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San Francisco art noise duo Matmos sound a bit like Momus. Their name, for a start, begins with an M, has another M in the middle, has two vowels, one of which is an O, and ends with an S.

Some of their ideas sound a bit like mine too. Their 2003 album The Civil War, for instance, used medieval instruments like crumhorns and sackbuts, just like the records of my "Analog Baroque" period. ("The sheer audacity of taking computers to Camelot!" marvelled Blender.) And talking of Analog Baroque, Matmos also have a penchant for the Momusesque hobby of genre-splicing. I have "folktronica", "cabaret concrete" and "absurdist torch", they have "conceptual musique concrete", "Arabic ragtime psychedelia", "porn funk" and "Wagnerian slapstick". My 1999 release "Stars Forever" was an album of portraits. And the new album from Matmos (The Rose Has Teeth In The Mouth Of A Beast, due May 9th) is... an album of portraits.

The new Matmos is "a series of sound portraits of a pantheon of people that they admire," the Matador press release tells us. "Matmos read their biographies and re-enacted events from their lives, making songs out of the sounds of the re-enactments. They gathered objects that were important to these people, made noises with them, and built melodies out of the noises."

You can hear an mp3 of Track 1 off the album, Roses and Teeth for Ludwig Wittgenstein, on the Matador Records site.

If Matmos' conceptual framework smacks of Momus' ideas done four or five years late, their noises sound like the Momus records of the future. Because it's in the realm of sound design that Matmos outstrip me. Here are some descriptions, from various sources, of a few of their sounds:

* "We went to a working farm in Sebastopol, California and recorded the sound of cows eating, and of cow manure being shovelled onto roses. Back at the studio, we recorded the sound of fresh roses swinging through the air, and built rhythms out of the sound of dried roses being scraped, shaken, and crushed. In order to create the crispier percussive noises, Erika Clowes loaned us her wisdom teeth (extracted and dried) and we clicked and grinded them against each other. We also sampled noises made by the teeth of cows, goats, sharks, and beavers." (Matmos, in their Press Release.)

* The sound of semen, burning flesh, and the embalmed reproductive tract of a cow are all featured. (Matador Press Release)

* They also took items important to the songs' subjects and built melodies out of the noises these items made. Such objects include snails, semen, burning flesh, and "bovine reproductive track" (we're not making this up, we swear!). (Pitchfork.)

* The Darby Crash song is dark electronics made out of the sound of Drew Daniel crying out in pain getting burned by the Germs’ Don Bolles, combined with the noise of M.C. Schmidt shaving his head. (Matador Press Release)

* The Patricia Highsmith song was made as a collaboration with her favorite animal, the snail (they aimed a laser at a light sensitive theremin, and then got snails to crawl across the path of the laser, triggering changes in the theremin's pitch). (Matador Press Release)

* "We have made music out of the preserved uterus of a cow." (Martin Schmidt, interviewed in The Guardian, explaining why Drew Daniel was throwing up.)

* Also featured: the sounds of liposuction, a five-gallon bucket of oatmeal and the pages of a Bible turning. (Pascal Wyse in The Guardian.)

* Martin begins by creating a Tibetan temple sound with his teaset, ticking it with percussion brushes or rubbing edges together. Later there are bubbling fluids, cattle, dancefloor grooves, aircraft and some spoken-word recordings. (The Guardian)

* It seems just as appropriate to shout down the trombone or impersonate a helicopter as it does to play a pure note. (The Guardian)

* "All your records sound like insects eating stuff". (Martin's brother, who lives deep in the woods.)

A couple more examples of Matmos catching up with Momus: I've been contributing to music board I Love Music since 2001, and for the last year or two Drew Daniel has been there too. I'm performing at the Whitney Museum in New York, and on May 5th, 2006 at 7pm Matmos perform at the museum too.

They're no stranger to art museums, of course. In 2003 they did a 17-day live performance at the Yerba Buena Museum of Contemporary Art in San Francisco. "In the mornings Drew will be interviewing museum goers and making songs about them, and in the afternoon Martin will host guest performers and improvisers," their blog reported.

