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Music artists often say that -- like the sexist Christian God creating Eve from a single rib of Adam -- they become fascinated by a song from their last album and build the next on it. I've never been quite that tidy an artist -- my albums tend to start with clear intentions, but end up all over the place -- but if there were a song on Ocky Milk (2006) that might predict what its successor (2008) album will sound and feel like, it's probably "the big ballad", Nervous Heartbeat. Not just because of the splash it made -- reaching Stylus' Top 50 Singles of 2006 list without even being issued as a single! -- but because it did something songs do better than anything else I know; it moved people by touching on a universal emotion ("When will I see you again?").

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The different things I do -- blogging, novel-writing, journalism, performance art -- can often do the things I used to do in songs (social commentary, trend-watching, experiment) better than songs ever could. Because I do these other things, my songs are free to do what they do best. And -- the way I see it right now, anyway -- that's to move us with huge, moving melodies and massively obvious, universal human themes. Of love, of tenderness, of longing, of loss, of memory, of emotion. The more different things I do, the more I focus on that aspect of songs -- their most conservative aspect, certainly, but also their most powerful. Hence the enka stuff I was doing on Ocky Milk; for me, always hyper-critical of my own culture and its mainstream, it's much easier to edge into universal themes via someone else's culture, someone else's mainstream.

But, since "the past is a foreign country; they do things differently there", the West's past is also a place I can draw inspiration from. There are songs in the West's past that can move me deeply, songs that touch universal emotions with supreme elegance. Some of them are incredibly mainstream, embarrassingly so. For instance, the song I've been most obsessed by, and listened to the most over the past month, is a very old one (but new to me): "The Next Time", sung by Cliff Richard in the film Summer Holiday. Something about this clip, with Cliff on a solitary walk through Athens, mourning a love affair that's now "ancient history" with the Acropolis behind him, is deeply, divinely compelling for me. Of course it's wrapped up with the fact that I lived in -- and loved -- Athens when I was a kid. But it's also the internal properties of the song; that utterly mysterious thing which makes certain combinations of words and chords so much more affecting than others, and click with us on the deepest level when others don't.

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Another song that does this for me is Harry Belafonte's amazingly haunting reading, in 1966, of "Try To Remember". His phrasing is so out of joint with the chords that it starts to resemble some of the weird trip-ups we edited into the song "Permagasm" on my last album, where we tried to balance emotion and estrangement by laying the vocal in the wrong places and cross-fading between different mixes. But it's the backing vocal in the Belafonte song -- is it a theremin? a sentimental robot? -- that really slays, underpinning the song's spiraling chords and schizoid, spooky morbidity with pure terror-tingle. This wistful tenderness for a distant life can only come from beyond the grave. Beauty's just the first glimpse of terror.

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Finally, here's a video someone's made for one of my favourite Leonard Cohen songs, "Take This Longing". I'll be on a plane later today, crossing the Alps, heading with Hisae to Venice to catch the last few days of the Biennale. I doubt the experience will be quite this lyrical, though.

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Date: 2007-11-16 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgazz.livejournal.com
"move us with huge, moving melodies and massively obvious, universal human themes. Of love, of tenderness, of longing, of loss, of memory, of emotion."

The idea of you going in a Flaming Lips direction excites me majorly :)

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Date: 2007-11-16 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Screw minnows like the Flaming Lips, I'm talking about Cliff Richard here! The King!

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Date: 2007-11-16 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgazz.livejournal.com
And you're both big fans of the pentatonic scale although, admittedly, only he uses prayers about the "sexist Christian God" as lyrics ;-)

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Date: 2007-11-16 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But Momus was doing the whole Japanese things YEARS ahead of time.

Congratulations"- Cliff Richard

Date: 2007-11-17 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pay-option07.livejournal.com
Seems more like a guest spot for the Lawrence Welk, but a definite nostalgic Brit pop climax.

