Peter Principle saves Japan
Nov. 15th, 2009 11:55 amI'm fascinated by ideas, and how they change the lives of the people who come up with them. It seems to be an interest that runs in the family; my mother once had a flirtatious correspondence with Cyril Parkinson, a man made famous by the simple observation that work expands to fill the time allocated for its completion.

The other day I came across another such idea, one I hadn't heard before. It's called The Peter Principle, was first described by Dr Laurence Peter in 1969, and states that in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence. Basically, the principle states that people get rewarded for things they can do well by being promoted to the point at which they're doing something they can't do well. At that point the promotion stops, and there they stay.
There are some corollaries:
1. In time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out his duties.
2. Work is carried out by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence.
3. Anything that works will be used in progressively more challenging applications until it fails.

This has mind-boggling ramifications; it could account for a world in which everyone is basically incompetent, because they've all been promoted to "the position of first failure", and left there to keep failing.
As often happens when you encounter a new idea like this, I immediately started applying the Peter Principle to real world situations. I happened to watch a documentary called Kublai Khan's Lost Fleet, which examines how a Mongol navy with superior weaponry and 4500 ships was destroyed while attempting to invade Japan in August 1281, with the loss of 130,500 Mongol soldiers and sailors.

Now, the main reason was that, just as had happened the last time the Mongols attempted to invade Japan, a kamikaze or "divine wind", in the form of a massive typhoon, whipped up and destroyed the invading navy.
But there were other factors. Kublai Khan promoted a general called Arakhan to lead the naval invasion. He'd distinguished himself in great on-land campaigns, but on the sea he was... all at sea. In terms of the Peter Principle, as a nautical commander Arakhan had reached his "position of first failure". Not just because former successes had led to his promotion to a post he was incompetent for, but because geographically Japan was the Mongol Empire's "position of first failure".

For Arakhan, though, "failure was not an option". He couldn't head home, having failed to crack Japan, and report his failure to Kublai Khan. He'd have been killed. So the biggest single maritime loss of life in the history of the world unfolded off the coast of Takashima, produced by a timely typhoon, samurai bravery, poor boat design (in their impatience the Mongols had seized flat-bottomed river boats to supplement their navy; their indentured Chinese boat-builders had also done deliberately shoddy work on the sea boats)... and the Peter Principle.

The other day I came across another such idea, one I hadn't heard before. It's called The Peter Principle, was first described by Dr Laurence Peter in 1969, and states that in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence. Basically, the principle states that people get rewarded for things they can do well by being promoted to the point at which they're doing something they can't do well. At that point the promotion stops, and there they stay.
There are some corollaries:
1. In time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out his duties.
2. Work is carried out by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence.
3. Anything that works will be used in progressively more challenging applications until it fails.

This has mind-boggling ramifications; it could account for a world in which everyone is basically incompetent, because they've all been promoted to "the position of first failure", and left there to keep failing.
As often happens when you encounter a new idea like this, I immediately started applying the Peter Principle to real world situations. I happened to watch a documentary called Kublai Khan's Lost Fleet, which examines how a Mongol navy with superior weaponry and 4500 ships was destroyed while attempting to invade Japan in August 1281, with the loss of 130,500 Mongol soldiers and sailors.

Now, the main reason was that, just as had happened the last time the Mongols attempted to invade Japan, a kamikaze or "divine wind", in the form of a massive typhoon, whipped up and destroyed the invading navy.
But there were other factors. Kublai Khan promoted a general called Arakhan to lead the naval invasion. He'd distinguished himself in great on-land campaigns, but on the sea he was... all at sea. In terms of the Peter Principle, as a nautical commander Arakhan had reached his "position of first failure". Not just because former successes had led to his promotion to a post he was incompetent for, but because geographically Japan was the Mongol Empire's "position of first failure".