Curator Betty Nguyen takes up the story: "They moved their entire living room studio there, equipped with bear skin rug, human skeleton, grand piano, laptop and some synths. They made audio portraits for a few weeks for the first person that walked thru the gallery doors... I remember watching Martin rubbing a brown paper bag with a microphone while making an "audio portrait" for this old man... One night they performed with video and I remember it was footage of a grand piano being dragged and mic-ed from the back of a pick up truck. And there was this cool imagery like the Adams Family, Thing, of Martin's hand plucking the inside of the piano's strings while he was playing it live at the same time, and not really knowing if this was live video feed or not... They did this at the Compound, Martin slapping Drew's bare ass and a video of the same action in some library set up. Drinking from a pop can and then crunching it and sampling it live into a looped beat at the Exploratorium. Good stuff."

Oh, and one last example of Matmos' egregious copycatism: the duo even had the nerve to tour with Bjork after I did.
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ho ho ho. that's sooo gayy

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Date: 2006-04-25 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tassellrealm.livejournal.com
Matmos?

What a rubbish-y name.

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Date: 2006-04-25 10:26 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
well, martin and drew are a couple, and you're not a couple :) this said, this new album really is a marvellous experience. i met them for the second time, and they moreover happen to be the among the nicest and and smartest human beings i had the chance to encounter. have you ever had the chance to meet them? (odot)

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Date: 2006-04-25 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I chat to Drew online, and I'll meet them at the Whitney next week fo' sho.

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Date: 2006-04-25 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kubia.livejournal.com
And what is most revealing: they are even caught on camera (http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4481&Itemid=1) quoting their role model.

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Date: 2006-04-25 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Ah, thanks for that, a great documentary (http://brainwashed.com/common/video/mov/matmos-eye_060127.mov). They're so refreshingly articulate, funny, and interesting! More ideas in 40 minutes than most music artists pack into a whole career...

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Date: 2006-04-25 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nato-dakke.livejournal.com
tom waits lives in sebastopol. my friend's family ran a montessori preschool there where he sent his daughter. there are also any number of good places to get a burrito in sebastopol. the end.

Trainspotter here...

Date: 2006-04-25 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think you've mistaken a few points in the Guardian article. Matmos have made music with Oatmeal (not on this record, though, on 'Drug Opera [The Live album]' with Liposuction (not here, but of course on 'A chance to cut...'/'California Rhinoplasty') and Drew was throwing up due to food poisoning, I believe, not the presence of cow Uterus...

Then again, maybe he'd eaten the cow uterus. Who knows in London restaurants these days?

Björkmus? ...Momjörk? hmmmm...

Date: 2006-04-25 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biseinen.livejournal.com
What are the chances of a Momus/Björk collaboration? Something I've been daydreaming about for the longest time. Although, to me, it seems an inevitable symbiosis, it just doesn't seem to ever happen. Even if it is a sort of EP like the one penned for Kahimi Karie "Journey to the center of me" (a personal Momus top 5). After all "she's basically the Bjork of Japan" (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/00-02/02.shtml) in the eyes of some internet commentariat.
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Date: 2006-04-25 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightspore.livejournal.com
The reference you probably know is to Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations:

"A new born child has no teeth." "A goose has no teeth." "A rose has no teeth." This last at any rate--one would like to say--is obviously true! It is even surer that a goose has none. --And yet it is none so clear. For where should a rose's teeth have been? The goose has none in its jaw. And neither, of course, has it any in its wings; but no one means that when he says it has no teeth. --Why, suppose one were to say: the cow chews its food and then dungs the rose with it, so the rose has teeth in the mouth of a beast. This would not be absurd, because one has no notion in advance where to look for teeth in a rose.

This is one of many places where LW is showing that things that seem just obviously true require context to understand; that nothing is true without context. The first sentences all sound parallel to each other, but they're not, and the idea that a rose has no teeth is not a model sentence (as it might seem) for the idea that newborns or geese don't. There are no model sentences. As is usual in LW, the place where the interlocutor (what Blake calls the idiot questioner) ceases talking and Wittgenstein answers, in fuller voice, is after the dash: "--And yet..."