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Date: 2007-11-16 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realrealgone.livejournal.com
someday, I must sit down and spend proper quality time with your blog. like, hours/days... there have been some real interesting things recently that I feel deserve my attention. but like so many, I suspect, I surf briefly at work break-time and then never get a chance to go back and properly take it in before the LJ sushi-belt has moved on.

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Date: 2007-11-16 11:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I agree with this post.

Love ballads are photos of kittens

Date: 2007-11-16 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
I want you to watch this video. Watch it a few times:



This is my graphical interpretation of those 4 minutes and 7 seconds. Infact this is my graphical interpretation of emotionally charged love ballads period:

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I reached out and touched those kittens, and jesus, they felt SO. FUCKING. GOOD. I ran straight home, practically kicked the door off its hinges and shouted "OMG Mum, Dad, get in the car. We're going to the pet shop to buy kittens RIGHT FUCKING NOW."

Pictures of kittens are nice. Kittens are nice.

That said, pictures of kittens, and kittens in and of themselves are absolutely nothing like actually owning a cat.

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This is my cat Satchmo. She's 14 years old, which makes her a bit of an old girl in human years. She has arthritis in her back legs and she's a bit senile, she doesn't always know where she is. As you can see, she's not as photogenic as the kittens above and she dribbles on the duvet covers.

The point I'm trying to make is, photos of kittens, as nice as they are, stop representing for me what it is to own a cat at some point. Sure, my cat Satchmo was a kitten once, she was very cute. Photos of kittens remind me of that, but after a while I just stop relating my cat to those depictions.

This isnt necessarily about lack of authenticity or anti-tweeness; it's about limitations, Its about photos of kittens not being able to express what it is to actually own a cat.

Re: Love ballads are photos of kittens

Date: 2007-11-18 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peacelovgranola.livejournal.com
indeed; it's interesting that photographs can actually enact or illicit the opposite of their purpose: they fail to represent or capture something.

reminds me of another idea, (i think it was from george steiner), something like, "can music lie?"

Re: Love ballads are photos of kittens

Date: 2007-11-16 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alphacomp.livejournal.com
Haven't you done this, though? With things like "Murderers, The Hope of Women" and "Rhetoric" and such?

Traditionalism, using "massively obvious, universal human themes" and "huge, moving melodies" seems like such an inevitable musician's trap--something that you yourself would have avoided a few years ago.

Don't listen to me, though; I probably wouldn't have said anything to this effect if you wrote "I want to sound like the Pet Shop Boys again".

Re: Love ballads are photos of kittens

Date: 2007-11-16 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alphacomp.livejournal.com
Hm- the previous thing wasn't meant to be a response to that comment, but it does kinda work in context?

Re: Love ballads are photos of kittens

Date: 2007-11-16 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
We're possibly on the same line.

I dont necessarily have a problem tradition musical depictions of love, I just find them limited. It's not about a lack of authenticity, it's about their focus on only one aspect of love that leaves me feeling unable to relate to them. It's like mainstream depicitions of love are constantly stuck in juvenile mode. It's an obsession with the honeymoon period, with youth, with sensationalism. "My flames are burning, I'm yearning".

I remember reading a manga about an elderly couple, it was just about their daily life in rural Japan. It was an "only in Japan" sort of comic, something you would never see published in the west. The stories were about meaningless things like their grand kids coming to visit and stuff, occasionally it would touch upon existentialist themes, but subtly and without fanfare.

I think it was supposed evoke feelings of nostalgia in its readers, It was a typical "slice of life" manga (there are lots of these types of mangas published in Japan), but it was untypical in that it depicted the everyday life and love of an elderly couple.

Re: Love ballads are photos of kittens

Date: 2007-11-16 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alphacomp.livejournal.com
Agreed; IMO, sometimes universal themes are nice when one pulls in on it, focuses on its many overlooked, kind of mundane-yet-not-really facets and makes a big ol' sphere out of something previously rendered 1- or even 2-dimensionally by millions of other people.

