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Visiting-lecturing at Oslo's art school last week I had a chance to check out the city's fashion memes. It seemed to me that the garment language in the vicinity of art school buildings was fairly close to what you'd see in creative areas of cities like Berlin, Copenhagen, Stockholm, London: skinny jeans, Converse All Star plimsolls, a checked shirt or witty tee, a brightly-coloured keffiyeh scarf folded at the neck to make a point at the front, some chunky, brightly-coloured 80s-retro sunglasses or Rayban Wayfarer-type specs, hair rather neatly-trimmed at the sides and side-parted (in men) to evoke the 80s, neat beards.

Oslo -- you can peep the city yourself via Streetpeeper -- did seem slightly more formulaic than Berlin, though, slightly more "correct" in its approximation of this standard hipster outfit, as if the kids there were working a bit harder or more self-consciously to get the look "right", and perhaps spending more money than Berliners would. In that sense, Oslo felt a teensy bit more conformist and provincial than Berlin; a city with a small and intense creative scene where everyone is "on the same page", rather than Berlin's interlocking multitudes, its different looks on different tribes: deliberately-sinister suedeheaded gays, Terries on the music scene rocking Terry moustaches and Terry frames, students without enough cash to shop at Adidas or American Apparel, fashion people in fashion person sempiternal black, eccentric artists doing eccentric things.

I suppose I'd have to fit that last category; I've never invested in a pair of skinny jeans or a keffiyeh; I like the way they bring colour to an outfit, but I suppose I feel they're like old school ties or something -- they signal membership of a club I'm not really part of, a twentysomething tribe whose language I'm too old to speak. Here are some keffiyeh kids spotted at a recent Peres Projects opening in Berlin, for instance:



In Oslo I sported, instead, my usual homeless eccentric look, buying a cheap purple blanket and draping it over my shoulders. It was warm enough for me to leave the house without a jacket or a coat, just my little Tibetan monk's bag slung over a shoulder, holding the "cape" on. A pair of Chinese drawstring trousers blurred the shape of too-tight tights beneath -- tights which could almost look like the skinniest pair of Levis ever, if you wore them with Converse and a keffiyeh. Which I don't, and won't.

I think my look is probably closer to the eccentricities of the Gay Kids we looked at the other day. I seem to want to be a middle-aged trapper-pirate version of the goofy kids in the Start-Rite poster. Oh, you don't remember the Start-Rite poster? Of course. You weren't around in the sixties.



Out of all the students I spent time with over the past week, the two coolest, in terms of their visual self-presentation, were men. Rickard was a bearded Swede with the most amazingly big pale blue eyes, Mauro a Colombian with straggly Jesus hair, clear caramel skin and an elegantly-hooked nose. I asked Mauro where he got his spectacles (Ray Bans with a clear section at the bottom of the frame), and he told me he'd bought them for 100 yen (about a dollar) off a street vendor in Shinjuku just two weeks ago. It was sort of ironic, because we'd been talking about whether Colombian artists get their ideas from art magazines in London and New York -- whether, in other words, Bogota is culturally "provincial". But not only does Mauro do his fashion shopping in Tokyo, when we got down to art specifics -- discussing, for instance, a Colombian artist whose work reminded me of Jake and Dinos Chapman's Chapman Family Collection, or a Colombian rap video that made me think of Buraka Som Sistema -- it turned out that the Colombian versions had been done before their Western equivalents. It may be New York and London which are "provincial".

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Date: 2009-04-04 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 33mhz.livejournal.com
The skinny jeans/keffiyeh look has at this point become Bush II period costume to me. The bearded Swede is cute, but it looks like he's consciously trying to "dress contemporary."

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Date: 2009-04-04 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
The skinny jeans/keffiyeh look has at this point become Bush II period costume to me.

Can you describe the elements of a post-Bush II dress code you've been seeing, or do you mean this look is just a bit tired, but hasn't really been superseded yet?

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Date: 2009-04-04 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 33mhz.livejournal.com
I have seen the beginnings of a shift towards early 90s nostalgia, but nothing that's really gelled into a total look like this has.

I don't just mean that it's a bit tired, but that it evokes the Bush years very strongly for me--in the pants, an aesthetic reaction against the baggier styles of the mid to late 90s, and in the keffiyeh, a contrarian, cosmopolitan signifier of the Middle East as a reaction against post 9/11 xenophobia.

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Date: 2009-04-04 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadbatteries.livejournal.com
ColOmbia with no u.

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Date: 2009-04-04 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Yes, thanks.

By the way, you can hear the Colombian's music with the band REC MADE here (http://www.myspace.com/recmade).

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Date: 2009-04-04 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zephyrcrow.livejournal.com
I was expecting a lot more anonymous ire with this post, as usually happens with posts about fashion. Not that I didn't like it.

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Date: 2009-04-04 08:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
iadwtp

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Date: 2009-04-04 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petit-paradis.livejournal.com
I like the bearded swede's shirt. did you ask where he got it from? seems like nice cool fabric. and yes beautiful with the eyes match here.

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Date: 2009-04-04 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
No, I didn't ask. He's even rolled up the sleeves in a very immaculate way!

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Date: 2009-04-04 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonsai-human.livejournal.com
Is it lumberjack shirt time again already? That makes me feel old.

