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On 5th February I'm playing a concert at Doll Dress in Osaka, described by Digiki as "some kind of weird Goth boutique with a cosplay / Goth theme event on Sunday, I've been there and it was strangely fun".



Flyers for past shows at Doll Dress look very Gothic Lolita (or gosurori), so I'll try and choose my most frilly, chilly and darkly romantic songs to please the girls. Here are the details:

Fleurir Rose Vol. 9
2006/02/05 Sunday
Open 16:00 / Start 17:00

Venue: Doll Dress / Gallery Brocante
4-24 Yamazaki-Cho Kita-ku, Osaka
Live: Momus, Harukiya
DJs: Chou Chou Noir (Velvet Moon),Tetsuya Matsukawa (Hattrick)
Advance ticket: 1500yen / door: 2000yen
Drinks & foods are free (except alcoholic)

And for more frilly thrills...:
Film showing (2 short films)
Photo session contest, making up booth, future-teller booth
Gothic-Lolita, Drag Queen

Momus concert starts at 20:00 (45 minutes)
Party End: 21:00
Shop Close: 23:00 (Bar time)

http://www.hattrick-records.com/live.html
http://www.brocante.jp/

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Date: 2006-01-21 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] d-g-m.livejournal.com
Likewise. Isn't this the exact difference you are illustrating when you define "Fashion Goth" as an aside from just "Goth"? I thought the insertion of the word "Fashion" was used to demonstrate the emancipation of the cultural signifiers (Music, Literature. etc).
And is it right to actually assert that there is such a difference when this event in itself clearly shows that "Gothic Lolita" do identify with important cultural signifiers?
If I remember correctly- your article clearly listed the different kinds of Goth and the different cultural signifiers associated with them. Fetish Goth, Suicide Girls etc. The only difference with the Wikipedia article that you have provided is that it claims there is no cultural signifiers which "Fashion Goth" depends on. Since there is a "Boutique" devoted to this fashion and since they obviously provide an outlet of culture I would say that this assertion is false.
Your argument basically reads "Since something is not defined it can't be put into a category that is already defined".

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Date: 2006-01-21 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Actually, there's quite a long section in the original Fashion Goth (http://www.livejournal.com/users/imomus/128677.html) entry about how Gothic Lolitas are not Goths:

"Japanese people tend not to be fashion goths, or into kitsch. Even the black lace Gothic Lolitas in Japan are something else, really. They're human mille feuille cakes, not goths. I think it's because Christianity has never meant anything in Japan..."

This all gets rather theological and pedantic, but as far as definitions go, not only am I and Wikipedia on the same page, I was quite clear about my definitions from the start.

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Date: 2006-01-21 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Also, I'd like to note in passing that the Wiki article says the Gothic Lolita trend began in Japan in 1998. Now, I was in Japan twice that year, and documented this as it began, calling the look decora-chan. Anyone who was reading my website back then will know that this style influenced my least gothy album ever, "The Little Red Songbook" (http://www.imomus.com/littlered.html):

"In late rainy season rain I walked around Harajuku, Tokyo's youth and style district, videoing the Decora-chan girls, who dress like Marie Antoinette as a cyberpunk milkmaid, mixing petticoats with transparent plastics."

Gothic Lolita is Decora's stylistic close cousin, a black-and-white version.

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Date: 2006-01-21 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petit-paradis.livejournal.com
western goths are 1980s, the gothic lolita's are 1880s.

"I watch the sailors on the bus a little lustfully.........."

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