What's over?
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imomusI've always been a rather extreme and judgemental person, someone who pays more attention to change than to continuity. One result is that I have very firm opinions on what's essentially over. Things that have, for other people, centuries of validity stretching in front of them are, for me, already dead as dodos. They may cling on for decades, they may peter out slowly. But as far as I'm concerned, they're over. They no longer warrant serious attention. They're basically retro. This is useful, because it frees me up to concentrate on the things I think aren't over. Today I thought I'd list the things I feel, instinctively, are over now. And the things that -- in some cases surprisingly -- aren't.
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Rock Music: I decided rock music was over in about 1983. Which is odd, since that's the year classic-format rock music "came back" (U2's chiming chords obliterated the New Romantics with their synths, the Human League made a record about Lebanon with guitars in it, Eno ditched ambient to become a rock producer). But I was right. Basic-format rock music has been "coming back" since then at regular intervals (The Strokes, The White Stripes, Lightning Bolt). That doesn't mean it isn't over. It just means it's stubborn. People playing guitars, and other people thinking that's incredibly important, is over. You can tell that when you watch the highly viral YouTube videos of StSanders. I first saw these on Rhodri's page, then Toog's. StSanders has removed the original sound from concerts and substituted his own plausible yet pathetic sounds -- Ozzy Osbourne clapping, Jake E. Lee twangling impotently on an unamplified guitar. Watching them, you feel like someone who's woken up from a foolish adolescent dream. You feel like the gatefold emperor is finally naked. And you feel like the digital age (editing, YouTube, viral memes) is poking fun at another era, one it's entirely supplanted.
Popular Music: Okay, rock music is over and the internet dances on its cheesecloth grave, crying with mirth. But what about popular music in general? I'm not quite so sure about this, but I think it's over too. For a start, young people aren't interested in music CDs now. Manning a market stall this summer, trying to flog old CDs I no longer had any use for, I found that it wasn't just me; nobody had any use for them. There was interest in the DVDs and computer games, but not in the music CDs. And especially not from anyone under 30. CDs (and vinyl albums more charismatically before them) were us, but they aren't any more. As for mp3s, well, ubiquity is the abyss. Look at this artistically, too. There's been a brain drain. No longer will the most talented creative brains of their generation be headhunted by popular music, as might have been the case thirty years ago. My nephew -- who's remarkably similar to a 90s-born me -- wants to make computer games, not pop records.
Television: When did I first notice that television is over? Six or seven years ago, on a trip back to my hometown of Edinburgh. I was walking at night along the Georgian terraces, looking in people's astragaled windows. When I actually lived in Edinburgh and walked around at night, I'd see people sitting at home watching TV. But since the turn of the century what I see is people sitting at their computers. Because I don't go back home often, it just seemed to happen overnight. Bang! People switched off TV and switched on computers. Personally, I watch almost no television now. When I do watch it I find it completely unbearable. Most of it is the fast-edit promo fluff they run between shows, and the edits get faster all the time. You'll see 80 or 90 fast-edited ultra-dramatic moments packed into a few seconds, people getting axes through their heads or breaking up their relationships, and this is meant to draw you in. In fact it does the opposite. It sends you to the internet, which by and large gives you what you want when you want it. Television, in the age of interactivity, feels like a bully's bludgeon. And the bully is all the worse for knowing he's essentially over.
Telephones: I realise that not many people will agree with me here, but as far as I'm concerned telephones are totally over. The basic flaw in the telephone (which probably seemed like a good idea at the time) is that it interrupts you (and everybody else in range). It's an interrupting machine. It allows people to talk to you without their bodies being present, but doesn't allow you to do much about when and where they interrupt. Sure, calls can be recorded, screened, put on hold. But if you're doing all that, why not deal with voice traffic, or communication in general, via the internet? Telephones of all kinds are amazingly annoying, and telephone companies are horrible. The telephone is over. I ditched my last mobile in 2003. I only have a landline now because it comes free with my internet subscription.
