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In yesterday's entry I argued that the current Republican party sees itself -- and is trying to encourage America to see itself -- as The Other in a grotesque development from identity politics, which I described as 'narcissistic'. Someone posted the following comment:

You certainly love to use heteronormative references and structure in your arguments. You label blacks, gays and women as narcissistic when they are struggling for issues that are deeply personal to them. Why don't you shed your white male privilege for long enough to imagine yourself being the target of a national campaign to label you as "other" and to codify this status into law, and then imagine that this issue is validated, not only by the ones who really hate you, but also by the ones struggling to find a narrative that doesn't require any sacrifices of them. Then imagine what kind of mischief you can create when you refuse to conform to the heteronormative script so well developed by our media and start writing your own script with no clear ending...

Of course I abhor injustice and prejudice, and I'm sympathetic to the motives behind identity politics. I like the idea that we can re-write our social scripts and renegotiate our social roles. But there are big problems with identity politics.

Identity politics has been linked with deconstruction, because both are concerned with renegotiation of the 'repressed' terms of semantic binaries. In feminism, for instance, the 'repressed term' in the male/female binary is detached from its social semantics and renegotiated.



Now, society is syntagmatic, not paradigmatic -- that is, it works like a sentence rather than a list of nouns, or like a family rather than a barracks. Social power is the result of social elements working with elements unlike themselves. The basis of social power is the promise to work on behalf of others. Those who have social power are those who manage to convince many types of people with different interests that they will represent everybody's interests, not just their own. In other words, social power tends to go to those who at least pose as The Universal rather than The Other. Identity politics, though, is based on single-issues, and on self-identity as The Other. Historically it's a product of 'The Me Generation' of the 1970s. It consists in a narcissistic withdrawal from the social syntagm, the 'sentence' of society, and an alignment with the 'paradigm' of other similar elements. 'People don't like me, so I want to be with people like me.'

The obvious limitation of this strategy is that, although it can allow for a renegotiation of one's social value -- the third phase in deconstruction is re-insertion of the renegotiated binary back into the social sentence, just as the third phase in feminism is a fully-integrated superwoman -- the narcissism involved actually diminishes the social power of the actor. When I become The Other and act on my own behalf, according to the narrow interests of my category, it's hard to claim to act on behalf of a broader 'we' again. The best I can hope for is that my narcissism will be indulged with celebratory (and patronising) acknowledgements, symbolic reparations, token awards, policed language.

The fact is, one cannot renegotiate a social role based only on 'What we'll do for people like ourselves'. One can only renegotiate it based on 'What we'll do for everyone'. To some extent identity politics has succeeded in this 're-inscription'. But the problem for groups who self-identify as The Other is the same as the problem the US faces in Iraq: legitimacy. You need to persuade people whose interests are not your own that you have their interests at heart too, and to do that you have to pose as The Universal, not The Other.



There is nothing outside of society. Those who try to break off from it altogether wallow in disillusionment and neglect. Narcissism is an attempt to substitute with pumped-up self-love the love which can only come from others. Narcissism can also become a vicious circle. Trying to escape the stigma of our social roles, we become a parody of them, 'stigma on steroids'. It's fine to 'go on strike' to renegotiate one's social value, but one shouldn't turn a strike into unemployment. One must go back to work eventually within the social syntagm, not stay in one's paradigm with isolated social elements like oneself. Isolation and narcissism are the way to become disempowered, not empowered.

There are two further problems with identity politics. The first is that as social groups withdraw one by one from the mainstream to renegotiate their value based on single identity-related issues, everyone is encouraged to see themselves as a minority, even the powerful. The effect is a narcissized and fragmented society of single-interest groups. And at that point, it seems clear that the richest and most powerful single interest group will win. It's a truly terrible scenario when the conservative white male sees himself as an embattled minority, a victim, and starts basing his actions only on his own narcissistic interests. This is what has happened with the US right. The powerful have taken on the mantle of the ultimate victims, and their power seems to them to be 'empowerment'. They act for no-one but themselves, and if they speak for anyone else, it's a half-hearted lie. This appalling situation is a perversion of identity politics (call it 'steroids on stigma' rather than 'stigma on steroids'), but it's a logical progression from it; the final stage, the death rattle.



There's another problem with identity politics. Let's call it 'the azza problem'. It's not just society itself that's fragmented, we also have increasingly fragmented personal identities. Do I react to something as a white man, as a person with a visual handicap, as a Marxist, as an exile, as a musician, as a non-motorist, as a person in a cross-racial relationship, as a poor person with no savings, as a Japan-lover? I have many possible hats, and many possible -- and possibly conflicting -- interests. How many clubs and organisations do I have to join? How many political parties campaigning on single issues can I vote for? What does 'identity' mean if I can switch roles and alliances so quickly? The closer I get to a single-issue, identity-based group, the more I feel I'm neglecting all the other identities within myself.

