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Yes, children, I am old. Very old indeed. Mostly I manage to forget that fact by keeping slim, quick, and focused on the future rather than the past. But occasionally someone reminds me that I've been around for a very long time. By, for instance, asking me questions about an album I made back in 1982, before many of you websnappers were born.

Jeff Keibel, who runs Facing the Wrong Way, an interesting website dedicated to cult indie label 4AD, is one such person. Jeff approached me last month with an incredibly detailed set of questions about my first (and only) band, The Happy Family. He seemed to care -- in fact, he seemed to be about the only person in the world to care about this band, and the odd Brechtian concept album we made -- so I answered his questions. At length. It was a rather fascinating exercise in time travel, in fact.

For some reason it's impossible to link directly to the interview, but if you go here, click "3 Features" then click "Interviews" it's at the top of the page. I talk about how the band formed, how we never quite felt we fitted with the 4AD aesthetic, how I regret now not getting a Vaughan Oliver sleeve when Ivo offered us one (I designed my own, since my big ambitions at the time were "to be a journalist, a novelist, a graphic designer, and David Bowie"). I talk about the album's themes of incest, ambition and terrorism, and why I made it a concept album:

When did you come up with the idea that the album would be a conceptual affair?
It must have been just after the EP came out. We had these songs that felt a bit wishy-washy to me. The song that became "Revenge", for instance, started life as a song saying "my first home was a woman, I've been homesick from birth". The themes were just too vague and well-meaning. I wanted to inject some venom and some drama. I wanted to be more Brechtian, make a complex work of art rather than a straight set of songs. So I rewrote the songs, starting with a sketch I already had called "The Salesman", and made them into a drama involving a lottery win, a political landslide, a Red Brigades assassination. I think the wide sweep of Swiss and Italian landscape, the lushness of vision, was also inspired by what fellow Scottish bands like The Scars and The Associates were doing. Everything was very European at that moment, very widescreen, very Sound of Music.

The album is at once rather happy sounding but when the listeners really understood the lyrics they realized that this was quite a dark experience. Was it your idea to make appealing music with daring and risky subject matter, like incest?
I think the incest theme came from my favourite novel of the time, Ian McEwan's The Cement Garden. My parents' divorce casts a big shadow over the album, combined with my political frustration over Thatcherism. My mother married a rich accountant who was thoroughly Thatcherite in his values. Personal trauma mingled with political anger, and you can hear it all quite clearly on the record, I think.

How much of your lyrics come from your life and past compared with things straight out of your imagination?
As the last answer shows, it was a mixture of the two. There were lots of aesthetic references I wanted to make, to Brecht, Pavese, Calvino, Pasolini, Kafka. But there's also a lot of personal stuff about my family's disintegration in there, and the politics of Britain in the early 80s as seen from a frustrated leftist perspective.

Do you sometimes feel as if The Man On Your Street was ahead of its time - that if released today would have a better shot at mainstream reach thanks to the internet and sites like Pitchfork preaching the musical gospel?
I think it would always fall outside the mainstream, even the mainstream of indie, because it was too intelligent and complex for the audience. But also not very exciting musically, perhaps. I mean, it wasn't avant garde enough to excite by its sonic novelty, and not universal enough in its themes to reach a wider, more conservative audience. It sort of fell between two stools in that sense (the trad stool and the avant stool), and those stools haven't really shifted much since. Any records like that would still fall between them.

Since many of you probably haven't heard The Happy Family, here's a track from the album we made. It's called The Courier, and it owes something to Auden's "Paid on Both Sides" (it even references the drama in its lyric). But it's also a very direct and personal manifesto of sorts expressing a young, fierce, skeptical and neurotic puritan's determination to remain unsullied by compromise. "Hell's the way we get on in this world, not where we go when we die... We all carry a language, we all carry a love, to keep them sublime to the end of the line, please say that's enough..."

The Happy Family: The Courier (from the 1982 album on 4AD, "The Man on Your Street", mp3 file)

Amazingly enough 4AD is still in business (Ivo was bought out a few years ago, but the label still has interesting groups like The Mountain Goats and Blonde Redhead) and you can still buy The Happy Family album in digital form. Feel free to listen to the clips or even buy some of them. You won't be compromising my fierce Maoist-Calvist sense of integrity; 4AD haven't accounted to me since the early 80s. As far as this record goes, I'm paid on neither side.

