Goons and coconuts round on multiculti
Jan. 17th, 2008 04:29 pmHere's Josephine Baker singing her biggest hit, J'ai Deux Amours (1931). "My savanna is beautiful," runs the lyric, "but why deny / Paris has me under its spell / To see it one day is my pretty dream / I have two loves, my country and Paris".
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Now, what's exciting about this song is a certain promiscuity -- to have two cultural loves is clearly slightly naughty, just as it is to have two loves in a sexual sense. Monocultural superpatriots with their hands on their hearts and their eyes on the flag would be confused to have to put their hands on two hearts and gaze at two flags. After all, if you can love two, why not three or four? Where does it end?
The answer is that it ends in multiculturalism. "J'ai Deux Amours" might well be the national anthem of multiculti, the idea that we should support things like multiple citizenship, multiple national and cultural loyalties, linguistic pluralism or, conversely, the right not to have to speak in one set language, the official celebration of lots of different festivals belonging to different ethnic and religious groups, a certain freedom of dress codes, subsidy for minority artforms, and so on.
That's all multiculti at the level of government policy. But if we're making Josephine Baker the ambassadrice of multiculti, and saying there's a sexy sort of miscegenating promiscuity built into the idea, what might that mean on a personal level? Well, it would mean that I might well have a lover of a different race, a lover who carried a different passport, with whom I might eventually have multiculti children, children who'd be encouraged to see their parents' two cultures (more if the parents are themselves multiculti) as equally important. It might mean that I would choose to live in a country other than the one I was born in, and feel that I had the right to retain my foreignness rather than be socialized into some kind of sameness. Above all it might be a certain idea about difference being a positive, a thing to be celebrated rather than suppressed, sought out rather than avoided, preserved rather than eroded.
This is where multiculti becomes slightly more complex. To become multiculti, I jump out of the monoculture I was born into, but I don't jump so far that I lose contact with my "savanna" altogether. Because if I lose touch with my roots, my origins, and just melt in the melting pot, difference itself is destroyed. We return to the idea of oneness, the monolithic, and the lack of respect for difference. There can, after all, be no foreignness without acknowledgment of difference, and the right to stay different. If there's a right wing threat to multiculti in the form of ethnic cleansing, patriotism and so on, there's a left wing threat to it in the idea of the melting pot; the idea that racial or cultural or national differences should become meaningless, or be deliberately ignored. An ignored difference is not a happy one.
I'm personally pretty invested in the idea of multiculti -- it's how I live. Super Collider, for instance, described life in Berlin's Japanese bubble, a place in which multiple national cultures produce cultural hybrids without losing sight of their original specificity. It would be absurd to say that the Japanese in Berlin should be forced to speak only German, or make oaths of allegiance to the German state, or be made to answer quiz questions about the history of German culture before being allowed to settle here. The point of a bubble is that it's an exotic little ecosystem within a wider one. It has walls which protect it from the prevailing environment, frail though they may be.
The idea of multiculti has been under attack since the 90s, and particularly since the November 2001 Bush speech about being either with us or against us. "Recently," says Wikipedia, "right-of-center governments in several European states—notably the Netherlands and Denmark— have reversed the national policy and returned to an official monoculturalism. A similar reversal is the subject of debate in the United
Kingdom and Germany, among others, due to evidence of incipient segregation and anxieties over 'home-grown' terrorism." Just the other day Michael Chertoff, head of the American Department of Homeland Security, said that Europe now poses the biggest threat to US security. The logic seemed to be a Eurabian one; that Europe has increasingly large numbers of increasingly non-assimilated Muslims who may wish to do the US harm. Even if you guys don't consider that a threat, Chertoff seemed to be saying, we do.
Multiculti is also being attacked from within a certain sector of the immigrant communities in Western countries -- the Coconut-Banana Sector, we could call it. Here's Saira Khan (of Pakistani origin, married to a white British businessman) speaking on BBC Radio 4's Any Questions last Friday:
"I believe that multiculturalism has completely failed in this country and I think previous governments have had a big part to play in that. And I think the thought - the way forward is integration and making people feel and understand what British values are, what it means to be British and actually embrace that. I'm not saying we don't welcome other cultures, I'm saying we must feel part of a common cause and respect common values living in Britain. [CLAPPING]".