Still, though, I kind of feel like the Momus character has done that already?

Re: Love ballads are photos of kittens

Date: 2007-11-16 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Exactly, Momus already went down this path. Melody and harmony are not the basic elements of listenable music, they are merely one "route" that an artist can take at a certain moment of their career for artistic effect, like using gated reverb.

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Date: 2007-11-16 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trufflesniffer.livejournal.com
I think I read that the story that "Eve came from Adam's Rib" was the result of a mistranslation of 'Side' for 'Rib'. Thus a creation myth that used to assert "that the sexes are equal but different" (though got the progeny order wrong) because one which asserted "that males are greater than females".

I don't know if this is connected to Roman Emperors converting to Christiantity then giving the Bible a big patriarchal 'edit'...

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Date: 2007-11-16 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
No, it´s more to do with the fact that the Bible was translated into koinei (simplified Greek) before it was translated into Latin.

And basically, koinei isn´t a very subtle language (we translated the Bible in second year Ancient Greek), so a lot was lost in translation.

Then the Latin used for the Medieval bibles was also wonky, so the text most rules are based on is basically completely different from the ´original´.

Obviously, since theologists have started to study Hebrew since the late 18th century, and our knowledge of Ancient Greek and different dialects of Latin has improved we should have better translations now, but crazy fundamentalists stand in the way of renewing translations.

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Date: 2007-11-16 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Momus does Will Oldham...
Pitchfork is going to love you in 08.

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Date: 2007-11-16 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
The different things I do -- blogging, novel-writing, journalism, performance art -- can often do the things I used to do in songs (social commentary, trend-watching, experiment) better than songs ever could.

Yes, but will the things you do- blogging, novel-writing, etc.- be remembered as much as your songs? Will people reading this entry remember it in 5 years? I probably won't.

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Date: 2007-11-16 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I agree it is the "songs that will be remembered" to paraphrase Green. Your blog is a kind of sketchbook that feeds into everything you do. Ultimately. the music is the thing that best embodies what you do precisley because it can convey the emotion that a lot of your writing can't ( especially as it is analytical and the music come from a more intuitive area). Do you think that "the conventional is now experimental" having explored the glitchy, spooky style of the last trlogy of albums?

Richard

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Date: 2007-11-16 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That of course is the question, I like Nick's blog and reading about his other activities but it is as a songwriter - a hugely undervalued songwriter - that I afford him the most kudos.
Thomas S.

preciousss

Date: 2007-11-16 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
Aye, the LJ is entertaining enough, but my copy of Hippopotamomus I shall guard like Gollum did the one ring for the rest of my life.

Re: preciousss

Date: 2007-11-16 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You have to doff your hat to a songwriter who pens a ditty on a wicked, interloping, onanistic monkey that enjoys hard rock and playing the hurdy gurdy.
Thomas S.

yeeess

Date: 2007-11-16 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
Or spam his LJ with macros. It´s 50/50 really.

Did someone say spam?

Date: 2007-11-17 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
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Date: 2007-11-17 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
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welcome to my g-spot??!

Date: 2007-11-17 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
LOL I R A BEAUTIFUL INDIVIDUAL WHAT CAUSES HARD-ONS. Where´s my freaking kevin ayers icon when I need it :(

Re: welcome to my g-spot??!

Date: 2007-11-17 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
So whenever we're being bitches to Momus, he gets a hard-on! Let's be nice to him for a while and see what happens. He'll probably get blue balls.

Re: preciousss

Date: 2007-11-17 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] microworlds.livejournal.com
As with my vinyl copy of Voyager!

