Love jam

Mar. 12th, 2005 10:41 am
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Pop and porn have always been on a continuum with each other; sex, after all, is a major and perfectly legitimate element in most pop culture. The I Love Music forum currently has a thread going entitled Top Howevermany Transparent Sex Barely-Even-Euphemisms in Pop Music in case you need reminding of that fact. One of the many tragedies of the current Michael Jackson trial in California is the fact that, however it turns out, Michael will be culturally emasculated; he will never again be able to hiss and yelp out the sexual innuendos that once powered his music. Considering that he's a true genius of pop, and that the true genius of pop is sex, this will truly be a loss to the world, and a victory only for the new puritans -- the same people who reacted so violently to his sister Janet's "wardrobe malfunction" and made it part of their pre-election "culture wars" last year.



In Japan, a culture much less hung up about sex than the US, the continuum between porno and pop flows with much less turbulence. Culture stores like Book Off, Tsutaya and Village Vanguard shelve their stock with a smooth, unanxious transition from the "pure" to the "impure", the sexless to the sexy. Although there have recently been concerns in Japan about the too-easy availability of porn products to children, it's generally accepted that sex is part of the normal commercial landscape and doesn't do much harm. I'd say that, just as America's attitude has a lot to do with Christianity, Japan's is the result of their combination of a detachment religion (Buddhism) with a fertility and nature religion (Shinto).

Let's jam a bit further on this riff. When Avex recording artist Ai Otsuka released her Love Jam album last year, it was accompanied by a major poster campaign showing Ai's faced spattered suggestively with globs of jam. We don't need to call a semiologist to decode the sexual meaning of the Love Jam campaign, but just in case we missed it, porn site 100% Douga has Photoshopped the fig leaf (or should we say "the jam jar"?) of metaphor away entirely, reminding us that the fruit from which we make jam is nothing more than an attractive, glossy distribution system cunningly devised by strawberry plants to spread their DNA. They have quite a bit to teach us about pop marketing, those strawberries.

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Date: 2005-03-12 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Well, let's not rush to judgement, shall we? None of us know yet whether, or to what extent, Jackson is, as you put it, a "baby-fucker". I can imagine people saying of Oscar Wilde, a century ago, "The only problem is that Wilde is a sodomite, not just a seller or sex and himself..." If we burn every major figure in the history of the West who was drawn to children it's a big pyre, and at the end we exchange a heap of ash for the Greek philosophers, Lewis Carroll, almost the entire Catholic church, and a big chunk of rock 'n' roll.

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Date: 2005-03-12 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
(And I see your latest blog entry raves about the Beats... hmm, Ginsberg, Burroughs etc often spotted in Tangier, no? Tangier known for... what, exactly? Must read Joe Orton's diary again...)

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Date: 2005-03-12 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vireoibis.livejournal.com
So because i like Burroughs (an understatement), who fucked teenage boys in Tangiers, i must approve of Jackson's virtual kidnapping of much younger kids for sex? Because Wilde was queer, he's the same thing as a pedophile? The problem here isn't the gender of the partners, it's the ability -- and yes, the legal ability -- to actually say "yes." 12 year olds do not.
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Date: 2005-03-12 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 33mhz.livejournal.com
With gusto.

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Date: 2005-03-12 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgazz.livejournal.com
Are you comparing homosexuality to paedophilia?

Wilde could have run off to America and been sheltered by his rich friends, but decided instead to go to court and bring discussion of homosexuality out into the open - the real taboo not being the act, but the idea of an emotional relationship.

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Date: 2005-03-12 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 33mhz.livejournal.com
Are you comparing homosexuality to paedophilia?

They've long been intertwined in the western imagination. It was only the late 1800s/early 1900s German push towards a medicalized conception of homosexuality that people really started disentangling them.

I don't know about America, but following Wilde's conviction a bunch of wealthy Englishmen suddenly disappeared under cover of night into France.

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Date: 2005-03-12 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porandojin.livejournal.com
"decided instead to go to court and bring discussion of homosexuality out into the open - the real taboo not being the act, but the idea of an emotional relationship."

what??? all the trial he was refusing any homosexuality of his acts ... he was saying some 'poetic' stuff about an artist needing young companion ... The only reason he went to court was probaly lord Douglas wanted him to ...

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Date: 2005-03-12 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vireoibis.livejournal.com
Drawn to children and fucking children are two different things. Everyone's fantasy life is certainly their own business. Actions, however, are not. The testimony and evidence coming out of that trial, plus the fact that he's paid off at least one other family, leads me to believe he is a pedophile. This is what upsets people like myself who otherwise could not care less what he or anyone else does in the confines of his own home.
His sister (who, by the way, also believes her brother is a freak) and her boob was much ado about nothing. But the reaction was completely expected; far too many people equate nudity with obscenity, and a woman's breasts with only the gods know what, judging by the reaction. Apparently boobs are only for sexual partners and not for babies in these people's minds, and the beauty of nudity in the arts completely out of their understanding.
But i digress . . . all over the place.

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Date: 2005-03-12 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I'd be interested in your take on the activities / proclivities of the Beats in Tangier.

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Date: 2005-03-12 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vireoibis.livejournal.com
Burroughs is quite open about his activities in Tangiers, and elsewhere. Kiki is quite a large part of his life there. Kiki was also older, not forced. How ever i might think of this relationship, it is still not the equivalent of pedophila. To my knowledge, neither Ginsberg nor Burroughs were "chicken queens."
You are not complaining about the actions of Jackson, i am. You are complaining about the reaction of everyone else to the charges, as if he is merely being "persecuted" for homosexuality, and that's not the case.
Yes, i admit i listen to too much Court TV.

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Date: 2005-03-12 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I just downloaded Martin Bashir's "Living With Michael Jackson" documentary, the one that's sparked off his current, probably terminal, spate of troubles. And while Bashir was challenging Jackson on his facial surgery, his sleeping habits, etc, I found him considerably more repulsive than Jackson, just as I found Kenn Starr more repulsive than Clinton. I kept thinking of Jackson as a trans-sexual being grilled about his operations. And I thought of all the pleasure and excitement his talent has brought to millions, there in the scales against the pain he may have brought to a few pre-adolescents (who seem more micro-managed by their parents than Jackson ever was by his father, and who seem more pained by his disappearance from their lives than anything he actually did).

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Date: 2005-03-12 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vireoibis.livejournal.com
i've not seen, nor do i want to see, this docu.
There are vids of the Ranch and the lengths gone to to keep this particular family there. . . the "kidnapping" is not a lightly used term.
No doubt the parents of these boys are culpable as well. That doesn't change the fact that Jackson fed them booze, showed them porn, and had sex with them.
i don't care what his career was or is. He has had sex with children, comprende'? He's a predator who likely was allowed to become this sick because everyone thought he was so great (yesmen are as dangerous as their owners).
Now, if people choose to no longer buy his material, i'm sorry.

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