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Date: 2009-04-04 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
In Scandinavia it's always lumberjack shirt time. There are a lot of trees up there and someone's got to chop them down.

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Date: 2009-04-04 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
"London: skinny jeans, Converse All Star plimsolls, a checked shirt or witty tee, a brightly-coloured keffiyeh scarf folded at the neck to make a point at the front, some chunky, brightly-coloured 80s-retro sunglasses or Rayban Wayfarer-type specs, hair rather neatly-trimmed at the sides and side-parted (in men) to evoke the 80s, neat beards.

What 33mhz said. That's not a London fashion meme, that's a dated hipster/indie meme.

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Date: 2009-04-04 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Ha, well, you are wearing a "neat beard" in your userpic, Kuma, but maybe that's an old picture.

I'd repeat my plea to 33mhz, though. It's not terribly useful to say these memes are old without giving some idea of what you see replacing them. I realise I didn't do this in the post, but that was a location report, and I didn't really see anything more current. That may just be because I don't know what to look out for, though.

I'd add that old styles don't fade away, they just become available at Topshop. And then get revived by hipsters 15 years down the line. Unless THE ALTERMODERN stops doing that.

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The Loft, The June Brides, Primal Scream: the Saatchi gallery magazine has an interesting article about 80s indie fashion, and how fey British kids talked about rock'n'roll but looked like bullied schoolkids from the sixties. Today, I guess, they look like bullied schoolkids from the 80s.

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Date: 2009-04-04 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
For anyone looking for an alternative to the keffiyeh, I'd recommend my friend Hikaru Furuhashi's new Wondagon Neckarf (http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=sr_gallery_1&listing_id=23206927&ga_search_query=wondagon+neckarf&ga_search_type=tag_title&ga_page=&min=&max=&order=), available from her Etsy page.

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Date: 2009-04-04 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
The Japanese alternative to the Keffiyeh would be the furoshiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furoshiki). They were popular before the second world war in Japan. The Japanese used the furoshiki for carrying (it makes a very light weight, strong, compact bag) but you could wear one too I guess.



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The Start Rite kids

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Keffi-no?

Date: 2009-04-04 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Funny--tight jeans, keffiyahs, plaid shirts, Wayfarers, and Converse All-Stars were all the rage amongst the artist/elites of Chicago's Wicker Park and other boho districts, circa 1984-86. Short back-and-sides neatly parted or wedge-like hair was on the rise, too, for both boys and girls. Soon this look was subsumed by John Hughes movies ("The Breakfast Club," anything with Molly Ringwald, etc..) I was still in vintage ties and mid-century thrift-store suits with oxford shoes myself, as soon as Morrissey came along I was trying out loose flowery button-downs over t-shirts, too. What goes around comes around...

!! Looking closer I see that those Ray Bans pictured are exactly the two-tone ones I'm reading this page with right now--except mine have little screw-heads where the tiny silver bar is in the corners of those. I realize now I am being retro about my own retro youth and this is disturbing,

Zeddodo



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Date: 2009-04-04 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
We learned that odd word "keffiyah" then, but not knowing quite how to pronounce it, called them "terrorist scarves." Oh, my--please don't bring on another lecture about political correctness.

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Date: 2009-04-05 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pay-option07.livejournal.com
Clean, wholesome, well defined and contemporary influence of post modernist socialism. They don't seem to be affected by sub-cults like the top 3 economies of the world.

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Date: 2009-04-05 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 33mhz.livejournal.com
Here's an item to consider as far as 90s revival is concerned:

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The ragged black EKG-looking stripes, the gem toned colors, the layering, and the shape of the shoulders and the sleeves all scream early 90s to me. This was found just today on Jezebel, (http://jezebel.com/5198300/sienna-miller-pays-tribute-to-both-mustard-and-ketchup) worn by Sienna Miller.

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Date: 2009-04-05 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desant012.livejournal.com
Thinking about this post, I think, alas, New York is still on the cutting edge of fashion, if you consider "fashion" to be whomever predicts whatever retro's coming first. Early-mid 90s has been a thing here for a few years now... never noticed it until I bothered to think about it from this post, but I've been seeing it more and more as the years go by. This is the only place I've seen it so far, but I could be wrong.

So, people who care about this stuff, take your cues from New York again if you put style points on fashion forward retro. Undercuts for all!

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Date: 2009-04-05 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
NB, trendy cheap city hoppers, New York is getting gross, weird and inexpensive again. It'll probably be cheaper here than in Berlin by the end of the year. This is going to be an interesting few years...

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Date: 2009-04-06 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
it turned out that the Colombian versions had been done before their Western equivalents. It may be New York and London which are "provincial".

Mind that slippage. ;)

Surprised no one has cited the shoegaze fashions of that time; much more style-conscious crowd than the dour grunge goblins.

The rainbow thing left me cold then, as it does now: no discernible intent, no impact. Having a million colors going on at once is less interesting than a gray field. There was a lot of fun high key colors being used effectively then, though.

In general, the graphic design of the time sticks out in my memory more than the fashion, possibly because designers like me were mucking around with weird color combinations, screwy compositions and halfassed typeface designs, making a godawful mess of things.

Fashion is boring; style is more idiosyncratic and particular. Like Logan Pearsall Smith said: You can't be both fashionable and first-rate.