In praise of lying
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As a man who's just published a book with an aphorism in big letters on the front saying "Every lie creates the parallel world in which it's true", I'm obviously interested in reports of British comedian Ricky Gervais' new film The Invention of Lying. According to reviews (like this one by Xan Brooks in The Guardian), Gervais has created a parallel world in which lies don't exist. "It is set in an America that is not so much a bright, shining lie as a blunt, bruising truth," writes Brooks, "inhabited by people who are pathologically honest, both in their opinions of others and about their own crippling lack of self-esteem. A TV advert for Coca-Cola confesses that "it's basically just brown sugar-water". The rival brand shoots back that Pepsi is perfect "for when they don't have Coke"."[Error: unknown template video]
Gervais plays Mark Bellison, the first man to "say something that wasn't". This use of a virtual margin radically transforms his life, making all sorts of things possible that weren't possible before. He gets the girl, persuades his dying mother that dying isn't so bad after all because there's a heaven, and as a result becomes the prophet of a new religion which tells people what they want to hear. Gervais' point is both anti-religious (since religion is clearly the biggest lie of all) yet also pro-lying (since lies make life bearable) -- which makes it pro-religious again, in a sense. Religion is untrue, but legitimately comforting.
From the glosses I've read in reviews so far, it sounds to me as if The Invention of Lying melds the themes of The Misanthrope and Tartuffe, both by the great 17th century French dramatist Moliere. The world of the early part of the film, a world without lying, is very much the world of Alceste, Moliere's "misanthrope", who's unable to lie to spare anyone's feelings, unable to flatter to capture the heart of a lover, and unable to compromise to advance his own career. In the end he decides to retreat from society altogether. The second part of Gervais' film is more Tartuffe-like, and concerns the hypocrisies of religion.
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Since this is a comedy aimed at -- and set in -- America, The Guardian thinks its presentation of religion as a big lie is "rather radical... It's one thing for Gervais to air his atheism on the standup circuit. It's quite another to do so in the guise of a glossy, user-friendly sitcom pitched squarely at the huddled masses in the American multiplex." It's rather a depressing thought that things that were vaguely subversive in 17th France are still considered subversive in 21st century America, but worth remembering that the Alceste character in The Misanthrope may be Moliere's auto-critique (Alceste's honesty gets him tangled up in various lawsuits, which Moliere also was at the time), but also that he may be a parody of the protestant and puritan attitudes which at the time were just beginning to chafe against Catholicism.
You can see how Protestant and Catholic attitudes to lying might be rather different. Just seventeen years before The Misanthrope was produced, for example, a puritan dictator called Cromwell had seized control of England and closed all the theatres, because plays were dangerous "lies". In the Protestant, puritan imagination we have a direct personal relationship with God, and make accounts of our conscience to Him. In the Catholic imagination, there's more room for slack and embellishment. We can do bad things -- everybody does -- then confess them through the mediating machinery of the church, and be absolved. Post-catholic cultures, as a result, go in more for compromise, for private confession, for compassion. They're more forgiving of "hypocrisy", for keeping a split between public and private life. They're less keen on direct confrontation, litigation, condemnation, and moral witch-hunting. There's a reason Arthur Miller did not set The Crucible in France.
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As Ricky Gervais' film shows, lying gives you a particular edge in a world where everyone tells the truth. In a world where everybody lies, clearly the playing field is effectively leveled and the advantage of lying much reduced. Even in that world, though, there might be good reasons to lie. First, lying takes a bit more effort, a bit more ingenuity and a bit more work than telling the truth. And (dis)honest hard work is of course a prime value in itself. Secondly, as Bellison shows when he softens his sick mother's death, lying can be compassionate. We tell people -- and ourselves -- lies every day to soften hard blows and generally be kinder, something puritan truth-telling prigs might do well to consider more important than simply stating harsh, bare facts. Thirdly, as Gervais also points out, lying can be creative, productive, dynamic, transformative. Lying isn't just "saying something that isn't", it's a way to propose a new and different arrangement of things, one which occurred in your imagination rather than in the real world. Once you've proposed it as a lie, you can work on making your lie true.
