imomus: (Default)
[personal profile] imomus
I had a dream, and in this dream I was back at university. I was sitting a test in English Literature. I took a seat at the back of a sunny lecture room. It was all very civilised; there were even bottles of red wine on the tables, and the exam papers were rendered in watercolour (but the effect was of menstrual stains). We were told to turn the papers over and begin. There was a certain urgency in the room as everyone scrambled to grasp the questions, and tackle the two that best fitted their revision and expertise.

In growing dismay I found there was nothing in the paper I knew anything about. All the poets and writers covered were people I'd ruled out for various reasons. I poured a glass of red wine. While others scribbled, I lay back and thought. At first I thought I might start writing soon, but then I began to know I wouldn't. I started gazing out of the window. I could see buses passing, filled with people heading to a working class area of the city. I envied those people. I knew that in their working class district life was dense and vibrant, there were people from all over the world there, poor people. Because they were poor, life was cheap there, and because life was cheap you could be free, living amongst them. You could be free, and live on cheap Chinese food.

Casually, I walked out of the examination hall. I would walk away from my university course. Why did I even need to be there at all? Why did I need to answer irrelevant questions set by other people? I would find my own problems, my own questions. I would become an artist, and live cheaply in a poor part of town, and be free.

I got into my Mini Cooper (I was already measuring it up as a removals van, wondering how many trips I'd have to make to move all my stuff out of the hall of residence) and drove south. Not to a poor part of town, but to an abbey where friends of mine were rehearsing a wedding. Anne Laplantine was rehearsing her wedding with Xavier, and Toog and Flo were there. Toog was deeply moved, and weeping. They were all very pleased to see me, but didn't interrupt the rehearsal (it was at the most dramatic part).

I woke up with a feeling of liberty (and my head full of the flu). I had the sense that the life I'd woken up into was the life I'd planned in my dream; a cheap life of freedom, a life as an artist in a poor, dense and multicultural part of a big, exciting city.

I think my dream was influenced by the fact that, just before I went to bed, I put six weeks-worth of photos on my Flickr page. Although it feels rather too much as if I've been staying in these last six weeks, documenting my old albums, the photos persuade me that I've been living a rather exciting life as an artist; giving an unreliable art tour, visiting people's apartments in Vienna, going to a Buddhistic house run by Sri Lankans, sitting with David Woodard in a replica of a Polynesian Men's House, visiting the designer Jerszy Seymour in his studio, and so on.

I don't want to sound too self-congratulatory; I'm not sure I use my freedom, even now, as effectively as I could. Just as I drifted, perhaps, too long through my education (a final year at school, a fourth year at university), letting the irrelevant expectations of teachers and family delay my leap into the productive, self-structured life I planned and wanted, so even now I might let the internet boss me around -- is that possible? Is the internet my new "exam"? -- or take on too many commissions from editors (I'm on deadline, as usual, for articles). Well, I do have to live, after all.

A different corner...

Date: 2008-12-23 10:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Imagine how different life would have been if 'Hairstyle...' had been a hit?

You could have appeared on Swapshop, mimed on TOTP, have a brief few column inches in The Sun, been pressurised to create a carbon copy follow up and a more suitable album for the 'difficult' American market, a support on tour with Bros (suggested by your new management) that is cancelled half way through due to flagging sales, signed and left on the shelf by Sony as the album does not sell, start dating Mel and Kim, drugs hell, depression, sell story to NOTW, fade to oblivion, try to make band with various other 80s 'stars' but no one wants to sign you (apart from Cleopatra but they won't give an advance) reappear mid 90s on VH1 'one hit wonders' and 'where are they now', do the line up on 'Buzzcocks' to get ridiculed, and then join the 'play-the-hit' chicken in the basket nostalgia circuit with highly apparent self-loathing.

As Les said, 'It's a shit business'.

Herbal T

Re: A different corner...

Date: 2008-12-23 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
start dating Mel and Kim

And didn't one of them die of cancer? That would have depressed the hell out of me too, but I could have sold the story to the necro-tabloids, I guess.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cap-scaleman.livejournal.com
I still remember that when you blogged about your unreliable tour guide job in New York, you once wrote that "now I am running around in the subways of New York, wondering where it all went right". Eh, right? :)

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
And that's why I'll take Adam Ant over you any day of the week.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petit-paradis.livejournal.com
ASS!!...I mean...ACE!!!!!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
Yes, Adam's ass IS ace.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 11:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"I envied those people. I knew that in their working class district life was dense and vibrant, there were people from all over the world there, poor people. Because they were poor, life was cheap there, and because life was cheap you could be free, living amongst them. You could be free, and live on cheap Chinese food."
- a missing verse from Common People perhaps?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I dreamt last night that I was in a relationship with below:

Image

plus first flighty thought on the (i presume) tounge-firmly-in-cheek dreamscape.

