The rise and fall of postmodernism
Oct. 13th, 2008 01:53 pmTuesday, 6pm at London's Architectural Association I'm giving a talk called "The Ideology of the Iconic", but it might be better titled "The Rise and Fall of Postmodernism". Here, just so I can have all my notes for the talk in one place, are my notes. ("Et tu, Momus?" gasps Pomo, staggering on the steps of the forum, ironic blood pouring from its back.)
I'll start with a bold assertion: Postmodernism begins and ends with Persil. The "Saponides et Détergents" essay in Roland Barthes' Mythologies (1957) discusses Omo and Persil (both made by Unilever) as if they were iconic deities (in fact they were almost identical powders). Almost fifty years later Spice Girl Victoria Beckham said she wanted to be "as famous as Persil Automatic".
Richard Hamilton in 1957, The Eleven Commandments of mass culture:
1. Popular (designed for mass audiences) 2. Transient (short-term solution) 3. Expendable (easily forgotten) 4. Low cost 5. Mass produced 6. Young (aimed at youth) 7. Witty 8. Sexy 9. Gimmicky 10. Glamorous 11. Big business.
Distinctions collapsed by postmodernism:
HIGH / LOW
HERE / THERE
NOW / THEN
MINE / THEIRS
SACRED / PROFANE (the old and new definitions of "iconic")
ORIGINAL / COPY
Perhaps we should add FREEDOM / COMPULSION; despite the idea of the "death of the author" enabling the reader, pomo saw the disabling of the will of the consumer (the guilty pleasures of puritan consumerism), the creative (the metaphysical masochism of the capitalist creative), the critic (the curse of situatedness), the icon herself.
Diana to Bashir: "you see yourself as a good product that sits on a shelf and sells well, and people make a lot of money out of you".
http://imomus.com/thought110100.html
Metaphysical masochism of the capitalist creative
http://imomus.livejournal.com/86472.html
Guilty Pleasures
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n23/jay_01_.html
Speaking Azza (Martin Jay / David Simpson) Situatedness
Artists, too, ceased to impose their own will. Warhol's capitulated stance that everything was "great", his (ironic, non-ironic, nihilist) celebration of celebrity, leading to Koons, Hirst, Pharmacy, gormless irony, and the twin traps of satire and pastiche.
Kirsty Wark: "Love her or loathe her, you cannot underestimate Madonna's impact on music or her iconic status"
John Wilson interviewing Terence Davies on Front Row (audio file)
Oasis referencing the Magical Mystery Tour, Keane referencing Ashes to Ashes -- even when inspired by creative mentors, they also have their creative will radically disabled by the ouroboros / echo chamber / museum pop has become
Pop culture has become an interpretive art, not an improvisational or innovative one
Failure to rip up the rulebook has produced an epigone culture
Critics pick iconic albums over the decades, only three from the last ten years
http://imomus.livejournal.com/315200.html
The rise and fall of popular music
ARCHEOLOGY OF THE WORD ICONIC
Repetition culture, marketing and PR, instant classics, branding, celebrity, recognition rather than cognition
Russian icons exhibition at the RA 1998
Rant by prof
Dr Stephen James
Senior Lecturer in English
University of Bristol
http://imomus.livejournal.com/405514.html
Pop, populism, unpop, apoptosis
http://www.amazon.com/How-Brands-Become-Icons-Principles/dp/1578517745
How Brands become Icons: Principles of Cultural Branding by Douglas B Holt
In this eye-opening book, Holt demonstrates that brands become icons not by highlighting unique features and benefits but by staking out a provocative and valued position in the national culture. Iconic brands address acute cultural contradictions -- and the widespread desires and anxieties they create -- by "performing" myths.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v00/n03/zize01_.html
Don't Just Do Something, Talk
Slavoj Zizek on the tendency for financial analysts to go meta: to describe their sentiment of market sentiment
http://www.frieze.com/comment/article/genuinely_rude/
Genuinely rude, Frieze: fall of master critics, rise of PR people: 47,800 PR people feeding stories to just 45,000 journalists in the UK
the recursive fate of all attempts to redefine
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/arts/artexhibition-20634236-details/Tino+Sehgal/artexhibitionReview.do?reviewId=23384000
Tino Seghal at ICA: "But as an act of 'subversion' surely it's all a bit lame. Certainly, the typical ICA crowd this will attract are just too art savvy to think this a genuinely thought-provoking piece. For where once the pushing of boundaries in art gave the ICA its purpose, that very concept now appears extremely tired."