Cars: Yet another monster of the 20th century that, as far as I'm concerned, has bitten the dust. Cars are possibly the most evil thing man has ever invented. They destroy all the places they touch by making everywhere irrelevant scenery on a transit corridor. We now realize they're destroying the planet too, melting the polar ice caps with their emissions. They cause oil wars. They magnify selfishness and make anyone who drives them into a snappy asshole. They clog up cities and show us, when we drive, only the ugliest bits of them. They've added to the sum of human misanthropy. They kill wildlife, turning it into roadkill. Their effect on urban planning has been appalling -- suburbs and malls and sprawl. Traffic in cities now moves as slowly as horses did. There's no point taking your car because you'll get all stressed, won't be able to read on the way, and won't find a place to park when you arrive. Use public transport; cars are over. What's more, they know they're over. You can tell this because, although they're still everywhere, cars want to be invisible. They all have the same design. Where once they came in vivid colours and represented "freedom", now they come in metallic non-colours (and, occasionally, red) and the ads for them try, pathetically, guiltily, to invoke ethics and the environment. Which, of course, is like a Borgia stressing religious duty and the need to be kind.
Democracy: Sadly, democracy is basically over. It's been replaced by shopping, travel, art -- everything, really. It's melted away. I haven't voted in a national election since the 80s. And if I had, would a thing have changed? When you can't really slip a cigarette paper between the parties? (Which reminds me, smoking is over too. Somebody tell Tokyoites and Berliners!) When you can't trust the Diebold voting machines (they count backwards in some counties)? When votable politics is all about the managerial allocation of budget and the enabling of commerce, ie terribly dull and (g)local? When you can hop onto a plane and be, within minutes, in a completely different political environment which is essentially exactly the same as the one you left (because they too have to deal with multinational companies and multinational individuals like yourself)? When what happens in Europe depends on what happens in America, and we Europeans can't vote there or, it seems, do much to change the American psyche? When undemocratic China seems set to be the 21st century's dominant power? I don't say -- at all -- that we should cease to be political. I'm an intensely political person. It's just that voting once every few years is such a pathetic expression of the political that it's laughable. I'm doing something much more political right now when I tell you what I think is over.
What else is over? America is basically over, as an evangelical template for the rest of the world. America in the future will be a place, a flavour, an accent, rather than "a destination for all of mankind". It will be specific rather than universal, off to the side rather than in the middle, a possible destination for some rather than an inevitable one for all. Books are basically over -- and I say this as someone who's only now got around to writing one. Nobody has the time to read books. There just isn't that much silence in the world, that much freedom from distraction. Wildlife is over; species are dying off at an alarming rate. We need to preserve the DNA of every living thing, at the very least. But living wild, unaffected by humans -- forget it. You're in a zoo or you're extinct. What's more, nobody seems to care. Winter is over -- there's no more snow on the Alps, no more cold snaps, the major powers rush to claim the mineral resources of the Arctic and Antarctic because soon -- much sooner than we predicted -- they'll just be rock. Fresh water passages open up from the Atlantic to the Pacific, over the pole.
What isn't over? There are things you think ought to be over, if cars, democracy, telephones and television are. And yet they survive and even thrive. For instance, rock and pop music may be over, but live concerts aren't. In an age where we want and need pretexts to come face-to-face with other human beings, concerts and conferences, sports events and art biennials provide the perfect excuse. And, while cars may be finished, planes aren't. Planes cover the kind of distances that matter increasingly as the world shrinks. Bicycles also aren't over: our bodies need them. Our legs will wither away if we don't use them. And there are few things more exhilarating than zooming along just above the ground on a bicycle frame. Television may be over save a billion YouTube retro glimpses at its best moments, but radio isn't; it's a medium that talks to you as you walk around the house, tells you things in a reassuring voice even when you're alone. Newspapers are over as paper things, but not as "viewspapers" -- clusters of opinion and analysis. Video looked like it might replace still photography in the early 90s, but, for my money, it's still photography which will win, because memories are much better represented by a still image than a jerky video sequence that sort of pans and zooms ineptly across something. Video formats come and go, but photographs endure. Unique one-off handmade stuff made by artists, potters, architects and amateurs may seem threatened by mass manufacturing and digital artifacts, but the replicable, in fact, only enhances the unique; one-off handmade stuff will continue to increase in value. Communism and socialism (not necessarily in "democratic" forms) looked like they died at the end of the 80s, but they'll be back because they embody the antidote to concentrations of wealth, which certainly aren't over. And religion, which should have been over centuries ago, won't go away any time soon. As long as pain, perplexity and death persist, so will the names of gods.