It's not quite that the rose actually does have teeth in the mouth of the beast; it's that only of things with mouths does the question of teeth properly come up. (That's why we don't say of a goose that it doesn't have teeth in its wings.) And if it's made to come up elsewhere, then all bets are off.

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Date: 2006-05-06 02:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hello

Hello yourself.

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Date: 2006-04-25 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spoombung.livejournal.com
Well the acts that distinguish themselves as ‘artists’ (usually self-proclaimed anyway) like Matmos, always feel the need to explain where their source material is from. They like to imbue the source of the original material (the building blocks) with some sort of social significance (an event, a narrative, etc) to add weight to their enterprise and they labour these points over and over again. Even better if you can add a taboo element or a ‘squirm’ factor - like Marc Quinn talking about making art from his daughter’s umbilical cord. If the material comes with a story - so much the better for the artist.

Being a modern artist these days seems to involve writing a thesis to authorize and authenticate every action, every gesture and every mark. You've got to read before you look or listen, it seems.

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Date: 2006-04-25 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tassellrealm.livejournal.com
Hmm yeah.

The track neither thrills nor enlightens.

If it were able to perform either of those prerequesets, it wouldn't need the augmentary 15 tons of bumpf and pamphletry.

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Date: 2006-04-25 02:39 pm (UTC)
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They are supersweet fellows. I was lucky enough to be the last musical portrait for their Work Work Work installment. Based on Drew's interview they came up with a set of sounds, which I was able to particpate in. Before lunch I left with a cd with the track.

I'd be curious to hear what the three of you could come up with.

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Date: 2006-04-25 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mini-snape.livejournal.com
Well, at least neither of them is a pirate. Right?

Wired

Date: 2006-04-25 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hihi, even one more thing in common: You both contribute to Wired. They feature on the CD in the November 2004 issue. Spoooky.

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Date: 2006-04-25 03:37 pm (UTC)
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Maybe they'll work backwards, copy Momus copying Beck, then copy Momus copying Pet Shop Boys..

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Date: 2006-04-25 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I hear the new Pet Shop Boys album is called Appropriationism (http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=561534479&vv=400) and consists entirely of Momus cover versions.

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Date: 2006-04-25 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cap-scaleman.livejournal.com
What do you think about Negativland (http://www.negativland.com/) then? They are a very curious american band. They made a collage out of U2's "I still haven't found what I am looking for (http://www.negativland.com/audio/acapella.mp3)" twice (http://www.negativland.com/audio/editradio.mp3). But you probably knew that already.

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Date: 2006-04-25 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Personally, since you ask, I don't like that school of novelty sampling. Andy Votel (http://imomus.livejournal.com/111642.html) does it that way too. The KLF did it. It's gimmicky, not fresh. It's part of a dead-end editing culture where things get faster and faster, more and more "interesting", more and more "selected", until they get boring. It engages the wrong part of the brain, the verbal part. It quacks, but with words. It lacks the textural subtleties of The Books, or Holger Hiller (mentioned by Tassellrealm up there as a Matmos precursor, correctly I think).

There has to be some love of your basic materials, some aesthetic criteria to guide your choices. I don't like "sampling as satire". And, in your terms, there isn't enough "failed design" in Negativland. It's too punchy, it hits lots of boring sitting duck targets (U2, radio DJs)...

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Date: 2006-04-25 06:18 pm (UTC)
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hey! where did you find my glasses?

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Date: 2006-04-25 04:42 pm (UTC)
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Hoy, some of us are skiving to read your blog you know, you could warn us if our work PC screens are about to fill up with naked guys riding each other!

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Date: 2006-04-25 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Hey, for some of us playing naked horsey is work! We call it "promotion". It'll be the norm for Casual Fridays in 5 - 10 years. Just read some Pat Kane (http://theplayethic.typepad.com/play_journal/)!