Barry White meets John Cage

Date: 2007-11-16 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think that emotional universality has been in your lexicon - if at times sublimated - for quite some time, songs such as Rhetoric, Landrover and Breathless of Timelord come to mind, and Suicide Pact takes a twist on it also.
Perhaps these themes are 'conservative' in essence, they certainly are the vertebrae of most music in the 'song' format - everything from bombastic rock ballads to Schubert's lieder.
Your treatment - musically and lyrically - of these subjects comparative to most songs in the pop idiom is however quite uniquely compelling and evocative, there's nothing hidebound in Nervous Heartbeat.
Have to admit I do like some those venom-tinged opuses of yore though, society needs songs like Vogue Bambini!
Thomas Scott.


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Date: 2007-11-16 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] butterflyrobert.livejournal.com
Momus: the new King of Pop! (and I mean this in an affectionate way).

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Date: 2007-11-16 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akabe.livejournal.com
if you could generalize, what have japanese people been thinking about nervous heartbeat ??

nice to see you want to go in that direction.
(still think zanzibar's the true masterpiece though)

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Date: 2007-11-17 12:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm sorry, it's irritating me like sand in the eye. Who said this (or something very like it):

"Beauty's just the first glimpse of terror"?

Relates to ideas of sublime etc but seems especially familiar. Thank you in advance.

i am a human below

Date: 2007-11-17 01:12 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I would also like to register a hypersensitive complaint, how Schizoid of me, to the effect that 'Schizoid' by no means necessarily entails 'spooky morbidity' (speaking as a person of the Schizoid persuasion).

My morbidity is actually very friendly and welcoming. Whats spooky is where Momus/Currie (dissociative split perhaps) finds time for his miscellaneous culture adventures. I'm not saying he only sleeps two hours a night like Mrs Thatcher and drinks the rich blood of Japanese nubiles. Im just saying.

Re: i am a human below

Date: 2007-11-17 11:43 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's a quote of German poet Rainer Rilke - Momus used it in his song "Philosophy of Momus" of the same-titled album.

Re: i am a human below

Date: 2007-11-17 11:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sorry, I meant to reply to the post above.

Re: i am a human below

Date: 2007-11-17 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you.

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Date: 2007-11-17 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] funazushi.livejournal.com
I really enjoyed your musically selections. I instinctively went to some early Dionne Warwick, Bacharach/David songs. They share the same simple melodies with those universal themes. Incidently, a photographer friend gave me a lovely portrait of Leonard Cohen. My friend told me that after the shoot Cohen made him an excellent Montreal smoked meat sandwich.

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Date: 2007-11-17 01:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The Cliff clip is tremendous, I've always liked that song and indeed the movie it was taken from. You should rent the DVD of Summer Holiday, Momus! It is great fun.

Danny Baker, of all people, has been playing 'The Next Time' a lot on his radio show recently. He reckons that they should sell Cliff-style string vests at the Acropolis gift shop.

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Date: 2007-11-17 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com


Gladys, empress of soul. Can't imagine my Philly/Atlantic City childhood without this stuff. I wanted to be a Pip so damn bad when I was a kid.

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Date: 2007-11-17 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com


I'd gladly shine Smokey's shoes--man was a god in my house. This one still gives me chills. There's aching beauty, but something ghostly, sad and even eerie in it.

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Date: 2007-11-17 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
The first single I ever owned. Note the second half when they pull out the stops. I'd love to see a contemporary indie act embrace this level of showmanship. Incredible.

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Date: 2007-11-17 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here is a bit from Jim O'rourkes perfect sound interview,

PSF: A quote of yours- 'Music is not critical of itself at all' How so? Does your work try to go against this?

Well, it's not 'critical' in the sense that it takes a the meaning of it's gestures for granted. If you REALLY wanted to scare somebody, wouldn't you find a new way to do it? Or else it's 'Whew, it was only the cat!'

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Date: 2008-04-11 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-vronsky.livejournal.com
" like the sexist Christian God creating Eve from a single rib of Adam"

or perhaps an artistic, creative god in perfect control of his materials saying look, I have made something good, now I will make something even more wonderful! ;-)