In order to understand Nathan Barley's jokes, you had to be part of the group it satirized.
MID-POMO
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Paul Morley interviews Brian Eno in The Thing Is... 1992
Note Barbara Kruger graphics
The promise of digital democratization
http://imomus.com/index499.html
Pop Stars? Nein danke!
http://www.shirky.com/writings/powerlaw_weblog.html
Power Laws, Weblogs and Inequality Clay Shirky
http://imomus.com/thought270199.html
Time Out sections and their different attitudes to Pomo in 1999
WHAT POMO HAS BECOME
http://imomus.livejournal.com/241754.html
Love... or "remasturbation"?
http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/commentary/imomus/2007/02/72705?currentPage=all
Golden Age of Stupid Impact
http://imomus.livejournal.com/255928.html
Retro Necro
http://imomus.livejournal.com/342852.html
Quinlan Terry
LATE POMO POP CULTURE
http://imomus.livejournal.com/205196.html
Chop of the Pops
http://imomus.livejournal.com/384077.html
As with Disco, so with the disc
The MUDAM conference in April, Candice Breitz's admission that appropriationism might be "generational"
THE RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF HIGH AND UNDERGROUND CULTURE POST-POMO
http://www.juliangough.com/journal/2008/9/14/david-foster-wallace-has-committed-suicide.html
Julian Gough on attacking pop culture as "beating up prostitutes"
Bourriaud's idea of the Altermodern
a globalization of multipolarity, translation, a point-to-point, many-to-many world rather than the New World Order of 90s globalization, which arranged everything around a single, central hub (the US, the West).
http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/commentary/imomus/2007/04/imomus0410
Failure of the democratic promise of pomo
http://imomus.com/index499.html
Pop Stars? Nein danke!
http://www.shirky.com/writings/powerlaw_weblog.html
Power Laws, Weblogs and Inequality Clay Shirky
Repressive desublimation
http://imomus.livejournal.com/116632.html
Dionysus, meet Jesus!
Adam Curtis Century of the Self
There is a policeman inside our heads -- he must be destroyed
Nuns Sister Corita
Reappearance of nuns and museums in work by, for instance, Tacita Dean and Lucy Skaer & Rosalind Nashashibi
http://www.frieze.com/issue/review/5th_berlin_biennial
Frieze review of 5th Berlin Biennial
"disappeared moments fade again, or twinkle obliquely across a great divide: the dusty conflations of ancient and modern objects (coins, cracked vases, keys, scissors) that Paul Sietsema’s camera patiently anatomises in his 16mm film Figure 3 (2008), for example, or the half-revived remnants of antiquity in films, photographs and a floor-based Perspex mimicry of a frieze of charioteers in Lucy Skaer and Rosalind Nashashibi’s installation Pygmalion (2008). These works can’t restore the certainties those times appeared to enjoy. What we might do now, this show quietly infers, is evolve towards an acceptance of the restlessly incommensurate"
Dexter Sinister's ludic didacticism
http://imomus.livejournal.com/353140.html
Pervasive Urban Gaming, my ambivalence about the ludic
There is a tyranny of structure, and a tyranny of structurelessness
Turning the corner on the American Empire
Gangsta rap -- the ultimate incarnation, perhaps, of American pop cultural values (suitcases of money, power, corruption, murder, guns, sex, the inflated maverick self) -- replaced by reggae, Afropop and Matsuri-kei.
http://imomus.livejournal.com/404886.html
Reggae and the concept of Babylon
Who is the better economist, Lee "Scratch" Perry or Alan "Scratch That" Greenspan?
http://imomus.livejournal.com/405953.html
Matsuri-kei
http://imomus.livejournal.com/406409.html
Afropop
Flashy shows (still going on in the form of Basel and Hirst etc) replaced by Documenta, Berlin Biennial, Yokohama Triennale, etc.