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Date: 2008-03-13 10:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I like being called a websnapper.


wewillbecome.com

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Date: 2008-03-13 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
mumble grumble... move too quick... humbug... can't keep up with 'em... (indecipherable pirate curses)... websnappers...

Image

humbug... water striders... pond skaters... hmmmph... (marine obscenities)... 4AD...

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Date: 2008-03-13 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistresshellena.livejournal.com
I shelled out a bit of money up in Glasgow recently for a "his name is alive" album. mainly to have a vaughan oliver record sleeve (as opposed to the wee CD covers tat just don't cut it.)

:)

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Date: 2008-03-13 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
Hahaha. Does that mean I can be Jareth?

*shoves socks down trousers*

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Date: 2008-03-13 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
No, you have to be Sarah: "Sarah's world is as much full of her childhood fantasies as it is with reality."

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Date: 2008-03-13 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
Tell me when you're going to start wearing tight pants so I can make you a site like Bowie's (http://www.areaology.com/area.html). You'll be just like your idol!

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Date: 2008-03-13 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Talking of people who (aren't) just like him, check out this video of his son Duncan (http://www.lfs.org.uk/50th/archives/90s-archive/duncan_jones.php) talking about his film school experiences. It's very hard to see anything of his dad in him, except perhaps the habit of punctuating his statements with slightly mystifying -- yet charming -- immoderate laughter.

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Date: 2008-03-13 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
LOL I love how you avoided talking about your or Bowie's crotch! But you're right, I can't imagine Bowie with hair like that. Too normal and young. It seems like Bowie isn't even his dad, I imagine Duncan would have been influenced a lot by him if Bowie had stuck around.

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Date: 2008-03-13 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
But I want to seduce 15 year olds and kidnap babies :(

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Date: 2008-03-14 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
ROFL Have you seen this thread (http://imomus.livejournal.com/336041.html?thread=12881321&style=mine#t12881321) between me and Momus? This was around the time I blew up at him and refused to talk about him and it was really hard to hate him when he's being his usual creepy self. :(

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Date: 2008-03-13 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
Also, I want an excuse to shave off my eyebrows.

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Date: 2008-03-13 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhodri.livejournal.com
I'd never heard the Happy Family before, amazingly. It's interesting to hear the 22-year old you. It made me want to nervously check out the 22-year old me. But, er, I think you come off better. (http://rhodri.biz/pix2/understand.mp3)

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Date: 2008-03-13 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I don't think I come off better at all! 22 year-old you is more leftfield and avant than 22 year-old me, sort of jazzy in a Beefheart-meets-Ludus sort of way. A more creative sound in general.

I think I've got musically much more adventurous as I've got older, though, which is some sort of consolation. You know, it was only in 1998 that I really thought I'd found a style of my own! It was quite a breakthrough, that feeling. I wasn't pastiching any more.

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Date: 2008-03-13 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhodri.livejournal.com
I don't think I ever got there. I only ever wanted to be in, or be like other bands. I think that's still the case. And with the Scritti thing, hey, I've achieved it. Which is probably why I've pretty much stopped making music.

I feel all sad, now.

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Date: 2008-03-13 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Oh, you're so British and negative! You've done very well indeed, and you know it. You also know that if you ever say it out loud, British people will hate you and you'll have to move to California.

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Date: 2008-03-13 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notesfromaroom.livejournal.com
Ha! Straight up.

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Date: 2008-03-13 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psalamone.livejournal.com
Funny, "The Courier" sounds more avant and universal than a lot of the tripe coming down the pike these days...

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Date: 2008-03-13 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vonbruckhousen.livejournal.com
You did Bowie as well as Bowie did Dylan, quite.

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Date: 2008-03-13 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vonbruckhousen.livejournal.com
...long ago, thank goodness. Your modernself is superior.

