Being a bit of a fan of ambivalence -- that Janus-like state in which our reactions face in two directions at the same time, which means it has something in common with collaboration -- I rather enjoy nuanced reviews of my work. Outright pan or praise doesn't feel right, fair or accurate, somehow. All-good or all-bad is bound to be a lie.So I enjoyed the mixed Joemus review in Brooklyn mag Prefix, which begins: "Nick Currie, who records as Momus, has spent much of his career treading some uncleansed middle ground between the irksome and the inspired". This review, which awards the record seven out of ten, leans to the "inspired" side but doesn't lose sight of failings, calling me on naff techniques and half-finished songs.

The review sees a natural pop singer with a "lopsided canon" thwarted by conceptual baggage and production tricks, but believes that "as soon as we’ve hit rock bottom we’re pulled up by our bootstraps". Almost every sentence has this ambivalent structure, as if to say "Although this record is pretty terrible, it's actually pretty good in the end". Of the work with Joe, for instance: "Occasionally the collaboration between these two disparate workers doesn’t gel... but it’s gratifying to hear how often they hit paydirt". Like The Vaudevillian in the final track, I'm "leaving the audience not knowing whether to applaud or call the emergency services".
Since many of you now have your copies of Joemus, I thought it might be time to issue a "how's my driving?" heads-up and a tollfree number. So how are you getting on with this album? Any juicy ambivalence to share? Tracks you skip, tracks you love, tracks on repeat? Are we talking curate's egg or Fabergé? Stinker or swimmer? Is Joemus the fourth worst of the twenty Momus albums, or the third best? A mixed bag or a nickelbag of funk? Jammus maximus or Janusbait? The lines are open.
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Date: 2008-11-20 09:36 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-11-20 09:40 am (UTC)a lot of the vocals you've chosen to subtly distort and digitize in an attempt to add a sense of 'wrongness' as you'd put it, and it reminded me of quite advanced singing synthesis technology Yahama has recently released called Vocaloid (http://www.vocaloid.com/).
Voice sysnthethis is reaching that 'uncanny valley' stage, but it's not quite there, and your album evokes a lot of that.
The Japanese artist Gackt joined up with Yahama to create a Gackt vocal synthesis product that consumers can buy to create their own homemade Gackt tracks. Both of these tracks use Gackt's vocal synthesis software:
A lot of what I heard of your album sounds like what I'd expect people to make if they could buy 'Momus in a box' vocaloid software from Yamaha.
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Date: 2008-11-20 09:45 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-11-20 11:28 am (UTC)Good luck with the society and say hi to Maf!
Bristol Momus Society
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Date: 2008-11-20 11:40 am (UTC)I haven't bought it yet, but I'll have a look in town today.
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Date: 2008-11-20 12:04 pm (UTC)I'll sing 'Widow Twanky' in the shower (complete with falsettoised, very bad Scottish accent: 'Un' called yeh stupid cuuuuuowww')
I'll usually listen to the more upbeat tracks while walking to work, and play the more trad tracks while milling around the house, cleaning and so forth. The only track I really skip with any consistently is 'Dracula' because it doesn't really fit into either category. It's a great premise for a song rather than a great song. I think the female vocals can be a bit difficult to understand, so a more casual listener might be a little put off by the delivery. But it's only a minor criticism. I like it. I do regularly listen to the album as a cohesive piece anyway and if I am doing so, I don't skip tracks. There's nothing totally totally awful there at all, whereas thinking about it, on every other newly released studio album I've bought this year (five, including yours) I have pressed the skip button on at least one track.
When walking to work, I'll favour the more upbeat tracks (Mr Proctor, Ichabod Crane, Jahwise Hammer)
James
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Date: 2008-11-20 01:54 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-11-20 02:56 pm (UTC)It took me a long time to warm to Mr Proctor (Hieronymus?) -- there's a lot going on, and it felt disorienting for the first few listens, if that makes any sense -- and such a short time to love eerie, dreamlike Widow Twanky that I found myself wondering why there aren't more songs about pantomime dames in the world. I haven't figured out how I feel about Jahwise Hammer yet. The track I'm most looking forward to hearing (because of the lyric) is The Vaudevillian.
So far, Widow Twanky and Dracula are my favourite tracks, and Dracula may have a slight edge. I don't have the vocabulary to describe what's happening musically in those tracks that's so appealing to me, but in Dracula, for example, I enjoy the way the music heightens the tension between the characters. Lyrically, I've been enjoying it for the unfashionably unsexy vampire and the assertive would-be "victim". It feels like a humorous, anti-erotic inversion of "death and the maiden" type songs (or whatever you'd call them -- "Don't Fear the Reaper", "Joan of Arc", the Leonard Cohen one, I mean). It still ends with a shiver, though, before going off into "pa-pa-pa".
If anything, I'd have liked to hear more of your voice unaltered on the original tracks.
By the way, I can see how it may be easier to enjoy a nuanced but largely positive review; the compliments are more pleasant for the fact that they're considered -- but wouldn't a similar negative one be worse than mindless panning? I.e. they've actually given it some thought and they still hate it?
Indescretion
Date: 2008-11-20 03:09 pm (UTC)yours indescreetly and slightly less gayly
Maf
ps. We have two and half members of the Brighton Momus Appreciation Society
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Date: 2008-11-20 03:55 pm (UTC)My copy is similarly late arriving from Cherry Red, grr, but as my pal bennycornelius has already suggested it will given a suitably respectful listening by we two when it does, and on a brand spanking new hi-fi to boot, which I need to cover in cling film on account of Ben's fetishisation of quality electronics.