Eric Liu published a book in which he calls himself (and other successful, integrated American-Asians) The Accidental Asian. "He is a fervent advocate of success in the mainstream," says the New York Times, "and he's not prepared to jeopardize his future by clinging to an ethnic past that was never really his own. As a result, he tends to be regarded by whites as an ''honorary white'' and by Asians as a ''banana'' (yellow on the outside, white on the inside)."
''Unlike blacks,'' Liu writes, ''Asians do not have a cultural idiom that arose from centuries of thinking of themselves as a race; unlike Jews, Asians haven't a unifying spiritual and historical legacy; unlike Latinos, another recently invented community, Asians don't have a linguistic basis for their continued apartness.'' As an avowed ''identity libertarian,'' he believes that efforts to forge a separatist, monolithic community -- in a country where most Asian-Americans under 34 are married to non-Asians -- go against the grain of logic and demography."
Now, I have the same problem with "identity libertarians" that I have with libertarianism in general; it tends to return power patterns to something rather Darwinian. Take away the walls of the bubble, the support of the community, and you're left to fend for yourself in the dominant culture. That's fine if you're an achiever like Liu.
It's interesting that people who think this way usually do well in business, and have mainstream, smiling photographs. They tend to be people who distinguish themselves from rather than in their communities of origin, and find themselves more popular with the indigenous majority than with minority communities they're seen as having betrayed. It's also worrying from the point of view of the erosion of difference, and for the fact that it basically puts immigrants on the same team as the mildly anti-immigrant rightwingers who want them to jump through ever-more-undignified loyalty hoops -- to "think and live like us". Liu clearly already does -- in his case there's not much to lose. His ethnicity is "accidental" and immaterial. He clearly feels he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by ditching his difference. Unlike sexy Josephine Baker, he has one love, not two.
I find it rather telling that the New York Times is now lauding Eric Liu's "I have basically just one love" approach. In 1936 the paper, reviewing one of Josephine Baker's few US shows, called her a "Negro wench". These days, of course, you wouldn't say that -- you'd leave the racial slurs to the immigrant community themselves (they call Liu a "banana"). But the basic message is the same. Preserving your difference, sharing your love equally between two cultures, won't do. You're either with us or against us. As the clip above points out, even Josephine Baker had to choose in the end. After her unfriendly reception in the US in the mid-30s, she started singing "my country is Paris" instead of "my country and Paris". Loving two is just too hard.
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Now, what's exciting about this song is a certain promiscuity -- to have two cultural loves is clearly slightly naughty, just as it is to have two loves in a sexual sense. Monocultural superpatriots with their hands on their hearts and their eyes on the flag would be confused to have to put their hands on two hearts and gaze at two flags. After all, if you can love two, why not three or four? Where does it end?
The answer is that it ends in multiculturalism. "J'ai Deux Amours" might well be the national anthem of multiculti, the idea that we should support things like multiple citizenship, multiple national and cultural loyalties, linguistic pluralism or, conversely, the right not to have to speak in one set language, the official celebration of lots of different festivals belonging to different ethnic and religious groups, a certain freedom of dress codes, subsidy for minority artforms, and so on.
That's all multiculti at the level of government policy. But if we're making Josephine Baker the ambassadrice of multiculti, and saying there's a sexy sort of miscegenating promiscuity built into the idea, what might that mean on a personal level? Well, it would mean that I might well have a lover of a different race, a lover who carried a different passport, with whom I might eventually have multiculti children, children who'd be encouraged to see their parents' two cultures (more if the parents are themselves multiculti) as equally important. It might mean that I would choose to live in a country other than the one I was born in, and feel that I had the right to retain my foreignness rather than be socialized into some kind of sameness. Above all it might be a certain idea about difference being a positive, a thing to be celebrated rather than suppressed, sought out rather than avoided, preserved rather than eroded.This is where multiculti becomes slightly more complex. To become multiculti, I jump out of the monoculture I was born into, but I don't jump so far that I lose contact with my "savanna" altogether. Because if I lose touch with my roots, my origins, and just melt in the melting pot, difference itself is destroyed. We return to the idea of oneness, the monolithic, and the lack of respect for difference. There can, after all, be no foreignness without acknowledgment of difference, and the right to stay different. If there's a right wing threat to multiculti in the form of ethnic cleansing, patriotism and so on, there's a left wing threat to it in the idea of the melting pot; the idea that racial or cultural or national differences should become meaningless, or be deliberately ignored. An ignored difference is not a happy one.