Modernity as our antiquity (bypassing the pomo, an embarrassing, noisy comedy uncle)
Cairoscape
http://imomus.livejournal.com/403930.html
In the Desert of Modernity
http://vernissage.tv/blog/2008/09/23/in-the-desert-of-modernity-house-of-world-cultures-berlin/
Africa as a laboratory for Modernism
http://imomus.livejournal.com/406227.html
Peyton Place or the Altermodern?
Distinctions collapsed by postmodernism (re-examine their resurrection)
HIGH / LOW
HERE / THERE
NOW / THEN
MINE / THEIRS
SACRED / PROFANE
ORIGINAL / COPY
Attacks on popular culture
Tomoko Miyata saying she didn't listen to pop "because I was a rebel"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2008/oct/08/classicalmusicandopera
Peter Maxwell Davies hits out against Damien Hirst, the universe and everything
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/oct/09/youngpeople.history
Historian says Beatles were just capitalists, and not youth heroes
The re-establishment of the underground and of difficult high culture
http://imomus.livejournal.com/344651.html
Documenta 12 just keeps getting better
http://imomus.livejournal.com/395955.html
Oorutaichi
http://imomus.com/thought061000.html
Unpop
http://imomus.livejournal.com/404264.html
Sacrificial Dandy Simon Bookish
Berlin as a museum of subcultures
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n17/jame02_.html
Frederic Jameson reviews Zizek, defines parallax
http://imomus.livejournal.com/270384.html
Cupid, po and psych
In Sophia's book the origins of postfeminism are described like this: "The first shift between feminism and postfeminism was marked by the following event: Paris, 6 March 1968 -- International Women's Day. Members of the group psychanalyse et politique (later re-named politique et psychanalyse, or po et psych) marched through the city carrying placards reading 'Down with Feminism'." But "postfeminism does not mean that feminism is over. It signifies a shift in feminist theory... In the shift from feminism to postfeminism, women have begun to celebrate difference rather than equality."
Runnerup-ization
http://imomus.livejournal.com/398191.html
Tao Lin
Oasis
http://imomus.livejournal.com/405024.html
De-celebritization of everyday life
An American train driver talks about ritual and legitimacy
(The reverse logic of reality TV)
Multipolarity and incommensurability
The Altermodern
Has pop music now switched from paradigmatic (which connects to iconic) to syntagmatic mode? In other words, is it a landscape of incommensurables, the Zizekian parallax?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis
Apoptosis
Programmed cell death can create fingers and toes in the organism by killing the cells in between. This is how new shapes are made, new tools which in turn will create new tools, and new culture. In our cultural laboratories we need to cauterize the dead cells of American-era and popular culture, and go forward from the postmodern-iconic-monopolar to the altermodern-incommensurate-multipolar.
I'll start with a bold assertion: Postmodernism begins and ends with Persil. The "Saponides et Détergents" essay in Roland Barthes' Mythologies (1957) discusses Omo and Persil (both made by Unilever) as if they were iconic deities (in fact they were almost identical powders). Almost fifty years later Spice Girl Victoria Beckham said she wanted to be "as famous as Persil Automatic".Richard Hamilton in 1957, The Eleven Commandments of mass culture:
1. Popular (designed for mass audiences) 2. Transient (short-term solution) 3. Expendable (easily forgotten) 4. Low cost 5. Mass produced 6. Young (aimed at youth) 7. Witty 8. Sexy 9. Gimmicky 10. Glamorous 11. Big business.
Distinctions collapsed by postmodernism:
HIGH / LOW
HERE / THERE
NOW / THEN
MINE / THEIRS
SACRED / PROFANE (the old and new definitions of "iconic")
ORIGINAL / COPY
Perhaps we should add FREEDOM / COMPULSION; despite the idea of the "death of the author" enabling the reader, pomo saw the disabling of the will of the consumer (the guilty pleasures of puritan consumerism), the creative (the metaphysical masochism of the capitalist creative), the critic (the curse of situatedness), the icon herself.