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohnefuehlen.livejournal.com
Wondered if you'd seen this table (http://www.alexgrantz.com/~agrantz/pics/2004election_by_iq.jpg), and what you thought.

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I did indeed see that table. I thought:

1. Bush voters are stupid.
2. Bush voters are poor.
3. Bush's policies benefit the rich above all.
4. Bush bamboozles his electoral base.
5. Marx was right: it's not enough to be a class-in-itself, you must become a class-for-itself.

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Of course, you might then say 'What's the difference between becoming a class-for-itself and becoming a gender-for-itself or a race-for-itself?' And that's a hard question to answer. I can only offer tentative answers:

* It's my personal culture to think in Marxist terms about hegemony, and to see class struggle as the motor of history and the broad church within which all other power struggles can be accommodated.
* I see identity politics as having, to some extent, undermined Marxist class struggle by fragmenting and domesticating the critique of power and replacing Marxism's coalition of interests (intellectuals, workers, trade unionists, social democratic liberals, anti-imperialists, etc) and theoretical rigour with small-scale skirmishes based in narcissism.
* If the aim of Marxism is the economic and structural transformation of an entire society, the aim of Identity politics all too often seems to be nothing more than symbolic acknowledgement, reparations and apologies.

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Date: 2004-11-09 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I said yesterday that Identity Politics is 'an Oedipal struggle to get free of The Father'. The term of course comes from Freud, whose definition of mental health was the ability to love and to work. So we have to ask, does the Oedipal struggle help us to love and to work? Or is it just an expression of useless rage, a quest for 'moronic authenticity'?

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Date: 2004-11-09 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Another thought just occurred, and I think this is an important one, relating to the thing the other day about Guilt and Shame cultures. Identity politics is an attempt to re-aportion guilt. One refuses to feel guilty any more about being gay, for instance, instead proclaiming that the authorities and the mainstream of society have victimised gay people and should, themselves, feel guilty for doing so. But this only works if the authorities or majority opinion is vaguely liberal, as it was in the 70s -- if, on other words, it's still claiming to have things like human rights at heart, and to be representing everyone in that Universalist Enlightenment spirit. But with the current administration, we can no longer take that for granted. Torture, extra-judicial arrest and detainment, pre-emptive war... it all suggests that rights take a back seat to interests, and that interests are very narrowly defined. I could have said 'vested interests', and noted that the word 'vested' means something close to the word 'situated'. Strange as it is to say, the current US administration is run by a minority group who have put their single-issue interests ahead of all others, and are militant about it. They refuse to feel guilty, they harp on their victimhood (9/11), and they demand empowerment. It's a ghastly parody of identity politics, a parody which means that the actual appeals of actual minority groups will fall on deaf ears. It is both the culmination and the end of identity politics.
From: (Anonymous)
Or do you protest to much? Sure, I may be caught in a naive spiral of identity political thinking, but it is only because as a queer in the American South, much of my culture wants to deny my existence as a phenomenon altogether, and then only addressing me in terms of other when they have to. Right now, we are engaged in a struggle just to inform others that WE EXIST AT ALL AMONG YOU. I mean, I have had to deal with John Rockers all of my life, and also those have asked me to deny myself through coercion and force. I am not kidding. I was taken out of class in elementary school and given special indoctrination in how to act like the other kids

"Do-so the dolphin says the boys like to play rough and girls like to play nice. You're a boy, do so as the other boys"

It would be lovely if there could be a revival of New-Deal like socialism here in the south that helped pull us out of the Depression, and I have always advocated such. Unfortunately, these damn Republican yankees keep moving to the suburbs around Atlanta and have made a pact with the local Klan and Baptist ministers. I'm trying to make a living, here and it just keeps getting harder.

I walked into the inverview wearing my normal skirtsuit and described by experience working for the poor in Macon with Legal Services. I did not refer to my gender status by name, but when I get caught up in talking shop, my voice drops, and I may even adopt some of the mannerisms that would make a woman "assertive" and a man "agressive". I left thinking the interview went really well. A couple of weeks later, I got a letter from the firm: "Dear Mr. Roberts" it began. I ripped it to shreds.

For American marxist thought, read Herbert Marcuse. He knew thirty years ago that americans will exchange their rights in return for enough money to afford the bass-boat.

I see my identity politics less as a desire to move the mainstream toward me but simply as a way to survive in an increasingly hostile environment. Things are so complicated now, and I can never truly count on my identity being anonymous. No matter how well I look or pass someone somewhere will be able to clock me. And no matter how well I get my legal identity in order, something from my past will always be there to mock me.