I'm personally pretty invested in the idea of multiculti -- it's how I live. Super Collider, for instance, described life in Berlin's Japanese bubble, a place in which multiple national cultures produce cultural hybrids without losing sight of their original specificity. It would be absurd to say that the Japanese in Berlin should be forced to speak only German, or make oaths of allegiance to the German state, or be made to answer quiz questions about the history of German culture before being allowed to settle here. The point of a bubble is that it's an exotic little ecosystem within a wider one. It has walls which protect it from the prevailing environment, frail though they may be.
The idea of multiculti has been under attack since the 90s, and particularly since the November 2001 Bush speech about being either with us or against us. "Recently," says Wikipedia, "right-of-center governments in several European states—notably the Netherlands and Denmark— have reversed the national policy and returned to an official monoculturalism. A similar reversal is the subject of debate in the United
Kingdom and Germany, among others, due to evidence of incipient segregation and anxieties over 'home-grown' terrorism." Just the other day Michael Chertoff, head of the American Department of Homeland Security, said that Europe now poses the biggest threat to US security. The logic seemed to be a Eurabian one; that Europe has increasingly large numbers of increasingly non-assimilated Muslims who may wish to do the US harm. Even if you guys don't consider that a threat, Chertoff seemed to be saying, we do.
Multiculti is also being attacked from within a certain sector of the immigrant communities in Western countries -- the Coconut-Banana Sector, we could call it. Here's Saira Khan (of Pakistani origin, married to a white British businessman) speaking on BBC Radio 4's Any Questions last Friday:"I believe that multiculturalism has completely failed in this country and I think previous governments have had a big part to play in that. And I think the thought - the way forward is integration and making people feel and understand what British values are, what it means to be British and actually embrace that. I'm not saying we don't welcome other cultures, I'm saying we must feel part of a common cause and respect common values living in Britain. [CLAPPING]".
Eric Liu published a book in which he calls himself (and other successful, integrated American-Asians) The Accidental Asian. "He is a fervent advocate of success in the mainstream," says the New York Times, "and he's not prepared to jeopardize his future by clinging to an ethnic past that was never really his own. As a result, he tends to be regarded by whites as an ''honorary white'' and by Asians as a ''banana'' (yellow on the outside, white on the inside)."
''Unlike blacks,'' Liu writes, ''Asians do not have a cultural idiom that arose from centuries of thinking of themselves as a race; unlike Jews, Asians haven't a unifying spiritual and historical legacy; unlike Latinos, another recently invented community, Asians don't have a linguistic basis for their continued apartness.'' As an avowed ''identity libertarian,'' he believes that efforts to forge a separatist, monolithic community -- in a country where most Asian-Americans under 34 are married to non-Asians -- go against the grain of logic and demography."Now, I have the same problem with "identity libertarians" that I have with libertarianism in general; it tends to return power patterns to something rather Darwinian. Take away the walls of the bubble, the support of the community, and you're left to fend for yourself in the dominant culture. That's fine if you're an achiever like Liu.
It's interesting that people who think this way usually do well in business, and have mainstream, smiling photographs. They tend to be people who distinguish themselves from rather than in their communities of origin, and find themselves more popular with the indigenous majority than with minority communities they're seen as having betrayed. It's also worrying from the point of view of the erosion of difference, and for the fact that it basically puts immigrants on the same team as the mildly anti-immigrant rightwingers who want them to jump through ever-more-undignified loyalty hoops -- to "think and live like us". Liu clearly already does -- in his case there's not much to lose. His ethnicity is "accidental" and immaterial. He clearly feels he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by ditching his difference. Unlike sexy Josephine Baker, he has one love, not two.
I find it rather telling that the New York Times is now lauding Eric Liu's "I have basically just one love" approach. In 1936 the paper, reviewing one of Josephine Baker's few US shows, called her a "Negro wench". These days, of course, you wouldn't say that -- you'd leave the racial slurs to the immigrant community themselves (they call Liu a "banana"). But the basic message is the same. Preserving your difference, sharing your love equally between two cultures, won't do. You're either with us or against us. As the clip above points out, even Josephine Baker had to choose in the end. After her unfriendly reception in the US in the mid-30s, she started singing "my country is Paris" instead of "my country and Paris". Loving two is just too hard.