"I envied those people. I knew that in their working class district life was dense and vibrant, there were people from all over the world there, poor people."

"No one worships trash in the slums...". Words from another (http://www.unpopart.org/manifestos/man_jim.html) Unpop pop pop op po op pop chewing gum bum on the subject.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
Yes, well at least he's making up for a life of unmigitated privilege by being hilarious? That's something, I guess.

I always thought I'd end up as one of the horrid old ladies in a Wilde play, and I have. Because I hate the middle classes for being immoral.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
See, Common People, as the supposed ultimate statement on the romanticization of poverty, doesn't impress me. Because I know both people involved, Jarvis and Sofia, who met at St Martin's College. And in many ways Jarvis has had it easy compared with Sofia, who comes from a family of communists imprisoned and persecuted by the military junta in Greece. Jarvis, meanwhile, comes from a fairly middle class and comfortable Sheffield home. I think he protesteth too much, like many of the Britpoppers (Damon and his dog-racing), and a large part of their audience (the "sudden football fans" of the 90s).

The ultimate statement on all this nonsense is still Monty Python's Four Yorkshiremen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A77ABcfMCQg).

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Don't quite get your objection to Jarvis, in the song he isn't pretending to speak as a representative of the working classes, just pointing out the wrong-headedness of a middle class idea that poor = cool. Only educated socially mobile middle class people with pretensions to slumming-it bohemianism can afford to entertain that paradigm, they have choice in the matter. That's all.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
... and if songs are to be read as having autobiographical veracity, on recently posted evidence you are both a cannibal and a necrophiliac!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
... and if songs are to be read as having autobiographical veracity, on recently posted evidence you are both a cannibal and a necrophiliac!

Yes, but Common People is patently a much more autobiographical song than "I Ate A Girl Right Up", surely? He really went to St Martin's, he really met this Greek girl, she probably did say something about feeling comfortable with people from working class backgrounds (she was, after all, raised as a communist), or wanting to slum it, or something. But I know both this girl's parents, and they're left wing intellectuals, not banking people. And I resent a song which says to left wing intellectuals "Fuck off if you want to live like poor people -- like me! You'll never know how hard and shitty it is!"

Someone aspiring to celeb status can't preach to someone going in the other direction. And right now, in the world, we all need to go in the other direction. We can't all be celebs living on credit and peak oil.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
she probably did say something about feeling comfortable with people from working class backgrounds (she was, after all, raised as a communist)

wha?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
yes if her parents were left wing intellectuals she is almost certainly middle class!

also she didn't study sculpture

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
And I resent a song which says to left wing intellectuals "Fuck off if you want to live like poor people -- like me! You'll never know how hard and shitty it is!"

Resent it if you must, but refuting it is a bit trickier.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-ranger.livejournal.com
Hah. It's impossible to refute.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kineticfactory.livejournal.com
Was Jarvis lying about her dad being loaded, or were Greek Communists of the time quite well off?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Being raised as a communist is not the same as coming from a communist family, her dad could indeed have been loaded, presumably he would have been paying her college fees.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
She has a dad and a step-dad, neither of whom were by any stretch of the imagination loaded. Her dad was (and still is) a poet, her step-dad (now dead) was a novelist who traveled often to the Soviet Union. He and her mum lived in quite an impressively big flat in the centre of Rome, but only because they got in early and enjoyed rent control. Her mum was forced out a few years ago when the service charge payments became too much for her to pay (and if the service charges were that high, imagine what the rent would have been at the commercial rates the landlord would clearly have preferred to be charging).

But, you know, poetic license and all that. "Her dad was a novelist and by no means loaded" would have disrupted the binary the song is so carefully balanced upon -- its fulcrum of self-righteousness.

(Needless to say, Jarvis is a lovely man, and the song makes a good point about some people at art school, I'm sure.)

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
the wrong-headedness of a middle class idea that poor = cool

I do think that poor is virtuous in many ways -- endless economic expansion is not an option, we don't have enough worlds for everyone to be affluent. We need to re-learn poverty, smaller eco-footprints, etc. And who better to teach us than the poor?