And no gunning down mid song, since Maf will be Brighton way.
Miles
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Date: 2008-11-20 04:07 pm (UTC)Also, Mr Proctor is unfeasibly catchy, but nigh-on impossible to sing in the shower/while cycling/at all.
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Date: 2008-11-20 04:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-11-20 07:51 pm (UTC)Of course the record's good. Sometimes, as with the "O Trilogy," the distortion and bitcrushingis more interesting in theory than practice. It's like a truly deconstructive text: as a Form, compelling, as an actual text, unreadable.
I think I wrote this in a review of Ocky Milk, which was (melodically, at least) a much stronger album: vocals, vocals, vocals. I enjoy the distorted/AutoTune'd bits: mostly they work with the grain of the song, not against it. However, "Ichabod Crane," "Strewf!", and (especially) "Dracula" suffer from the distortion. This is especially tragic with "Dracula," as it had the potential to be a very funny, very beautifully-arranged pop-hörspiel.
I downloaded Ocky Milk from eMusic, and expected a little bit of muddiness in the files. Not wanting to experience the same thing, I dragged myself to Amoeba and bought one of their two copies of Joemus. Still relatively muddy. The weird thing is, Oskar and Otto don't seem to me to have this problem. Why is that?
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Date: 2008-11-20 08:03 pm (UTC)Risking the obvious chance of sounding completely full of myself (oh well, don't care)...I would say the reason with little doubt is, well, me. I spent a lot of time and thought into working out the kinks in the finished sound on many varied speakers and equipment to make it sound as good as I possibly could no matter what people would listen to it on, format included. OCD has also led me to building a large amount of exotic electronics from scratch as well no doubt.
-John Flesh
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Date: 2008-11-20 08:07 pm (UTC)I hope you do a similar post to this in a month or so as I'm sure the response volume will be of more value than these early impressions.
For what it's worth I certainly very much like what I've heard but it will probably be another week before I have my copy and I like to live with a cd for a few days before I formulate an opinion on it.
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Date: 2008-11-20 08:22 pm (UTC)Richard
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Date: 2008-11-20 08:35 pm (UTC)But. That's out of the way. I think the rest is really great. Esp. the first two songs, and then "The Cooper o' Fife" and "Strewf!" I have to give the image/comparison trick to one track: "Widow Twanky" is like a Prefab Sprout acid bath [corrosive acid, not hallucinogenic]. Love the pitch trick on the backing vocals of "Birocracy." (Ever heard Godley & Creme's "I Pity Inanimate Objects"?)
Actually, my only other critical comment right now is that I think "Dracula" gets derailed before it finishes. It should have maintained that drowsy dreaminess.
Yes yes, though, Joemus will be getting lots of play, and its overall exceptional nature will also inspire some more relistens to a batch of recent Momus albums, for some refreshing. I'll also go listen to Germlin now.
-Spencer
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Date: 2008-11-20 11:12 pm (UTC)i also bought the new Yximalloo cd when i was in new york - i really enjoyed your liner notes.
j
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Date: 2008-11-21 12:04 am (UTC)having heard all the ones youve posted i think it will be a most enjoyable sonic journey.admittedly it took me a while to "digest" oskar
tennis champion but now regard it very highly.
my personal top 7.
1/ping pong
2/20 vodka jellys
3/osakar
4/tender pervert
5/otto spooky
6/occy milk
7/poison boyfriend
ps.the gig you did in sereo glasgow was simply amazing although the sunday mail slagged it rotten....why? ps whats your fav momus album
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Date: 2008-11-21 12:32 am (UTC)One does tend to skip "The Mouth Organ," and, in fact, "Dracula," but only now, after repeated listens.
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Date: 2008-11-21 01:24 am (UTC)But I just wanted to say that I hope that the few people knocking the distortion on Dracula or the autotune on other tracks isn't discouraging, because it's one of the main things I love about your choice in quality on this record and in general. I've been so curious how you achieved that distorted effect on Dracula (I can't get enough of manipulated vocal tracks). How'd you do it?
Do tell, do tell! :)
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Date: 2008-11-21 02:52 am (UTC)Stereo, Glasgow, July 27
The eccentric Scot's set was like a Monty Python sketch without the humour. His behaviour was farcical and musically he was a shambles.
The only highlights were between songs when he was not playing his awful music or singing along to a tinny, keyboard-driven backing tape.
He has a degree of stage presence due to his distinctive eye-patch, straggly hair and brown apron. The uniquely limp choreography also made the show a little more bearable But his antics and tracks such as King Solomon's Song And Mine clearly pleased the few dozen fans who turned up as they offered hearty applause after each song. Mike Larkin (from iain)
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Date: 2008-11-21 11:14 am (UTC)Of course, I may change my mind about all this tomorrow!
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Date: 2008-11-21 05:29 pm (UTC)JoeMus
Date: 2008-11-21 06:24 pm (UTC)...stumbled home after a brutal week at work to find the latest Momus LP on my doormat..
will throw my quick capsule review this way later this eve..I feel a frisson in my slippers
maf
one of your best
Date: 2008-11-21 07:08 pm (UTC)Adam's First Click Opera Post
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