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Date: 2008-01-17 03:50 pm (UTC)So relative. My land is my bed.
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Date: 2008-01-17 04:27 pm (UTC)I think children of mixed parents are the people most likely to have an inherent understanding of how ridiculous racism is, and to see it coming from both sides. It is very sad to have people forcing you to take sides, to choose.
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Date: 2008-01-17 04:40 pm (UTC)May I suggest that it is a titlation beyond that of interlocking binaries? Perhaps it is purely the embodiment of contradiction(s) that gets you hot.
For example, the heavily repressed Eastern European émigré pathos peering through the sharp, preppily assimilated veneer of my own partner is far more sexually appealing than if he were to posture as a Gogol-Bordello-stylized Multikulti moper. Yum yum.
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Date: 2008-01-17 04:54 pm (UTC)As for people who smile being traitors, that's also something I'd advocate a halfway continuum position on. Don't glower like a rap star, but don't grin like a realtor either.
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Date: 2008-01-17 07:46 pm (UTC)Which in the particular case of Mr Liu and others like him, of course, would mean that they could largely align themselves, live their lives, and find their tastes largely as they please, entirely ruining the essentialist fantasy that they owe something to the spirits of their ancestors. (O horror of horrors, that men like this would deign to think for themselves!)
But I do have to give you credit here for not being authoritarian. For as much as you profess such identity "libertarianism" (I'm not sure how I feel about this term) not to be in your tastes, you didn't show desire - or further any concrete policy ideas about how - to prevent Mr Liu and others of his sort from living according to their own. So you don't seem to be willing to build fences and walls in order to save any sort of antiquated Tintin in Africa aesthetic, where we stand around in little white helmets, drinking martinis and gawping at the exotics while denying them our TVs because it'd corrupt their gentle little savage souls. I've heard that version, and it's much, much uglier than yours.
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Date: 2008-01-17 07:55 pm (UTC)I don't see it quite that way. Power abhors a vacuum. If I relinquish the power my community and my family have over me, I allow the next-greatest power to rush in, which in most cases is the power of the market. There is no such thing as living free from someone else's power over you, there's only the choice between a set number of powers.
Mr Liu, who is a very able and bright man, was able to do well in the market. Not everybody does well in this system -- in fact, it's a real winners and losers sort of system (Darwinian) and we tend to hear, in the media, only about the people in ethnic minorities who are winners in that system. The meritocratic minority of survivors in a system which, incidentally, gets less and less meritocratic, and sets the bar dividing winners from losers ever-higher.
Actually, if you check his podcast (http://www.psychjourney.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=206671) Eric Liu is very even-handed about what he's gained and what he's lost by becoming merely-accidentally Asian. He regrets very much the loss of his Chinese language skills, and other aspects of Chineseness. He sees his father (1st gen Chinese) being much better grounded than he himself is.
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Date: 2008-01-17 11:37 pm (UTC)"Multiculti is also being attacked from within a certain sector of the immigrant communities in Western countries (quotes Saira Khan):
"I believe that multiculturalism has completely failed in this country and I think previous governments have had a big part to play in that. And I think the thought - the way forward is integration and making people feel and understand what British values are, what it means to be British and actually embrace that. I'm not saying we don't welcome other cultures, I'm saying we must feel part of a common cause and respect common values living in Britain. [CLAPPING]".
It's also worrying from the point of view of the erosion of difference, and for the fact that it basically puts immigrants on the same team as the mildly anti-immigrant rightwingers..."
Youre wrong because you're interpreting British values (and American) as something that they're not.
How could "multiculti" have been attacked in that speech when the very values shes advocating, British values, are "multi-culti"? It's very obvious, from the fact Khan is a Pakistani in Britian, that she's advocating the respect and acceptance of cultural difference you're advocating yourself. Britian is a "live and let live" society, a multicultural society that sees everyone as equal regardless of the differences. "Integration" means respecting those values hence why she says "multiculturalism has failed". What she's opposed to are these small groups of minorities who want to live here and enjoy our economy whilst discriminating against those who aren't the same race as them, or the same religion -- the sort of families who wouldnt let their daughters marry a white man or deviate from their own culture without disowning them. You cant possibly be advocating that.
