!"

But his comment inspired me to start my own small collection, I mean, I have a reputation to think about : )

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Date: 2007-04-22 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cerulicante.livejournal.com
Fairy Dolls does well because it satisfies the 3 main pillars of porn:

1. Girls who don't look worn out...and that don't talk too much.
2. The ability to turn off the video when done
3. The guy that doesn't jabber through the entire 15 minute scene.

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Date: 2007-04-22 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I've held back from the moral arguments on this, because I think de gustibus sexualis non est disputandum -- there's no disupting sexual tastes, especially not the sexual tastes of others. I think we can assume that the performers in these videos are over the legal age and that any tears we see are theatrical tears.

But I do want to say something about the enactment of (slight) cruelty in these films. First of all, I think there's a non-dialectical tendency for people to say that makes these "cruel" films. just as there's a tendency for some people to say Gilbert and George's work is "immoral", when in fact what they should say is what G+G say themselves: that there's a moral dimension in their work.

This is where it gets dialectical. If you believe that nakedness is something created by clothes (as I say in the entry), you have to say also that cruelty and kindness are mutually productive, just as Christian virtue and the temptation to sin are mutually productive. The productiveness of binaries means that without sin there can be no virtue, without clothes no nakedness, and without the ability to be cruel no kindness.

I'd say we experience this in real life. A man is usually larger and more physically powerful than a woman, and sex (as Andrea Dworkin pointed out) can be read as an act of territorial aggression, possession. Now, aware of a potential to be cruel or merely dominant in the act of love, a man holds back from this and is kind -- it's the presence of the potential threat which makes that kindness mean something. It's a dialectic.

And it's a dialectic that has to be present in the theatre of porn. There has to be a reference to "the cruelty-kindness dimension" -- it has to be theatrically encoded, because it's a signifying binary, one of the binaries productive of the meaning of the sexual act. A "difference that makes a difference". I personally value porn -- as I value art -- which encodes this theatrically in a slightly ambivalent way. In other words, which admits it's there, but doesn't go too far towards either end of the spectrum -- pure kindness or pure cruelty. A theatricality somewhere in the middle (a hint of menace and of divided interests, overcome by mutual satisfaction and the common interest of common orgasm) is a much better indicator of the dialectical (in other words, mutually productive) nature of kindness and cruelty.

I think it's interesting that it's largely been women in this thread who've responded positively to the presence of that kindness/cruelty dimension in this "soft and lacy porn", and men who've been arguing that it's unacceptable. This may be because men have the luxury of sublimating (somewhat guiltily) their potential for dominance-cruelty, but women must remain aware of it for pretty obvious reasons, and some choose to tame and control it by enjoying (limited amounts of) it. Also, men want (unrealisticaly, and un-dialectically) to detach their kindness from their cruelty (projecting their own cruelty, with some disgust, onto other men), whereas women might well be better at seeing these things operating at the same time in the same partner -- mutually-defining binary opposites in a "cruelty-kindness dimension" which demands theatrical (cosplay rather than real) expression in the sexual act.

beauty is in the eye?

Date: 2007-04-22 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niddrie-edge.livejournal.com
Are you appreciating porn as some artform? Some theatre?
Or are you in need of sexual stimulation?
Are you having your cake and eating it?

/me off for a dust down with adaware.

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Date: 2007-04-22 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niddrie-edge.livejournal.com
I forgot to say that was a very stimulating comment.I am off to fondle my binaries.

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Date: 2007-04-23 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z111.livejournal.com
The Japanese love SM and humiliation in their porn and that does lead to a lot of tears, sniveling, whimpering, etc. Though I don't know if that would describe all Japanese porn.

I don't know if I'd get so philosophical about it. Then again, I adore Japanese SM porn, with blotted out naughty bits and all. In fact, it's the only porn I really enjoy.

I don't think our tastes in such things really necessarily reveal anything terribly deep.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-04-23 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z111.livejournal.com
Oh for fuck's sake -- literally....people's fantasies are their own and they rarely have a rhyme or reason to them. What turns me on may not be what turns you on, but I resent your attempts to pathologize me and others like me.

I like my sex and my porn dirty, filthy and nasty. My sex is mixed with death. If yours is laughter and light, good on you, but leave the armchair psychoanalysis out of it.

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Date: 2007-04-23 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterkoninkje.livejournal.com
I must say, I also like it when you write about porn. It's such a hidden topic, it's nice to see people discuss it, analyse it.

Personally I'm not a fan of the kind of cruelty you get in japanese porn, either from an aesthetic or from a personal perspective. It's one thing to have submissive women (and say of that what you will), but it's something different to go for the unmoving doll you tend to find in Japan. I can understand why some folks would like timid or even frightened women (just as I can understand why people would like not to admit to understanding it), but the petrified terror or "sleeping" girls speaks a bit too much of childhood abuse and violent voyeurism. Albeit from an american perspective, but it still pings all the wrong sensors.

wow.

Date: 2007-04-24 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohfuckyou.livejournal.com
after all that, i require a plentiful dose of blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com

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