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Date: 2006-04-25 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Have to say, though, there's probably nothing as wonderful as this (http://www.famousfor15mb.com/artists/andy_lewis/andy_lewis-trouble_trouble.mov) on the new Matmos album.

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Date: 2006-04-25 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostchic007.livejournal.com
"imitation is the greatest flattery"

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Date: 2006-04-25 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cityramica.livejournal.com
i really like Matmos...partially because they're SF locals and I see them around quite frequently [they teach at the SF Art Institute and shop at my old record store]. I really don't think there's a terribly amount of overlap with you beyond their name and tendency toward rampant experimentation.....I must say that when I was DJing in NYC I played "A Chance to Cut is a Chance to Cure" quite a bit on my radio programme. that was sort of the apex or their releases, or at least the most listenable, in my eyes [ears]. sickly cute and um....slurpy!?

(you, on the other hand, i was tempted to seek out and book on my show [you were also in NYC at the time] though I had not spoken to you before at that point.....i just wanted to meet you)

that typo as to the Bjork tour rustled up in me a mightly "hah!"

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Date: 2006-04-25 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
A mightly "hah" sounds mightly mwah, Mischa!

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Date: 2006-04-25 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bricology.livejournal.com
"San Francisco art noise duo Matmos sound a bit like Momus. Their name, for a start, begins with an M, has another M in the middle, has two vowels, one of which is an O, and ends with an S..."

Surely you jest. Jean-Claude Forest published "Barbarella" in 1962, introducing "Matmos" to the Francophonic world, and it entered the consciousness of the English-speaking world when Barbarella was released in theaters in 1968. It's a great name for a band, given the associations of the word.

Yes, I'm aware of the origins of your pseudonym, and the Greeks predate Forest by a couple of millennia. However, the name of the Greek god of mockery was hardly well-known today, so 10 points to you for appropriation of an earlier term, and an additional 10 for it being more literary.

But I think you're stretching it to say that Matmos (the musical duo) is very derivative of you in name or music. I also think it's a bit naff to toot your own horn so vigorously by making such a claim, but that's just my opinion.

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Date: 2006-04-25 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] csn.livejournal.com
I am pretty sure he is being facetious, per usual.

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the world is a silly place

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Date: 2006-04-25 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] csn.livejournal.com
I saw Matmos at the YBCA the other night. They were performing with the Kroso Quartet and this other guy I was unfamiliar with, but I was kind of let down. I guess I like their old sound better, but it all seemed kind of blown up and overhyped without giving me the same feelings of satisfaction that a track like "last delicious cigarette" gave me. I am curious what you think of Aphex Twin. To me, he is a complete genius.

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Date: 2006-04-25 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desant012.livejournal.com
Good stuff. But who cares. Music criticism is getting boring ... analyzing art and literature is beyond painful. Why the hell do we have to rip apart and analyze our art like it's a science experiment? Not referring to Matmos' creativity, but Momus' commentary.

I thought the one thing that was supposed to be beyond the physical (oh, how romantic!) was our imagination and creativity, yet the big trend for the past 50 or so years is to destroy everything ever made through excessive analysis (yes, it's in the origin of the word).

Criticism has to die. At least, in the form we have now.

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Date: 2006-04-26 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
For me, the main attraction of today's entry is the poetry of all those descriptions of the sounds Matmos use. They make a sort of poetry which, in some way, might even be more interesting than the sounds themselves. For instance:

the sounds of liposuction
a five-gallon bucket of oatmeal
and the pages of a Bible turning

That's a great poem!

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Did someone say liposuction?

Date: 2006-04-26 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzberlin.livejournal.com
<< If Matmos' conceptual framework smacks of Momus' ideas done four or five years late, their noises sound like the Momus records of the future.>>

I am impressed by our dear imomus's humility!

I look forward to hearing the Momus noises of the future!

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Date: 2006-04-26 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Another Momus/Matmos connection:
I'm making an appearance on/in the new Matmos album...and the new Momus album (obvious to atleast you Nick if not anyone else reading).
love,
John Talaga/ Fashion Flesh
www.fashionflesh.com
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