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The September issue of The Wire is out, with a rather gorgeous Donald Milne photo shoot of "the world's most beautiful man", David Sylvian, spashed all over it.

It's actually a pretty good issue, with features on Aki Onda, Vietnamese pop, and a review by one Nick Currie of a Berlin art show -- Allora and Calzadilla's piece at the Temporary Kunsthalle, in which they installed a temporary ceiling halfway up the wall and had a flamenco dancer stamping away invisibly above our heads.

I thought I'd go through the issue today with yesterday's theme of authoritarianism-and-creativity in mind, just as a reminder of how insistently this "false binary" tends to play out when artists are interviewed about their lives.

My art review ends: "My friend, the composer David Woodard, was just whispering something about David Byrne’s Playing The Building piece when the guard came over and told us, rather sharply, to stop talking. “The artists wish visitors to experience an imaginative landscape,” she explained, “and that requires silence in the room.” We complied, but not without experiencing a brief echo of another imaginative landscape: the authoritarian republic administered from this site 20 years ago." Notice how authoritarianism there is attributed not just to the defunct DDR (Allora and Calzadilla's piece specifically references the now-demolished Palast der Republik, the DDR parliament next door), but to the artists themselves.

Later, there's an extensive interview with another friend, Aki Onda. A couple of pages in Onda (whose father was born in Korea, and who travelled a lot when he was a child) says, in a pull quote blown up big on the page: "I really hated Japan. I thought it’s just boring. If that’s the only system you know, you have to obey it, but I knew many other countries".



The brush-with-authority theme continues as Onda describes his schooldays: "I quit kindergarten within four days,” he recalls. “Every morning I cried and refused to go, and my parents gave up. On the first day we had to take a nap and I didn’t want to obey. In elementary school all I did was drawing, I didn’t listen to what the teachers said at all. People just ignored me. But later, Japanese junior high school is really conservative and the rules are strict. I had long hair and I completely ignored them, so they called my parents, who didn’t take it seriously. They told me I should do whatever I believed. So I became famous as the only student who completely ignored the system. I skipped classes. And then I shut my mouth for five years. I didn’t say a word. I was just obsessively reading books. And sometimes I went to university classes. My father was teaching there, so I knew the professors."

Later, though, Onda says that his Cassette Memories project has been an attempt to come to terms with this childhood. So authoritarianism and creativity connect; one dimension can be the irritating grain of sand the oyster turns, in the other, into a pearl.



In the Sylvian feature the rebellion is against God and his representatives on earth: "Undertones of violence ripple through a number of tracks: the first, most significant occurrence coming on the disillusioned opener “Small Metal Gods”, which is a barely veiled allusion to Sylvian’s break with the gurus who have played such a large role in his art and life these past 20 years. Picking out the layered and intercut improvisations of Polwechsel, Fennesz, Nakamura and Otomo, Sylvian sings: “I’ve placed the gods/In a zip-loc bag/I’ve put them in a drawer/ They’ve refused my prayers/For the umpteenth time/ So I’m evening up the score.” The concluding verse goes: “Small metal gods/Cheap souvenirs/You’ve abandoned me for sure/I’m dumping you, my childish things/I’m evening up the score.”

“There’s a sense of liberation in expressing this disillusion, whether it’s true or not,” reveals Sylvian. “It’s the freedom to doubt. I think it’s in the Tibetan Buddhist religion where they have these gatherings, I think even on a daily basis, where they dispute the teachings of the Buddha. They argue against him. That is extremely healthy for any community, for any democracy. Let alone a religious group."

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-11 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
To me, Onda sounds like he's bought into western ideas of Japan because he's spent too much time abroad. His childhood rebellion doesn't sound that remarkable to me even though he's painting it as a case of his spirit being repressed by the Japanese status quo. He speaks of strict schools and "obeying the system" but that's hardly a peculiarity of Japanese society. He's carrying around his stuffy, difficult childhood with him, he's been abroad and listened to too many foreigners say "Yeah, we see Japanese people as robotic drones here in the west. All that bowing, you guys are a bit strange". In reality, we have just as many subtle rules regarding behaviour as the Japanese, it's just that we're not completely aware of them or we take them for granted as "normal" or self-evident. The only part of his story that's remarkable is his 5 year mutism, which is a sign of some of kind of childhood anxiety disorder.

"Small Metal Gods" and Change

Date: 2009-08-12 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jdcasten.livejournal.com
It sounds to me like Onda was resisting the disciple of schools more for their contrast with his parents (who sound open-minded enough), than with western counterparts.

I found when switching from the Syracuse to the Bronx school system in New York, in the first grade, that the stricter discipline of the former actually helped me to learn to read better—one can turn discipline into a tool, rather than be used by it. But I think it usually better to be driven by creativity, than to it.

As to Sylvian’s lyric’s about unanswered prayers, I’ll quote my book “Post-Digital Revelation” where the devil says:

“And you may ask,
‘God, why is there so much suffering?’
And I will reply,
‘Well things could be worse…
Like eternally burning in hell’s fire!’”