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Rock Music: I decided rock music was over in about 1983. Which is odd, since that's the year classic-format rock music "came back" (U2's chiming chords obliterated the New Romantics with their synths, the Human League made a record about Lebanon with guitars in it, Eno ditched ambient to become a rock producer). But I was right. Basic-format rock music has been "coming back" since then at regular intervals (The Strokes, The White Stripes, Lightning Bolt). That doesn't mean it isn't over. It just means it's stubborn. People playing guitars, and other people thinking that's incredibly important, is over. You can tell that when you watch the highly viral YouTube videos of StSanders. I first saw these on Rhodri's page, then Toog's. StSanders has removed the original sound from concerts and substituted his own plausible yet pathetic sounds -- Ozzy Osbourne clapping, Jake E. Lee twangling impotently on an unamplified guitar. Watching them, you feel like someone who's woken up from a foolish adolescent dream. You feel like the gatefold emperor is finally naked. And you feel like the digital age (editing, YouTube, viral memes) is poking fun at another era, one it's entirely supplanted.
Popular Music: Okay, rock music is over and the internet dances on its cheesecloth grave, crying with mirth. But what about popular music in general? I'm not quite so sure about this, but I think it's over too. For a start, young people aren't interested in music CDs now. Manning a market stall this summer, trying to flog old CDs I no longer had any use for, I found that it wasn't just me; nobody had any use for them. There was interest in the DVDs and computer games, but not in the music CDs. And especially not from anyone under 30. CDs (and vinyl albums more charismatically before them) were us, but they aren't any more. As for mp3s, well, ubiquity is the abyss. Look at this artistically, too. There's been a brain drain. No longer will the most talented creative brains of their generation be headhunted by popular music, as might have been the case thirty years ago. My nephew -- who's remarkably similar to a 90s-born me -- wants to make computer games, not pop records.Television: When did I first notice that television is over? Six or seven years ago, on a trip back to my hometown of Edinburgh. I was walking at night along the Georgian terraces, looking in people's astragaled windows. When I actually lived in Edinburgh and walked around at night, I'd see people sitting at home watching TV. But since the turn of the century what I see is people sitting at their computers. Because I don't go back home often, it just seemed to happen overnight. Bang! People switched off TV and switched on computers. Personally, I watch almost no television now. When I do watch it I find it completely unbearable. Most of it is the fast-edit promo fluff they run between shows, and the edits get faster all the time. You'll see 80 or 90 fast-edited ultra-dramatic moments packed into a few seconds, people getting axes through their heads or breaking up their relationships, and this is meant to draw you in. In fact it does the opposite. It sends you to the internet, which by and large gives you what you want when you want it. Television, in the age of interactivity, feels like a bully's bludgeon. And the bully is all the worse for knowing he's essentially over.
Telephones: I realise that not many people will agree with me here, but as far as I'm concerned telephones are totally over. The basic flaw in the telephone (which probably seemed like a good idea at the time) is that it interrupts you (and everybody else in range). It's an interrupting machine. It allows people to talk to you without their bodies being present, but doesn't allow you to do much about when and where they interrupt. Sure, calls can be recorded, screened, put on hold. But if you're doing all that, why not deal with voice traffic, or communication in general, via the internet? Telephones of all kinds are amazingly annoying, and telephone companies are horrible. The telephone is over. I ditched my last mobile in 2003. I only have a landline now because it comes free with my internet subscription.