Happy Family

Date: 2008-03-13 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pay-option07.livejournal.com
I still listen to the "Unreliable tour guide" from your Whitney daze. It's great for a snicker. I hit the listen (emusic.com) button and what I heard was a collection of songs from a street opera, Philosophy of Momus. Go for a theatre production even in Nihon-go. It's all there!

Re: Happy Family

Date: 2008-03-13 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Do you have a tape of it? Oh, I posted an mp3 (http://www.imomus.com/unreliabletouguide.mp3) or something here, right?

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Date: 2008-03-13 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
Oh my God, I've been searching for The Man On Your Street for ages! I looked on eBay once and there was someone selling it on vinyl, and I almost died of lust. I came back a few days later (I remember it was in an eBay store), and it was gone. :(

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Date: 2008-03-13 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
Oh, and I've always wondered about the lyric on "Shaftesbury Avenue" that says "sophisticated sister, so much better in life than me". Jealousy? What went on in that period of time? Does she know that you wrote that about her?

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Date: 2008-03-13 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Oh, that's not addressed to any actual sister, that line's to a Cantonese or Vietnamese-speaking girl glimpsed in London's Chinatown. On Gerrard Street (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=gerrard+street+london&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=11.788137,24.125977&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr), in fact.

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Date: 2008-03-13 05:47 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-03-13 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgazz.livejournal.com
I like "The Man On Your Street".

I once doubled up on reading a review that said something like: "Nick Currie's vocals are so fey they make his Momus material sound like Bon Scott by comparison".

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Date: 2008-03-13 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
That's weird, I have completely the opposite impression, I think I sound really wound up, macho and angry on this album, like I'm looking for people to blame and lash out at. Come on, I'm barking out "Take revenge!" and "Carry death!" at every possible moment! It's like a Chuck Norris film!

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Date: 2008-03-13 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intergalactim.livejournal.com
i thought you liked the scott walker album too? that's all i know about 4AD

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Date: 2008-03-13 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Oh, I totally forgot that was on 4AD! Somehow it seems too big for such a little label! But it does have a classic 4AD sleeve.

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Date: 2008-03-13 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intergalactim.livejournal.com
absolutely! it was the front page of that site that reminded me of the album - something very dark and murky, with a shadowy hint of graphic design hiding in there somewhere.

do you have any good stories from your Cure support gigs?

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Date: 2008-03-14 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Robert Smith showed me how to use his amp! And just before we went onstage we actually stood next to each other peeing in the toilet! I didn't check out his equipment, though.

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Date: 2008-03-13 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cap-scaleman.livejournal.com
Hehe, I wonder what I will sound like when I am 22, or in 22 years, or when I am 220 years.

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Date: 2008-03-14 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohayo-sakura.livejournal.com
are you old?
I didn't realise.
how old are you?
i must have been decieved by your eye patch.
it takes ten years off.
where were you in august 1983?
i was born then.
have a nice day.

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Date: 2008-03-14 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
In August 1983 I would have been in Edinburgh, just preparing to go back to Aberdeen for my final year of Eng Lit.

Vaughan Oliver

Date: 2008-03-14 12:47 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Interesting point about wanting a Vaughan Oliver sleeve - I always thought the v23 style either worked brilliantly (Colourbox, Red House Painters)or was overbearing (Pixies, Wolfgang Press). Factory's use of Johnson/Panas and 8vo as well as PSA (and latterly Central station too) was probably a good move in that Factory stuff didn't always look like Factory stuff.

Canonmills Smoker.

Still a favorite of mine

Date: 2008-03-14 08:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I always loved this album. It still gets a regular airing on playlists on my iphone. In fact I was first listening to this back in 1991 so that is where i am taken back to when I hear this. I found it at Tower Records on Kensington High Street. In fact, i got Monsters of Love from Tower Records and I think i got this from Ken Market. To me it was "Talking like entries in diaries" that resonated most with my back then. My screen name when i find to to do online gaming is Dictator Hall. The influence lingers, as does my enjoyment. I listen to it now in a hotel room in Washington now though, not on train stations where I would let trains pass so i did not have to go home.

Re: Still a favorite of mine

Date: 2008-03-14 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Amazing! Thanks to you, it lives on!

Happy Family

Date: 2008-03-18 02:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I always quite liked this album too...was always a big Josef K fan too...