Diana to Bashir: "you see yourself as a good product that sits on a shelf and sells well, and people make a lot of money out of you".
http://imomus.com/thought110100.html
Metaphysical masochism of the capitalist creative
http://imomus.livejournal.com/86472.html
Guilty Pleasures
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n23/jay_01_.html
Speaking Azza (Martin Jay / David Simpson) Situatedness
Artists, too, ceased to impose their own will. Warhol's capitulated stance that everything was "great", his (ironic, non-ironic, nihilist) celebration of celebrity, leading to Koons, Hirst, Pharmacy, gormless irony, and the twin traps of satire and pastiche.
Kirsty Wark: "Love her or loathe her, you cannot underestimate Madonna's impact on music or her iconic status"
John Wilson interviewing Terence Davies on Front Row (audio file)
Oasis referencing the Magical Mystery Tour, Keane referencing Ashes to Ashes -- even when inspired by creative mentors, they also have their creative will radically disabled by the ouroboros / echo chamber / museum pop has become
Pop culture has become an interpretive art, not an improvisational or innovative one
Failure to rip up the rulebook has produced an epigone culture
Critics pick iconic albums over the decades, only three from the last ten years
http://imomus.livejournal.com/315200.html
The rise and fall of popular music
ARCHEOLOGY OF THE WORD ICONIC
Repetition culture, marketing and PR, instant classics, branding, celebrity, recognition rather than cognition
Russian icons exhibition at the RA 1998
Rant by prof
Dr Stephen James
Senior Lecturer in English
University of Bristol
http://imomus.livejournal.com/405514.html
Pop, populism, unpop, apoptosis
http://www.amazon.com/How-Brands-Become-Icons-Principles/dp/1578517745
In this eye-opening book, Holt demonstrates that brands become icons not by highlighting unique features and benefits but by staking out a provocative and valued position in the national culture. Iconic brands address acute cultural contradictions -- and the widespread desires and anxieties they create -- by "performing" myths.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v00/n03/zize01_.html
Don't Just Do Something, Talk
Slavoj Zizek on the tendency for financial analysts to go meta: to describe their sentiment of market sentiment
http://www.frieze.com/comment/article/genuinely_rude/
Genuinely rude, Frieze: fall of master critics, rise of PR people: 47,800 PR people feeding stories to just 45,000 journalists in the UK
the recursive fate of all attempts to redefine
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/arts/artexhibition-20634236-details/Tino+Sehgal/artexhibitionReview.do?reviewId=23384000
Tino Seghal at ICA: "But as an act of 'subversion' surely it's all a bit lame. Certainly, the typical ICA crowd this will attract are just too art savvy to think this a genuinely thought-provoking piece. For where once the pushing of boundaries in art gave the ICA its purpose, that very concept now appears extremely tired."
In order to understand Nathan Barley's jokes, you had to be part of the group it satirized.
MID-POMO
[Error: unknown template video]
Paul Morley interviews Brian Eno in The Thing Is... 1992
Note Barbara Kruger graphics
The promise of digital democratization
http://imomus.com/index499.html
Pop Stars? Nein danke!
http://www.shirky.com/writings/powerlaw_weblog.html
Power Laws, Weblogs and Inequality Clay Shirky
http://imomus.com/thought270199.html
Time Out sections and their different attitudes to Pomo in 1999
WHAT POMO HAS BECOME
http://imomus.livejournal.com/241754.html
Love... or "remasturbation"?
http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/commentary/imomus/2007/02/72705?currentPage=all
Golden Age of Stupid Impact
http://imomus.livejournal.com/255928.html
Retro Necro
http://imomus.livejournal.com/342852.html
Quinlan Terry
LATE POMO POP CULTURE
http://imomus.livejournal.com/205196.html
Chop of the Pops
http://imomus.livejournal.com/384077.html
As with Disco, so with the disc
The MUDAM conference in April, Candice Breitz's admission that appropriationism might be "generational"
THE RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF HIGH AND UNDERGROUND CULTURE POST-POMO
http://www.juliangough.com/journal/2008/9/14/david-foster-wallace-has-committed-suicide.html
Julian Gough on attacking pop culture as "beating up prostitutes"
Bourriaud's idea of the Altermodern
a globalization of multipolarity, translation, a point-to-point, many-to-many world rather than the New World Order of 90s globalization, which arranged everything around a single, central hub (the US, the West).
http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/commentary/imomus/2007/04/imomus0410
Failure of the democratic promise of pomo
http://imomus.com/index499.html
Pop Stars? Nein danke!
http://www.shirky.com/writings/powerlaw_weblog.html
Power Laws, Weblogs and Inequality Clay Shirky
Repressive desublimation
http://imomus.livejournal.com/116632.html
Dionysus, meet Jesus!