Cars: Yet another monster of the 20th century that, as far as I'm concerned, has bitten the dust. Cars are possibly the most evil thing man has ever invented. They destroy all the places they touch by making everywhere irrelevant scenery on a transit corridor. We now realize they're destroying the planet too, melting the polar ice caps with their emissions. They cause oil wars. They magnify selfishness and make anyone who drives them into a snappy asshole. They clog up cities and show us, when we drive, only the ugliest bits of them. They've added to the sum of human misanthropy. They kill wildlife, turning it into roadkill. Their effect on urban planning has been appalling -- suburbs and malls and sprawl. Traffic in cities now moves as slowly as horses did. There's no point taking your car because you'll get all stressed, won't be able to read on the way, and won't find a place to park when you arrive. Use public transport; cars are over. What's more, they know they're over. You can tell this because, although they're still everywhere, cars want to be invisible. They all have the same design. Where once they came in vivid colours and represented "freedom", now they come in metallic non-colours (and, occasionally, red) and the ads for them try, pathetically, guiltily, to invoke ethics and the environment. Which, of course, is like a Borgia stressing religious duty and the need to be kind.
Democracy: Sadly, democracy is basically over. It's been replaced by shopping, travel, art -- everything, really. It's melted away. I haven't voted in a national election since the 80s. And if I had, would a thing have changed? When you can't really slip a cigarette paper between the parties? (Which reminds me, smoking is over too. Somebody tell Tokyoites and Berliners!) When you can't trust the Diebold voting machines (they count backwards in some counties)? When votable politics is all about the managerial allocation of budget and the enabling of commerce, ie terribly dull and (g)local? When you can hop onto a plane and be, within minutes, in a completely different political environment which is essentially exactly the same as the one you left (because they too have to deal with multinational companies and multinational individuals like yourself)? When what happens in Europe depends on what happens in America, and we Europeans can't vote there or, it seems, do much to change the American psyche? When undemocratic China seems set to be the 21st century's dominant power? I don't say -- at all -- that we should cease to be political. I'm an intensely political person. It's just that voting once every few years is such a pathetic expression of the political that it's laughable. I'm doing something much more political right now when I tell you what I think is over.
What else is over? America is basically over, as an evangelical template for the rest of the world. America in the future will be a place, a flavour, an accent, rather than "a destination for all of mankind". It will be specific rather than universal, off to the side rather than in the middle, a possible destination for some rather than an inevitable one for all. Books are basically over -- and I say this as someone who's only now got around to writing one. Nobody has the time to read books. There just isn't that much silence in the world, that much freedom from distraction. Wildlife is over; species are dying off at an alarming rate. We need to preserve the DNA of every living thing, at the very least. But living wild, unaffected by humans -- forget it. You're in a zoo or you're extinct. What's more, nobody seems to care. Winter is over -- there's no more snow on the Alps, no more cold snaps, the major powers rush to claim the mineral resources of the Arctic and Antarctic because soon -- much sooner than we predicted -- they'll just be rock. Fresh water passages open up from the Atlantic to the Pacific, over the pole.
What isn't over? There are things you think ought to be over, if cars, democracy, telephones and television are. And yet they survive and even thrive. For instance, rock and pop music may be over, but live concerts aren't. In an age where we want and need pretexts to come face-to-face with other human beings, concerts and conferences, sports events and art biennials provide the perfect excuse. And, while cars may be finished, planes aren't. Planes cover the kind of distances that matter increasingly as the world shrinks. Bicycles also aren't over: our bodies need them. Our legs will wither away if we don't use them. And there are few things more exhilarating than zooming along just above the ground on a bicycle frame. Television may be over save a billion YouTube retro glimpses at its best moments, but radio isn't; it's a medium that talks to you as you walk around the house, tells you things in a reassuring voice even when you're alone. Newspapers are over as paper things, but not as "viewspapers" -- clusters of opinion and analysis. Video looked like it might replace still photography in the early 90s, but, for my money, it's still photography which will win, because memories are much better represented by a still image than a jerky video sequence that sort of pans and zooms ineptly across something. Video formats come and go, but photographs endure. Unique one-off handmade stuff made by artists, potters, architects and amateurs may seem threatened by mass manufacturing and digital artifacts, but the replicable, in fact, only enhances the unique; one-off handmade stuff will continue to increase in value. Communism and socialism (not necessarily in "democratic" forms) looked like they died at the end of the 80s, but they'll be back because they embody the antidote to concentrations of wealth, which certainly aren't over. And religion, which should have been over centuries ago, won't go away any time soon. As long as pain, perplexity and death persist, so will the names of gods.