BTW: I hope I’m not the only one here who thinks “materialism” need not oppose “spiritualism.”

agree, but...

Date: 2009-08-12 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milky-eyes.livejournal.com
I agree with your point(s)...
But I do have a feeling that Japanese school experience is MUCH more demanding in the soul crunching kind of way then here in US (for example)...
The 100% expectation to conform and give it your all means exactly that, here... even with all our more vague system of rules,,, we have well established poly-cultures and well established ideas of 'fight for your own way of thinking/being' which I know mostly boils down to 'fight for a pre- prescribed way of thinking/being'... but being america its a bit of both worlds... theres is one....

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Date: 2009-08-12 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krskrft.livejournal.com
In reality, we have just as many subtle rules regarding behaviour as the Japanese, it's just that we're not completely aware of them or we take them for granted as "normal" or self-evident.

I would agree that there are aspects of Western behavior that are just as subtle. But "just as many"? Maybe, maybe not. And I wouldn't say that behavior is as rigidly codified, at least not in America, because we immediately take it as a given that people "do things differently in their family" or something like that. The quirks and idiosyncrasies of others--while they can and do often create static--are also more easily shrugged off via a series of standard mental excuses we actively make for those with whom we communicate.

I think the problem is in the portrayal of these behaviors as particularly "robotic," as if the perhaps slightly more organic or fluid behaviors of Westerners aren't just as prescribed in their own ways.

I would say, however, that the Japanese are, by and large, far more comfortable supplicating themselves to authority figures, the elderly, etc. Age and status are such big things there, whereas most Americans assume from the get-go that they can stand in the same room with a rank-superior, and that no deep bow or signal of self-effacing respect is necessary. It's true that we engage in special acts of courtesy with superiors, but none of them require that we take ourselves down a notch in the process.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krskrft.livejournal.com
The military is, of course, a glaring counter-example. But that culture is roughly the same anywhere one goes.

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Date: 2009-08-12 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
he's been abroad and listened to too many foreigners

I don't think it's this. I think, rather, that what's often presented as privilege -- traveling around as a kid, having a foot in many different cultures -- has a downside, which is that it makes it hard to stop yourself endlessly comparing one state to another, one way of life to another. This is exactly what Aki Sasamoto is talking about in her Judgmental Hopper idea. Becoming judgmental is inevitable in these circumstances, but it doesn't make you either popular or happy, so you learn to hide your judgments from people who haven't had your advantages. They, after all, are just going to see you as privileged. They won't have much sympathy.

This also connects to what social psychologists tell us about happiness, and its relationship with "relative deprivation". We tend to be unhappy not because of objective measures of deprivation, but because of our expectations and our knowledge of what other people have. Someone who's traveled enough to see the world (or just seen it on TV) but then been locked down in a local situation again is going to be an unhappy bunny. Ignorance is, in many ways, bliss, especially when it comes to socialisation.

Later in life, of course, things may reverse. I'd wager that Aki is now happier than many of the people he went to school with. He certainly seemed it when I had dinner with him in Brooklyn at the end of May!

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krskrft.livejournal.com
So is a Judgmental Hopper necessarily a privileged person? I can imagine people traveling for any number of reasons (because they can due to privilege, because they're seeking greater relative prosperity, etc). It would seem that, the more privileged a traveler you are, the more you are a part of a master narrative. Which is to say that the foreign culture seen by a privileged person is not the foreign culture seen by an unprivileged person. These two travelers will not judge the same culture, and they will not judge it in the same ways. What do we call the Hoppers who don't come from privilege?

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
What do we call the Hoppers who don't come from privilege?

We usually call them "economic migrants" or "immigrants", no?

(Cue link to my article on The cosmpolitanism of the poor (http://imomus.livejournal.com/217216.html).)

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krskrft.livejournal.com
And don't we usually call Judgmental Hoppers "expats"? That unprivileged travelers are relegated to the white-label, generic categories of "economic migrants" and "immigrants" seems to imply that their experiences are white-label and generic, as well. The Judgmental Hoppers, on the other hand, have exceptional experiences deserving of an exceptional category. Doesn't seem quite right to me.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
do you still have a scottish accent?

you write with one , sometimes :)

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I have enough of a Scottish accent that those with an ear for such things can easily hear it, but not enough that people can't understand what I'm saying!

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gloeden.livejournal.com
It's funny, but in both articles you cite, I see the ongoing rebellion of the man as a the ongoing struggle for the artist.
They are one in the same, indivisible. Can these men create without the constant questioning, the constant rebellion? Not that I'm saying they should.
It's just a throughline I'm seeing. Not unusual, but just noticeable.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 04:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
More self-conscious, male-centered angsty bildungsroman stuff.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 04:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This isn't so much a commentary on (anti)authoritarianism as it is a reinforcement of of the male, rebel artist meme. Ahem, ahem.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 08:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, but as soon as I saw the title of this piece, I knew it was not about creativity and authoritarianism, but about "I have an article in The Wire!"