Adam Curtis Century of the Self
There is a policeman inside our heads -- he must be destroyed
Nuns Sister Corita
Reappearance of nuns and museums in work by, for instance, Tacita Dean and Lucy Skaer & Rosalind Nashashibi
http://www.frieze.com/issue/review/5th_berlin_biennial
Frieze review of 5th Berlin Biennial
"disappeared moments fade again, or twinkle obliquely across a great divide: the dusty conflations of ancient and modern objects (coins, cracked vases, keys, scissors) that Paul Sietsema’s camera patiently anatomises in his 16mm film Figure 3 (2008), for example, or the half-revived remnants of antiquity in films, photographs and a floor-based Perspex mimicry of a frieze of charioteers in Lucy Skaer and Rosalind Nashashibi’s installation Pygmalion (2008). These works can’t restore the certainties those times appeared to enjoy. What we might do now, this show quietly infers, is evolve towards an acceptance of the restlessly incommensurate"
Dexter Sinister's ludic didacticism
http://imomus.livejournal.com/353140.html
Pervasive Urban Gaming, my ambivalence about the ludic
There is a tyranny of structure, and a tyranny of structurelessness
Turning the corner on the American Empire
Gangsta rap -- the ultimate incarnation, perhaps, of American pop cultural values (suitcases of money, power, corruption, murder, guns, sex, the inflated maverick self) -- replaced by reggae, Afropop and Matsuri-kei.
http://imomus.livejournal.com/404886.html
Reggae and the concept of Babylon
Who is the better economist, Lee "Scratch" Perry or Alan "Scratch That" Greenspan?
http://imomus.livejournal.com/405953.html
Matsuri-kei
http://imomus.livejournal.com/406409.html
Afropop
Flashy shows (still going on in the form of Basel and Hirst etc) replaced by Documenta, Berlin Biennial, Yokohama Triennale, etc.
Modernity as our antiquity (bypassing the pomo, an embarrassing, noisy comedy uncle)
Cairoscape
http://imomus.livejournal.com/403930.html
In the Desert of Modernity
http://vernissage.tv/blog/2008/09/23/in-the-desert-of-modernity-house-of-world-cultures-berlin/
Africa as a laboratory for Modernism
http://imomus.livejournal.com/406227.html
Peyton Place or the Altermodern?
Distinctions collapsed by postmodernism (re-examine their resurrection)
HIGH / LOW
HERE / THERE
NOW / THEN
MINE / THEIRS
SACRED / PROFANE
ORIGINAL / COPY
Attacks on popular culture
Tomoko Miyata saying she didn't listen to pop "because I was a rebel"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2008/oct/08/classicalmusicandopera
Peter Maxwell Davies hits out against Damien Hirst, the universe and everything
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/oct/09/youngpeople.history
Historian says Beatles were just capitalists, and not youth heroes
The re-establishment of the underground and of difficult high culture
http://imomus.livejournal.com/344651.html
Documenta 12 just keeps getting better
http://imomus.livejournal.com/395955.html
Oorutaichi
http://imomus.com/thought061000.html
Unpop
http://imomus.livejournal.com/404264.html
Sacrificial Dandy Simon Bookish
Berlin as a museum of subcultures
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n17/jame02_.html
Frederic Jameson reviews Zizek, defines parallax
http://imomus.livejournal.com/270384.html
Cupid, po and psych
In Sophia's book the origins of postfeminism are described like this: "The first shift between feminism and postfeminism was marked by the following event: Paris, 6 March 1968 -- International Women's Day. Members of the group psychanalyse et politique (later re-named politique et psychanalyse, or po et psych) marched through the city carrying placards reading 'Down with Feminism'." But "postfeminism does not mean that feminism is over. It signifies a shift in feminist theory... In the shift from feminism to postfeminism, women have begun to celebrate difference rather than equality."