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Date: 2007-11-06 08:04 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-11-06 08:08 am (UTC)You keep overgeneralizing things over and over again. Most of the albums of yours that I have have been bought. There was a study that said downloading music frequently increases album sales. Stop to think, "does microworlds do this?" because the things you're overgeneralizing about don't apply to me AT ALL, yet you assume they do because of my age, my nationality, etc.
sry for talking about you in the third person, but then you do the same to us
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Date: 2007-11-06 08:27 am (UTC)-drinking alone in Portland
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Date: 2007-11-06 08:45 am (UTC)What's definitely not over are podcasts, though.
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Date: 2007-11-06 09:05 am (UTC)Newsgroups are over. In fact they've been over for so long it's like talking about the horse and cart, but email's over for the same reason — it's too much of a nuisance to filter out the spam.
Microsoft is over, too. Not just because they released Vista to widespread indifference, but because kids founding startups expect to be bought by Google and Yahoo. The future of the desktop is going to be opensource chasing Apple's tail lights. While the desktop still has a future, at any rate.
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Date: 2007-11-06 09:13 am (UTC)And yes, Microsoft. It's amazing, you can be the world's biggest company and still be over, like a tree that someone's already chopped down, but that still takes a decade to teeter and crash.
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Date: 2007-11-06 09:15 am (UTC)Here in England Radio One is trying to force us to like a new set of crap bands who base themselves on the lyrical and musical style of Jilted John. Reverend and The Makers are probably the worst.
The problem is, none of them realise that Graham Fellows' character was a comic creation, like Alan Partridge or David Brent. It's rather like those touring rock bands who saw Spinal Tap in the tourbus and took it at face value.
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Date: 2007-11-06 10:13 am (UTC)Such a view, which quite probably everyone holds at some point in their adolescence, sounded much more convincing in times where the choice wasn't between Gore and Bush.
("But he got the majority, and still didn't get to be president. See, I'm right." -- "So you say that if he had gotten a bigger majority this would still have happened?" -- "I don't know. I am always right. I like pithy statements. I don't like details.")
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Democracy?
Date: 2007-11-06 10:13 am (UTC)Okay examples: an advantage of democracy. The minimum wage and the tax credit system for working families have really helped low income families in the UK. I'm one of them and I can vouch for it. That's a socialist policy - it's something the Conservative party would never have contemplated in a million years - in fact they voted against it, didn't they? That's democracy working, as far as I can see. I chose the right party...and that choice was available to everybody.
You claim to be 'deeply political'but I think you need to understand something about the detail of political parties (how policy works, how the money works and how the ethos drives the policy)before you can make that claim - and not just take the generalised view.
Re: Democracy?
Date: 2007-11-06 11:26 am (UTC)Socialist policies? How about a progressive income tax; closing tax loopholes for city fatcats; comprehensive (non-religious) education; free university places; decent benefits rather than tax credits; scrapping nuclear weapons, renationalising rail...Brown's Labour won't deliver any of those in a million years and voting for them, believing oneself to part of a Good vs Evil struggle makes you part of the problem.
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Date: 2007-11-06 10:17 am (UTC)der.
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Date: 2007-11-06 10:23 am (UTC)Which leads me to wonder what you mean by "over", and whether your definition of it is in fact "over" itself. You seem to have this romantic/modernist notion that something is only relevant if it's challenging, dynamically changing, "now", etc. Maybe that way of seeing things is itself dead: after all it's a very historical-specific notion, isn't it? The neo-classicists didn't see things that way.
And since you situate yourself in pop music and, latterly, literature, is Momus now "over" as well? (You're involved in the art world too of course, but you seem in permanent denial about the "overness" and essential retroness of that scene too.)