Next time you hear someone spitting contemptuously the word "Liar!", try this thought experiment. Imagine that same person, in a parallel world, cooing the word in a truly impressed, admiring voice. Now you're in a parallel world where liars are heroes. Look around, try things out. What's it like there? Is it better or worse than the world we know? Or is it exactly the same? Do we perhaps already live there, and just not admit it?
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In praise of lying
Date: 2009-10-02 10:04 am (UTC)Perhaps here he will exhibit some real ideas and some real comedy .
You are the god of satires ,I saw yr book the other day that seems much funnier and far more trenchant.
Re: In praise of lying
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Date: 2009-10-02 11:33 am (UTC)Also this movie looks total guile.
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Date: 2009-10-02 11:43 am (UTC)You can get The Book of Scotlands at Pro QM (http://www.pro-qm.de/). The Book of Jokes isn't out in Europe quite yet.
By the way, I might write in praise of lying from time to time, but I lie a lot less than people I read on my Friends List, like Harvey James (http://harveyjames.livejournal.com/139945.html). I read that post and totally believed it!
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Date: 2009-10-02 11:51 am (UTC)Greetings, Momus. Here, in Argentina we will miss Click Opera too!
¿Is there truth?
Date: 2009-10-02 12:35 pm (UTC)What if truth is the most sofisticated of lies?
A lie is a easy creation. But truth is a very complicated and interesting one that manages to convince others.
That is a theory of truth that goes very well with what mathematicians do. There the liar is the impostor, the wannabe. The one who tells the truth is the one who risks the most, the one who goes beyond, and that lie he invent is very difficult to get to. But also the most beautiful of all.
Re: ¿Is there truth?
Date: 2009-10-02 01:06 pm (UTC)Re: ¿Is there truth?
Date: 2009-10-03 01:35 pm (UTC)That's the point. You say: Liar! to someone who tells an evident vulgar lie.
Those others lies you only recognize them as lies very long time then, when you see that the world it created was a new one.
Lies make baby Jesus cry..
Date: 2009-10-02 12:35 pm (UTC)I think I remember reading somewhere that there is a direct correlation between a child's intelligence and how early the infant begins telling lies.
It does of course make sense, the child is evincing the ability to conceive abstract thought, to realise that they can manipulate the world around them by lying and to perhaps realise that lies can create a more convenient version of the truth.
Re: Lies make baby Jesus cry..
Date: 2009-10-03 02:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-02 12:45 pm (UTC)The quote, which seems to be the "real" tittle of your book, seems to be the theme of many many movies, in particular Good bye Lenin.
But also Truman Show gets a very interestin twist of it. It makes you think about the contest and its relation to truth (and the context of the context). That is why fiction is not lie, because it frames it.
And finally there was a show in Colombia where people where forced to tell the truth in order to win money. It was very radical, but there you could see clrearly why lies are common and necesary (that was the point of Liar, liar also).
Nada más que la verdad:
http://www.psiquiatria.org.co/BancoConocimiento/R/revista_4_psiquiatria_2007_-_articulos_originales_6/revista_4_psiquiatria_2007_-_articulos_originales_6.asp
Alejandro
Ricky does puppets to!
Date: 2009-10-02 02:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-02 03:43 pm (UTC)City of Truth
Date: 2009-10-02 03:49 pm (UTC)http://www.sff.net/People/Jim.Morrow/city.html
In Veritas, the City of Truth, people have been brutally conditioned to always tell the truth, no matter how unnerving (or droll) the truth may be. It will come as no surprise, then, that elevators in Veritas carry the notice THIS ELEVATOR MAINTAINED BY PEOPLE WHO HATE THEIR JOBS. RIDE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Or that cigarette packs say WARNING: THE SURGEON GENERAL'S CRUSADE AGAINST THIS PRODUCT MAY DISTRACT YOU FROM THE MYRIAD WAYS YOUR GOVERNMENT FAILS TO PROTECT YOUR HEALTH.