There no widespread support of the BNP in Britain. They're an example of a tiny faction getting huge amounts of publicity because they represent what everyone fears. The BNP are the flipside to the minorities who want to separate people based on what they see as respecting and retaining culture. You dont support that when it's presented by the BNP, and you shouldnt support it when its displayed by minorities.
"Take away the walls of the bubble, the support of the community, and you're left to fend for yourself in the dominant culture."
Youre trying to portray the mainstream unfairly. Youre portraying the "bubble" as a supportive element and the dominant culture as a harsh enviroment. They're both as harsh as each other -- they both require a level of conformity to fit in. As for whether Bubbles go against logic and democricy, I dont believe so. As long as individuals are happy and not repressed or repressing others, who cares.
" Preserving your difference, sharing your love equally between two cultures, won't do. You're either with us or against us."
Theres a thin line between "preserving your culture" and cutting yourself off from the wider community and discriminating against the wider community. Youre confusing these.
I also think youre a bit of hypocrite in some ways. Why arent you attending British/Scottish events in Germany? Mingling with the British/Scottish community to maintain your Britishness? Why are you not taking Gàidhlig classes?
Id also like to end this by saying I define myself first and foremost as an individual because I'm not a list of stereotypes. I dont see why I should be chasing what it is to be English or gay or white if it doesnt make me happy. the only thing Im interested in is being myself and being allowed to express that in my society. Anything thats opposed to that, im opposed to.
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Date: 2008-01-18 01:43 am (UTC)She's saying it's completely failed. She's not fighting for it, she's taking as a given -- and a starting point for something else -- the fact (as she sees it) that it's over. And that something else is "feeling part of a common cause and respecting common values". Although she uses the word "integration" for this, it's clear she means assimilation. Integration is when different kinds of people accept each other for what they are, no changes necessarily required. Assimilation is where everyone is forced to act, live, think and feel in the same way. When you talk about "common values", that's what you're implying. People's habitus, their belief systems, have to converge because you don't tolerate diversity.
Now, if you're trying to say something like "She wants people to adopt British values, but they already have British values because whatever anyone who lives in Britain values is British values, so she just wants them to be themselves, warts and all", then congratulations: you just created a tautology. But you didn't paraphrase what Khan was saying. I mean, why would she even bother talking about "British values" if they were just whatever anyone with a British passport wanted them to be? Wishing don't make it so.
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Date: 2008-01-18 02:07 am (UTC)Right now I'm less than optimistic. Not a few Arabic countries -- and arguably also Iran, that multicultural giant of the Middle East trying desperately to live around its own ideology -- have this problem where their scientific curricula are top notch (or at least good) but their humanities departments are complete crap
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Date: 2008-01-18 03:01 am (UTC)"I'm saying we must feel part of a common cause and respect common values living in Britain."
here it's a question of direction to me. do we say, well, the past dictates that britain is THIS, so you must become THIS. or do we say, well, what is britain? what is its history, and what do you feel you'd like to bring to britain which benefits the whole, not only your community?
am i being very naive to say, well, let's create a britain or america or france, etc., which works towards this goal, rather than from this tradition?
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Date: 2008-01-18 12:30 pm (UTC)Interesting point, but It depends on how the culture you live in perceives multiculturalism. For most Canadians like myself, the "melting pot" is an essentailly American thing, whereas we grew up on the concept of the "mosaic" as an ethic when it comes to respecting other cultures, and to distinguish ourselves from our rowdy neighbours downstairs. The mosiac is about honoring and respecting all of the different and contingent parts that make up a whole (or at least that's what I was brought up on)while the "melting pot" is tied into a uniquely American metanarrative.
Wow, I just used "metanarrative". Neat. All of this artsy book-learning I'm doing is paying off!
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Date: 2008-01-18 01:58 pm (UTC)That being said, I feel very lucky to be living in Toronto at the moment. The imagined multiculti family in the post essentially describes my own.
My Children are able to step in and out of their Japanese cultural "bubble"
while at the same time enjoying the richness of their classmates doing the same.
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