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Date: 2007-11-06 10:31 am (UTC)I don't agree that the concept of "over" is over, or that we could make now = then because "zombiefied artforms define our era". That's the sort of sophistry people accuse me of, and it's doomed to failure, because "now = then" and "the new = the old" and "the original = the hackneyed" quickly form recursive circles, debasing the terms of debate, and finally language itself.
I also don't think the art world is remotely over. It's booming financially, and even someone condeming New York's current cultural scene (http://imomus.livejournal.com/327285.html?thread=12375413#t12375413) is forced to condemn its current art scene least of all.
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Date: 2007-11-06 11:16 am (UTC)I have discovered, and I feel I must share this with my British and American comrades who keep harping about this exact concern you've voiced right there, that the common telephone can, in fact, be turned off.
It can also be muted, so as to allow you to ignore incoming calls and yet become aware of contact attempts at some subsequent and presumably more convenient time. As miraculous it may seem the TV may also be turned off at will and watched, as it were, selectively.
Seriously. It's all in the manual.
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Date: 2007-11-06 11:21 am (UTC)As for television, the way to watch it selectively -- just like the way to answer communications in the time you allocate, not the time somebody else chooses -- is on the internet.
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Date: 2007-11-06 11:28 am (UTC)ahhhhhhhh every time i post a comment on your blog, i look at the tatami mat background and my mind goes:
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (good / relaxing ahhh )
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Date: 2007-11-06 11:54 am (UTC)Part one
Date: 2007-11-06 12:04 pm (UTC)"People playing guitars, and other people thinking that's incredibly important, is over. "
On the contrary, Theres no shortage of people who choose to play the guitar, and theres no shortage of people who find it highly credible. Guitars are still the instrument of choice for nearly all the flavors of indie. 9 out of 10 bands incorporate guitars.
If you believe that rock is dead because it's just not progressing, I'm more inclined to agree with this. I think the reason why rock isnt progressing is because as soon as it trys to digress from "rock" it stops being classed as rock by everyone else and it becomes part of the "alternative/experimental" genre.
Take Ratatat; they're one of my favourite bands. They predominantly work with Guitars, Bass and Synthesizers. They have a completely unique sound that you instantly recognise as them. The thing is, this sound wouldnt be recongised as rock, even though it incourporates a lot of sounds and methods associated with rock.
Rock as a genre has been enshrined, and any attempt to deviate from it is counted as an entirely different thing altogether. Which leaves you with Rockism and as you call it "retro necro".
"As for mp3s, well, ubiquity is the abyss. Look at this artistically, too. There's been a brain drain. No longer will the most talented creative brains of their generation be headhunted by popular music, as might have been the case thirty years ago."
I agree with the principle that "rationed music" is more special than a daily barrage of noise, and I think if you were to compare the middle ages to now, where you cant walk into any shop without hearing music, it's a valid point. but I dont believe music has become anymore forceably ubiquitous than when the first music player was introduced to homes. Nobody is forcing you to listen to an iPod. Nobody is forcing you to have your speakers on when you visit a myspace page. Its still entirely your choice as to how ubiquitous it actually is.
As for your comment regarding The greatest minds in music not being head hunted anymore... I remember you said in an interview that Britain's music scene was once controlled by gatekeepers like John Peel and NME and that to an extent you resented that. Well, the gatekeepers are dead, I'll agree with that much, but just because the gatekeepers arent there to elevate and sanctify music anymore doesnt mean pop is dead.
I think you resented the gatekeepers because the gatekeepers wouldnt let you through. Then as the gatekeepers grew weaker, died and their temples of music started to crumble, you lost interest because part of you still longs to be elevated and sanctified, and because the institutes you saw as capable (or perhaps truely worthy) of that are disappearing.
Rather than embrace the fact the institutional sanctification of music is dead and that people are all about personal worship nowdays, you just write it all off as dead because you dont give a shit that your art means a lot to individual fans on a personal level. Thats not enough for you and it never will be.