For Arakhan, though, "failure was not an option". He couldn't head home, having failed to crack Japan, and report his failure to Kublai Khan. He'd have been killed. So the biggest single maritime loss of life in the history of the world unfolded off the coast of Takashima, produced by a timely typhoon, samurai bravery, poor boat design (in their impatience the Mongols had seized flat-bottomed river boats to supplement their navy; their indentured Chinese boat-builders had also done deliberately shoddy work on the sea boats)... and the Peter Principle.
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Date: 2009-11-15 02:44 pm (UTC)(edited to add)
The bloody link is messed up. Just copy the whole thing and go.
true but,
Date: 2009-11-15 08:44 pm (UTC)if you listen to most conversations you will hear a lot of talking to make a very small point which could have been worded with only 10% or less of the words/times actually used....
but hows this... we should honor 'crude' more seeing that it fills so much of our lives and culture... no? wouldnt that be the wise thing to do?
then there's the... how much flirting and 'dancing' we do just to bed a mate.... now, if its done well and we're all having fun... those are the most charished moments in our lives no?
so not all crude is created the same...
“Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm” - Sir Winston Churchill
which I bring up because... the success didnt just come from the first try... it come after 90% crude was sloshed through the system...
just some thoughts
Re: true but,
Date: 2009-11-15 10:22 pm (UTC)Re: true but,
Date: 2009-11-16 12:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-15 02:50 pm (UTC)Perhaps there is also a law that culture tends to look more superlative the further away it gets from the present, the more the iceberg is submerged (or melts away).
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Date: 2009-11-15 02:54 pm (UTC)few- comedians can have been...
The faster a pedant types to escape his pedantry the more time is wasted correcting
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Date: 2009-11-15 03:07 pm (UTC)the linked documentary (so far) would fill anyone with a yearning to visit Japan , the scientific investigator reverentially bowing, it appears, to the ancient document, the 'hyper-legitimate' attendants, fishermen, mayors etc; who make me think of a Chesterton article i read today about the decline of the 'hyper-legitimate' peasant in the west, in the form of the shepherd of pastoral idyll: perhaps in Japan the democratic 'Ideal Plumber' lives.
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Date: 2009-11-15 04:15 pm (UTC)Yes, I think this happens because "the grass is greener on the other side"; you get a rosier glow of patriotism the more you stay away from your homeland.
The faster a pedant types to escape his pedantry the more time is wasted correcting
ie "The more hurry, the less speed"!
the scientific investigator reverentially bowing, it appears, to the ancient document
It's the opposite of iconoclasm; rather, the scientist ends up finessing and expanding on the traditional account, while basically confirming it. Would it be any wiser if it were iconoclasm-by-numbers?
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Date: 2009-11-15 03:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-15 06:46 pm (UTC)Theodore Sturgeon seems doomed to be remembered for Sturgeon's Law, but he wrote some great stories besides.
Steohen Parkin
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Date: 2009-11-15 06:47 pm (UTC)Really.
And Stephen.
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Date: 2009-11-15 11:01 pm (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox
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Date: 2009-11-15 07:14 pm (UTC)Cream (http://rogermc.blogs.com/tactical/2009/11/cream-yokohama-is-a-mustsee.html)
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Date: 2009-11-16 12:23 am (UTC)"Sebastian Skeleton and Peter Principle hurried down the street..."
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Date: 2009-11-16 03:25 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 05:45 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 06:35 am (UTC)geographically timely
Date: 2009-11-16 03:14 am (UTC)If Arahkan would have landed all 350,000 bodies it may have been another story.
Mongol timidity, unusual! Maybe Amara!
Amara's law — "We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run".
well done
Date: 2009-11-16 03:44 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 09:17 am (UTC)His being the operative word.
Women just get stuck in jobs they are massively OVER-competent in, and don't get promoted unless they are aggressive and mean, or blonde and easy on the eye.
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Date: 2009-11-16 05:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-11-16 10:14 pm (UTC)