Jack Sperry leads a rather routine life as a "deconstructionist," destroying "mendacious" old works of art, until his beloved son, Toby, is bitten by a rabbit at Camp Ditch-the-Kids and contracts a rare disease. Jack must now somehow learn to lie if, as he believes, only falsehoods can give Toby enough hope to effect a cure.
Re: City of Truth
Date: 2009-10-02 04:16 pm (UTC)Good, simple, big ideas are the gift that keeps giving, anyway. Everything hinges on how you tell them, in what context, with what incidental details, and to what audience. Morrow was possibly also influenced by Moliere or, for all I know, Aristophanes or Plautus or whoever -- fairly irrelevantly -- "had the idea first". It's an idea which is continuously made necessary by our insistence that "honesty is the best policy".
Re: City of Truth
Date: 2009-10-02 05:08 pm (UTC)Sure, but those (except for "to what audience") are precisely what's similar. Morrow's commercials (for things like the Plymouth Adequate) are quite like Gervais', for example.
Of course, it's quite possible that once you get the idea to explore this trope in a consumerist context, there are only so many ways to go. My message is not "Ricky Gervais is a plagiarist" but rather "read James Morrow!" (Only Begotten Daughter and Towing Jehovah are particularly brilliant.)
milton+orwell=gervais-gravitas
Date: 2009-10-02 05:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-02 07:37 pm (UTC)This is like the 20th time you've written this phrase on a post.
It was already trite the first time.
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Date: 2009-10-02 07:53 pm (UTC)your parallel parallax paradox
Date: 2009-10-02 08:02 pm (UTC)Re: your parallel parallax paradox
Date: 2009-10-02 08:52 pm (UTC)1. (As you point out!) Quantum physics.
2. Post-structuralism: it references literary theory which sees language as productive of reality, not merely reflective of it.
3. Anti-realism: it emphasises formulating what might exist rather than simply describing what does.
4. Relativism: it suggests that lies are truths out of context, and all that's required is to find -- or build -- the alternative context in which these lies are truths.
It's also, I think, a very liberating, very tiny instruction manual. It encourages us not to feel puritan guilt about lying, but instead let our imagination be our guide. And it shows how: by lying productively, and taking our lies seriously, and addressing not the statement, but the surrounding context. Because a lie is a tiny thing, a pinhead, but when you decide to treat it as a truth somewhere else, it suddenly becomes like a torch beam you can swing around to illuminate, detail by detail, a vast and strange new world.
Re: your parallel parallax paradox
Date: 2009-10-02 09:54 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-02 08:14 pm (UTC)I see your point about lying being necessary for the artist in order to tell the truth; however after 8 years of living in a country that has been lied to and where the lies still are being spun by the Republican party ( i.e. the "birthers" thing ) I think that truth is something we desperately need.
Richard
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Date: 2009-10-02 08:25 pm (UTC)1) go carts
2) '80s pornography
...that's all I got so far but I will keep working on it.
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Date: 2009-10-02 08:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-02 09:03 pm (UTC)In a word, what I seek is delay. Delay between the production of an idea and the world's judgement of it. Delay before the moral portcullis falls. The delay necessary for two unrelated ideas to circle each other, growling, and suddenly fuck.
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Date: 2009-10-02 10:14 pm (UTC)But time heals everything I suppose. Even losing you :(
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Date: 2009-10-02 10:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-03 12:12 am (UTC)grey areas
Date: 2009-10-02 08:45 pm (UTC)Often times when I'm seeing a disagreement on this blog (for example), what is happening is, there are two different points of views, both of which actually have space for each other... if only the the people owning them would stop for a moment and realize. (Of course that would make a less exciting debate.)
that is to say, often there is much space for many different truths, and following that line of thought a bit further... room for many different 'lies' to be true... which I think in part is what you were allowing for in this post.
there is a kind of famous saying which I like that goes: "a goal is just a dream with a dealine"
so a lie is just a truth that hasnt happened yeah... ah, I'm no poet.
:( anyways. ...
nice post and heres to dreaming !!!
Re: grey areas
Date: 2009-10-02 08:58 pm (UTC)Yes, we could make lots of these. "Every enemy creates the parallel universe in which she's your friend", and so on.
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