(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-09 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hahawhat.livejournal.com
I want to point out that identity politics aren't always fighting for the rights of the Other, and many times they are fighting for the Universal. I would say, for instance, that queer theory, or at least the branches I personally am most interested in, is not really at all about "equal rights," but instead the destruction of stifling gender roles that we are all, universally are oppressed and smothered by, many times consciously. The mainstream may not recognize this as the case, but it is certainly true - we all suffer when men cannot weep and women are constantly warbling.

Your talk of the Other also brought this up in my mind... Feminism and queer theory are completely entangled to me. The issues they are tackling are products of a flawed archetype, born of a framework that does not reflect reality but rather power. In my utopia, we are all "free to be you and me," but I am painfully reminded of Durkheim's theories on a Society of Saints, and anomie. A lack of social norms and boundaries is an impossibility, and what I am asking for when I call for people to unlearn what they "know" about gender is for them to float in an endless sea of possibilities, where nobody is wrong. I am essentially fighting to eliminate the Other, and this directly contradicts what I believe about society.

I suppose the shortest rebuttal to this is that it is not the end result but the struggle that is worth it, so we at least get as far towards our goal that we don't constitutionalize discrimination, as we did here in America in 11 states in the past month. This still doesn't satisfy me, or assure me of my purpose. Maybe all I am am, indeed, looking for is an apology.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-09 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
There's a lot in there, and a lot I accept. But I want to focus on this:

Your talk of the Other also brought this up in my mind... Feminism and queer theory are completely entangled to me.

Do you accept that the current Republicanism is also tied to feminist and queer theory? I know it sounds odd at first, but reading accounts of how Bush and Rove bonded when they first met, it struck me that it was a hatred of the permissive 60s that they shared. And I think the whole 'Iron John' thing in the 90s is a direct appropriation by men of the women's movement. Men were keen to stop embodying some kind of universal justice and rationality and get in touch with their 'primal man' (and their fathers) the same way women were getting in touch with the sisterhood (and their mothers). The idea of solidarity around the shared values of a microculture with common interests cuts both ways -- conservatives can play that game too. And their 'consciousness raising' sessions produce things like 'The Project For The New American Century'.

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Date: 2004-11-09 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andypop.livejournal.com
the whole 'Iron John' thing in the 90s is a direct appropriation by men of the women's movement

Yes it was...

Men were keen to stop embodying some kind of universal justice and rationality and get in touch with their 'primal man' (and their fathers) the same way women were getting in touch with the sisterhood (and their mothers)

... but that era has passed. Iron John was an attempt to dig up some kind of elemental, 'essential' masculine identity, but many within gender theory/queer theory/feminism since the 80s have been working hard to torpedo the very idea that there is any essential, natural identity for anyone at all. Just as you pointed out recently regarding the supposed authenticity of the recording techniques used on the Devendra Banhart album, the Iron John persona is entirely a modern construct, as are all 'identities'. Your comment about the "third stage" of feminism hardly applies to most feminists (and feminisms) today. Much current feminism could be accurately described as an anti-identity politics.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-10 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Oh, of course. I file the 'Iron John' thing under 'moronic authenticity' and 'fake folk'. It's a construct. The important thing about it is the renunciation of responsibility, the end of the claim to be 'Universal', the lack of interest in the representation of other people's interests rather than just one's own. This is the limitation of postmodern identity politics of all kinds. It's all me, me, me. One becomes The Other in order not to have to think about others.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-10 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andypop.livejournal.com
Yes, point taken.

'moronic authenticity' and 'fake folk'

I quite like these as names for genres. "And here's the latest fake folk record on the Moronic Authenticity label..."

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-09 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kementari2.livejournal.com
"the aim of Identity politics all too often seems to be nothing more than symbolic acknowledgement, reparations and apologies"

This sounds like the "shame culture" you described in your last post, although I doubt you meant it to. What would you say about the relationship between guilt/shame cultures and marxist/identity interest societies?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-09 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uberdionysus.livejournal.com
I don't have much to add because I largely agree with you (and have silently agreed with your last few entries).

I've been railing against the insularity of identity politics even though I agree with the destruction of the binaries and ideals that create the Other.

All I have to say is that I'm glad you're a Marxist because it makes me nervous when I consistently and complete agree with anyone.

(BTW, I like a lot of Marxist thought, but I see stuff like "the class struggle as the motor of history" as worthless metaphysics. I don't think anything is a "motor of history," but there have been a lot of class struggles.)

Anyway, I'm glad you're around to elucidate my thoughts.

iq chart

Date: 2004-11-09 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I just wanted to point out that the IQ chart linked above is pretty widely regarded to be an internet hoax. If the average iq between the 'smartest' and 'dumbest' states really was that wide, I think some of those states would have a hard time running their affairs. Here's another attempt at the chart using IQ averages derived from SAT and ACT scores.

CHART (http://sq.4mg.com/IQpolitics.htm)

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