Runnerup-ization
http://imomus.livejournal.com/398191.html
Tao Lin
Oasis
http://imomus.livejournal.com/405024.html
De-celebritization of everyday life
An American train driver talks about ritual and legitimacy
(The reverse logic of reality TV)
Multipolarity and incommensurability
The Altermodern
Has pop music now switched from paradigmatic (which connects to iconic) to syntagmatic mode? In other words, is it a landscape of incommensurables, the Zizekian parallax?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis
Apoptosis
Programmed cell death can create fingers and toes in the organism by killing the cells in between. This is how new shapes are made, new tools which in turn will create new tools, and new culture. In our cultural laboratories we need to cauterize the dead cells of American-era and popular culture, and go forward from the postmodern-iconic-monopolar to the altermodern-incommensurate-multipolar.
Re: i apologize Momus, but....
Date: 2008-10-14 02:58 am (UTC)The Trap: What Happened to Our Dream of Freedom is a BBC documentary series by English filmmaker Adam Curtis, well known for other documentaries including The Century of the Self and The Power of Nightmares. It began airing on BBC Two on 11 March 2007. The series consists of three one-hour programmes which explore the concept and definition of freedom, specifically, "how a simplistic model of human beings as self-seeking, almost robotic, creatures led to today's idea of freedom."
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=404227395387111085&ei=-XrySNjoOovEiALyiKTsDg&q=the+trap
Part One: Fuck You Buddy
In this episode, Curtis examines the rise of game theory during the Cold War and the way in which its mathematical models of human behaviour filtered into economic thought. The programme traces the development of game theory with particular reference to the work of John Nash, who believed that all humans were inherently suspicious and selfish creatures that strategised constantly. Using this as his first premise, Nash constructed logically consistent and mathematically verifiable models, for which he won the Nobel Prize for Economics.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1087742888040457650&ei=bXzySInXJpCsiAKByujDBg&q=the+trap+2
Part Two: The Lonely Robot
The second episode reiterated many of the ideas of the first, but developed the theme that drugs such as Prozac and lists of psychological symptoms which might indicate anxiety or depression were being used to normalise behaviour and make humans behave more predictably, like machines. This was not presented as a conspiracy theory, but as a logical (although unpredicted) outcome of market-driven self-diagnosis by checklist based on symptoms, but not actual causes, discussed in the previous programme.
...
Film of Richard Dawkins propounding his ultra-strict "selfish gene" analogy of life was shown, with the archive clips spanning two decades to emphasise how the severely reductionist ideas of programmed behaviour have been absorbed by mainstream culture. (Later, however, the documentary gives evidence that cells are able to selectively replicate parts of DNA dependent on current needs. According to Curtis such evidence detracts from the simplified economic models of human beings.). This brought Curtis back to the economic models of Hayek and the game theories of Cold War. Curtis explains how, with the "robotic" description of humankind apparently validated by geneticists, the game theory systems gained even more hold over society's engineers.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7581348588228662817&ei=oX3ySMKGBIewiAKq4qXgDg&q=the+trap+3
Part 3: We Will Force You To Be Free
The final programme focussed on the concepts of positive and negative liberty introduced in the 1950s by Isaiah Berlin. Curtis briefly explained how negative liberty could be defined as freedom from coercion and positive liberty as the opportunity to strive to fulfill one's potential. Tony Blair had read Berlin's essays on the topic and wrote to him[4] in the late 1990s, arguing that positive and negative liberty could be mutually compatible. He never received a reply, as Berlin was on his death bed. The programme began with a description of the Two Concepts of Liberty, reviewing Berlin's opinion that, since it lacked coercion, negative liberty was the 'safer' of the two. Curtis then explained how many political groups who sought their vision of freedom ended up using violence to achieve it.
...
In essence, the programme suggested that following the path of negative liberty to its logical conclusions, as governments have done in the West for the past 50 years, resulted in a society without meaning populated only by selfish automatons, and that there was some value in positive liberty in that it allowed people to strive to better themselves.
really interesting stuff. the sound is a little out of sync in places, but i could get past it - his style is great, heavily Godard influenced. lots of rapid fire archive, slogans and vignettes.
Re: i apologize Momus, but....
Date: 2008-10-14 07:27 am (UTC)