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
You anons are so binary! Why can't it be both?

triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-vronsky.livejournal.com
Yeah what's with all the binary stuff lately? Why can't it be trinary? That's where all the good stuff is :)

wife, lover, cuckold -- comical

son, father, older brother -- prodigal

son, mother, father -- oedipal

id, ego, superego -- psychological

father, son, holy ghost -- eternal

thesis, antithesis, synthesis -- philosophical

past, present, future -- historical


Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Exactly, not at all, and perhaps!

Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-vronsky.livejournal.com
Why does the edit button disappear? If it hadn't I would have added:

A + B = C -- logical

singularity, star systems, infinities -- cosmological

birth, eros, thanatos -- natural

ship, pirate, sunken treasure -- nautical

seconds, minutes, hours -- chronological

x axis, y axis, z axis -- mathematical

experiment, observation, theory -- empirical

being, existence, reality -- ontological

voodoo, vampires, ghosts -- phantasmagorical

paper lanterns, butterfly wings, momus -- magical


Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
The edit button disappears only if and when a comment has been replied to. If it didn't, people could change what they'd said in a conversation to make subsequent replies look silly or irrelevant or illogical, presumably.

Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's funny, I've been gravitating towards the trinary lately but didn't know what to call it. I like trichotomy myself, we just have to steal it back from Aristotle. A threeway argument is hardly a step up, definitely a step sideways, baby step in the right direction.

One example of trying to avoid an obvious binary goes like this...

Juxtaposing the Iraq war with the Crusades is boring and misleading.
Juxtaposing the Muslim invasion into India with the Iraq war is also dull and predictable.

Now, if you compare the Muslim invasion into Iraq in the 600s to the modern Iraq war and also the Crusades...you get something slightly more interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
vs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
vs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_Persia#Conquest_of_Iraq_.28636_-_638.29

It's maybe not the best example but something like that...

(and I totally got the idea from the recent Muslim comment thread but too lazy to see who I nicked it from)

Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-vronsky.livejournal.com
Trichotomy is a bit too close to tracheotomy I think, but yeah, threeways and threesomes and holy trinities have always intrigued me.

But of course I left off my list the most important one...

faith, hope, love -- spiritual

Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I was glad to see the Hegelian dialectic in there, but isn't it a little different, in that the synthesis is a summation and supercession of the other two, rather than an equal partner?

Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-vronsky.livejournal.com
I think this is a valid point, much in the same way that the internet both summarizes and supersedes both radio and television, in that it consumes and subsumes them, leaving these more antique forms of media both obsolete and desolate.

Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-12 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Yeah, the internet is the ultimate synthesis, the five cent cigar that Bellow's Herzog was looking for.

Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-13 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-vronsky.livejournal.com
You haff made me very happy herr momus.

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Re: triangulate

Date: 2009-08-14 12:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hegel's Trialectic dammit! I'm keeping this weak-sauce witticism up until the cows come home, leave home, never left home.

Re: triangulate + 2 cents

Date: 2009-08-12 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jdcasten.livejournal.com
Yes… the Hegelian dialectic is often one of dividing what is implicit in a given from it, and “re-framing” the two in a higher order. For example: the simple experience of sensation (as presence) may have both subjective and objective elements implicit in it—but subjectivity can be understood within a broader context as a modality (an experience of a this-here-now) which is the isolated experience of a subject as an “object” (e.g. an “I” or a body)—the notion of an singular “I” is higher, more, refined than singular “pure experience,” but is seen by Hegel, as I understand, as implicit in that primordial subjective experience. Again: finding a wider single frame that relieves the contradiction found implicit in a given (again: e.g. 1 being = 2 both (thesis) subjective and (antithesis) objective; but 1 modality is an objectively locatable subjectivity (synthesis)).

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
both, for example, like both authoritarian and creative???

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
like both authoritarian and creative???

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 10:50 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
wow. is wire really writing about caroliner?
they're fantastic!

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, I was surprised. I wondered if it was Caroliner Rainbow or not.

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
"Caroliner continually adapt their collective identity with modifications of their name: their numerous incarnations include Caroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen, Caroliner Rainbow Wire Thin Sheep Legs Baking Exhibit, Caroliner Rainbow Customary Relaxation Of The Shale, Caroliner Rainbow Stand Still Or Fight Beans And Sunstroke and, currently, Caroliner Rainbow Curled Odure From The Cake Box."

(no subject)

Date: 2009-08-12 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Was the Joker creative or authoritarian, or both? Or neither?

You make me hate artists pretty often.

Date: 2009-08-13 12:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So to summarize Onda's self biography:
By the time he entered elementary school, he knew he was better than everybody else, that feeling continued in middle school, and on into college.

And I'll make up the rest because I'm that kind of jackass anonymous poster:
Later he continued to act irresponsibly to a degree that would have left him ruined had he ever had any responsibility to begin with. Then through some combination of well-received cocktail party banter and personal favors, his work grew periphery famous. He read the wind well enough to make it to the top. Now despite the fact that 99.9% of all humanity would rate his work as "interesting" and then shuffle into the next room, he gets drooled over by a small but elite circle of customers. And that's made all the difference.

Re: You make me hate artists pretty often.

Date: 2009-08-13 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Artists, eh? Can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em.

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