But I should point out that this dream -- and my lifestyle -- is not about joining the poor. It's about living cheaply amongst the poor, but enjoying a freedom many of them don't have. And if that sounds bastard-like, well, is it any better to live in freedom amongst the wealthy? Or to live in poverty amongst the poor?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's a simple fact you have the choice that 'they', on the whole don't, and this is as much a fact of class, education and economics as it is of anything else. I'm sure that 'they' are so grateful that you deign to move among them reminding them of the virtue in their poverty and how much the rest of the world can learn from them.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I repeat: If that sounds bastard-like, well, is it any better to live in freedom amongst the wealthy? Or to live unfree and in poverty amongst the poor? Because one of those solutions endorses decadence and unfairness (celebs in gated communities), the other endorses the virtue of poverty for its own sake, and unfreedom as some kind of plus.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The structure that allows you to live among your virtuous poor, is the very same structure that keeps them poor. Being from a relatively privileged educated middle-class background, you have chosen to live the way you do. Now I'm not blaming you personally for any of that or criticising you for choosing your lifestyle or living among the poor, but it seems a bit disingenuous and pompous to be making pronouncements about their virtue to your fans on a blog. Your 'dignifying' their poverty is not making one iota of practical difference to them positively or negatively, or making the slightest dent in the structure that creates these levels of urban inequalities. To or for whom are you 'endorsing' poverty, and to what ends? Surely not just to justify your own lifestyle choice? I suspect that most of your poor, immigrant, ethnic minority and working class neighbours happily aspire to leaving their poverty behind and it would be very interesting to hear their views on the virtue or otherwise of their own poverty. But the way things are they just have to get on with it, they are not in the class of people who make pronouncements on blogs or in songs. Anyway, in short, I think the situation is far more complex than the 'better or worse' binaries you are proposing.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It is complex, I agree.

The post-materialist "slumming" lifestyle is quite an important engine of urban regeneration -- and that brings good and bad things to any city -- but it would be a mistake to over-estimate its impact. Slummers -- people who deliberately adopt austere lifestyles in order to buy themselves the freedom to be creative -- might be at most 10% of an urban population. Possibly slightly higher in a place like Berlin, but not much. And although you do see a certain amount of "die yuppy scum" and "gentrify this" graffiti around here, there's very little tension between the slumming bobos and the upwardly mobile immigrant population -- who both do and don't embrace austerity: Turks (as muslims) don't drink, for instance, though they are likely to work quite hard in small businesses and be moderately "aspirational".

I've written quite a bit about the common points between the downward and upwardly mobile. Both groups, for instance, are markedly more cosmopolitan (http://imomus.livejournal.com/217216.html) than the dominant indigenous population, and both are likely to be selective and critical when deciding which values of Western culture they adopt, and which they reject.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Some of that graffiti (http://www.flickr.com/photos/imomus/3039238888/) is written by the yuppies themselves, of course. The rest is written by embittered class war types like the kind being condemned here (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Freuterkiez.net%2F2008%2F11%2F18%2Fandersdenkender-go-home%2F&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8) (sorry for the bad google-translated English).

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-ranger.livejournal.com
The whole "noble savage" bit seems a bit condescending to those of us actually on the bottom rung of the income ladder, but never you mind, we like the slummers-- who else is going to buy our weed?!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
we like the slummers-- who else is going to buy our weed?

Well, quite. But that's a Shamen song, not a Pulp song, innit?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rob-kun.livejournal.com
Out of interest, would your opinion be different if endless economic expansion were an option?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 11:21 pm (UTC)

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
By the way, may I say that Monty Python completely suck for their attitude to YouTube, a complete act of foot-shooting. They made a big deal about possible legal pursuit of people who put their sketches up, set up their own YouTube channel (http://uk.youtube.com/user/MontyPython) with the intention to make the sketches available for free with ads for the DVDs and things, then apparently changed their mind and made the sketches available via iTunes for a fee.

The result is that you can't see the Four Yorkshiremen sketch any more except in the inferior Hollywood Bowl version (which is a bit like seeing late Genesis in an arena when you want early Genesis in a Belgian TV studio)... unless you buy it from Apple. Well, sorry, Apple, but we British people paid for this material the first time around when we paid our license fees. And sorry, Monty Python, but you are rich and famous and have all the book and film deals you want. Stop being greedy, and stop shooting yourself in the foot.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
They don't no they're born, those Pythons.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
..and yet, the fact is the song did resonate with a lot of people, at the time and now

Britain is obsessed with class, so even if the actual story is a bit suspect, it's a pretty universal construct, what-ho! DC

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
I don't think the poor deserve to be glorified anymore than the rich and privileged necessarily deserve to be derided. What matters is one's thoughts and actions I suppose. but even thoughts and actions change with time, so how do you accurately judge someone? Maybe you can't accurately judge anyone.