"My nephew -- who's remarkably similar to a 90s-born me -- wants to make computer games, not pop records."
Thats not a sign that pop is dead, its a sign your nephew is a geek. I should know, I was that geek growing up. My brother had posters of footballers on his walls, I had Daruma dolls on my shelves...
"When did I first notice that television is over? Six or seven years ago"
Agreed. Television is being superceded by computers and the internet.
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Date: 2007-11-06 12:05 pm (UTC)Whenever I tell people I prefer the internet over phones nobody ever agrees with me. As a tool for conversation, phones are over, at least for me. but there are still instances that make it conveinient and necessary to have a phone. The mobile phone makes someone available for communication anywhere, thats its biggest pro and biggest con.
for example, lets say I have to meet a client in central London to discuss a project. Lets say we agree to meet at such and such a place. Sometimes people are delayed or they cant find a particular place - mobile phones save the day. And sometimes, clients prefer the phone - they dont have time to sit in front of a computer because of their "hectic OMG lifestyles". I cant tell a client that "no, I wont speak to you on the phone, I prefer the internet" because I have bills to pay and my livelihood depends on it.
For you, perhaps phones are over, but for everyone else who has a real job (BUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!! ;)) you cant escape them.
"Cars: Yet another monster of the 20th century that, as far as I'm concerned, has bitten the dust."
I wish this was so. I really wish I could say cars have bitten the dust but they never will, ever. I dont drive, I think theres no need to drive when you live in a city like London where you're only ever ten minutes away from a tube station or bus stop. However, for people out in the sticks, cars are necessary for getting into town, doing your shopping, etc.
Its not necessary for everyday life in the city. I would love to see cars disapear from all major cities.
"Democracy: if I had (voted), would a thing have changed? When you can't really slip a cigarette paper between the parties?
You always used to say that the only people who argued it wasnt worth voting were the moronic cynics. Are you now a moronic cynic?
proportional representation of the parties is what Britain needs for fairer politics, so that everyones vote counts. but Labour and the conservatives will never let this happen because it would destroy their power.
" America is basically over"
As a superpower - yes. China will eventually match America.
As a source of culture - I dont think we've seen the end of American cultural adoption by the rest of the world, not by a long shot.
"Wildlife is over; species are dying off at an alarming rate. "
Im not entirely sure how I feel about wildlife extinction. If I said I felt sad about the idea that beautiful creatures and biospheres disapearing, would it be sincere? I cant say Ive ever looked into whether my own lifestyle choices might be contributing to the destruction of these beasts and their habitats. Im going to look into it though. Thanks for making me think... well, you always do.
"Planes cover the kind of distances that matter increasingly as the world shrinks."
Ive never flown in a plane.
Do you not feel even slightly hypocritical that you'll sit here complaining about cars poluting the environment, winters ending, wildlife dying, global warming, and yet you'll still happily fly out 600 hundreds miles in a plane to give a 6 minute speech?
"Communism and socialism (not necessarily in "democratic" forms) looked like they died at the end of the 80s, but they'll be back because they embody the antidote to concentrations of wealth, which certainly aren't over. "
I recently read an archived entry in your journal where you went to a Vietnamese Supermaket with Hisae, bought some quite pretty looking communist propaganda and declared yourself "emotionally communist". You then got into quite a heated argument with a Polish reader who claimed he grew up in Poland during its communist era and he deeply resented your (by his appropriations) frivolous, sentimental, warped view of a system that resulted in the death and oppression of thousands. It was a great read, a fantastic entry, but if I'm totally honest, I sided with the polish writer much more than I did with you.
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Date: 2007-11-06 12:28 pm (UTC)Music and TV are so totally over. With the exception of some highly regressive new-Prog rock I've been having trouble getting beyond Can and Kraftwerk and Herbie Hancock for ages. New rock music revolts, and new pop music sells McDonald's. I'm still watching Matt Groening, but that's about all.
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Date: 2007-11-06 12:29 pm (UTC)YOU DON´T SAY.
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Date: 2007-11-06 12:45 pm (UTC)Music does not begin and end with middle aged men.
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