I remember reading this interview (http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/interviews/afternausicaa.html#main) with Hayao Miyazaki, and he spoke about all this in depth:

"During the time I was trying to conclude 'Nausicaa', I did what some might think is a turnabout. I totally forsook Marxism. I had no choice but to forsake it. I decided that it is wrong, that historical materialism is also wrong, and that I shouldn't see things with it. And this is a bit hard. Even now, I sometimes think that things would be easier if I had not changed.
It's not that I changed dramatically, or changed by fighting myself relentlessly while I was writing, but various questions inside me became overwhelming.
I think that this clear change in my way of thinking came from my writing 'Nausicaa', rather than the change of my position in this society.
For example, at first, I even hesitated in making Nausicaa a daughter of the Chieftain Ghil - in short, a princess. I thought some might say such things as Nausicaa is in a sort of elite class, so I thought of ways to justify my choice. But these things became meaningless to me. It doesn't matter where she was born. I don't want to have a discussion about such things anymore. No matter which class one is born into, a stupid person is a stupid person, and a nice one is a nice one. It's not that one is right or wrong, it's just whether he/she is a nice guy, whether I want to become a friend with him/her. There are just such a distinction of people in this world. I stopped seeing things by class. It's a lie that one is right just because he/she is a laborer. The general public do many stupid things. I can't trust polls. With these kinds of things, I'm just going back to basics. This is not something eye-opening, it's been said many times. If I think about going back there again, I feel really dark, but I think I have to accept that. I think I have to see things on my own.
When I first saw the film of Mao Tse-tung receiving cheers from the big crowd in Tiananmen Square, I think it was the end of the 1950s, I felt his face was really inauspicious and ill favored. But since I was told that he had a big warm personality or such things, I thought maybe he happened to be ill and wasn't photogenic on that day, -laughs- I really thought so. But thinking back, I should've trusted my first feeling.
I did such things many times. I always tried to overpower my feelings with my ideals. I stopped doing so. I also look at the contemporary politicians just with my impressions...the feeling that this is a nice person, rather than an intuition. Even if he/she doesn't have a political capability, this is a nice person. We can't expect big things from them anyway, so the nicest one is better. I'm at the stage of seeing things tentatively with that level of thinking. In short, I went back to being stupid."




I want to instantly hate his viewpoint that you can just decide you like or dislike someone with no real basis to build your opinions upon. But then you start to fall into the trap of trying to justify your choices and that's when the holes appear and the logic starts to break down. Maybe you can't ever really get past liking someone simply because you personally find them congenial.


(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
With all due respect to Miyazaki -- who is a genius -- Marxism is not about the moral virtue of individuals. It's about putting in place a structure (socialism) that adjusts outcomes so that they are not unfair, and so that people who work can enjoy the fruits of their labour. They don't have to be the salt of the earth to do this, nor should they.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
I'm leaning more towards agreeing with you on your interpretation, but I'm going to give Miyazaki the benefit of the doubt and present a possible interpretation of his standpoint. Of course, only he could clarify it absolutely.

In the interview, right after he says "It's a lie that one is right just because he/she is a laborer." he says "The general public do many stupid things. I can't trust polls."

It seems to me like he's saying "Even if you were to put the power into the hands of the people, who's to say the people would choose what would be best for themselves?"

For example, imagine a society where a ruling elite existed and this ruling elite improved people lives for the better. Now imagine a "fair" society where everyone gets a slice of the pie, we are all have equal power, and yet society isn't run as successfully as if the ruling elite I'd mentioned before had been in charge. In reality, both set ups have the potential to work or fail, its the people who really make the difference.

Which would be better? It's that old chestnut -- Do the ends justify the means? I can't begin to answer that question.

On a very related note, The Open University essay I should be writing right now (rather than wasting time online) is on Stalin... Maybe I'll have more of an answer after I've written my essay.



dream

Date: 2008-12-23 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i quite like your style of retelling dreams, perhaps because it seems similar to mine. i in fact wrote you once, to tell you about a dream i had in which i ferried you from washington, dc to miami and we were accused of shoplifting in a home depot. you made some funny reference to persecution from ashcroft in your response; good to see times have changed somewhat for the better.

i love hearing about people's dreams and telling them my own. a close friend of mine hates it, and gets upset whenever anyone mentions theirs; i think it's sadly the result of having an unhealthily small imagination.

anyways, i jot most of my dreams down and try to find photos for them. do take a look if you'd like: crystalpepsitimemachine.blogspot.com

i am actually off to japan day after next for the first time. most of what i know about it comes from this blog. wish me luck!

--P

Re: dream

Date: 2008-12-23 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
See, you could have read Neojaponisme instead and just never wanted to go to Japan in the first place and saved yourself several k!

Have fun, and see you in Home Depot!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-23 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheapsurrealist.livejournal.com
Examination Dream - good name for an 80s band.

I have these kind of dreams often but I'm not as calm as you and I learn no valuable life lessons from them.

I just wake up screaming.

Profile

imomus: (Default)
imomus

February 2010

S M T W T F S
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10111213
14151617181920
21222324252627
28      

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags