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The difference between the French obituaries of Jean Baudrillard, who died last week, and the Anglo-Saxon ones was really remarkable. The Anglo ones seemed to be written by people trapped in exactly the sort of spectral, consumerist cage that Baudrillard described in his work, people nevertheless unaware of how well he had understood their situation. And so we got, from Britain and America, pieces which began, over and over again, with the same two soundbites:

1. That Baudrillard had said the first Gulf War "did not take place".

2. That his ideas had inspired The Matrix (a film he hated and refused to have anything to do with, by the way).

The best obit was in Libération, the paper for which he wrote many of his most famous articles. They gave him the cover and several pages inside, and told us that Baudrillard was "curiosity itself".



Whereas a newspaper like Le Figaro told us, usefully and sensibly, that Baudrillard "contested the very notion of a New World Order, because it suggested the end of history and a conception of the universal in which the figure of the other is by definition retrograde, barbaric or archaic", and that his conception of postmodernity was of an era "marked by the erosion of grand explanations of the world and by the hegemony of a consumerist lifestyle", the Anglo press actually exemplified those things, offering us no big ideas, a conception of Frenchmen as "the other", a few anecdotes about Keanu Reeves and Madonna, some soundbites that had grown "iconic" by repetition, some hate mail, and some very peculiar and contradictory stuff about consumerism.

What to make of the very odd article in The Scotsman entitled "Bookshop hype owes a debt to Gallic genius of the hyper-real"? This told us that "his ideas are probably a lot more sane than you might think" because the policy of Waterstone's Booksellers to charge publishers £1000 to have a book on display in the store and £10,000 to make it a featured display somehow vindicated "crazy" Baudrillard's idea about simulacra and the hyper-real? Some kind of claim that Baudrillard could be justified, after all, as a slightly unconventional marketing guru seemed to be in the offing.

This was confirmed by the NPR report in which Mark Poster from the University of California at Irvine told public radio listeners that the French philosopher "was very interested in consumer behaviour", and recounted Baudrillard's own consumer preference: unlike Americans, he drank wine at lunch.

On the question of whether Baudrillard liked America, there was some confusion. The Times told us that Baudrillard was both "a fierce critic of consumer culture" and "a tireless enthusiast for America". For Reuters, though, Baudrillard's "America" was "a high-speed travelogue seeking to lay bare the "banality" of American culture" and his response to 9/11 "seemed to display a lack of sympathy for the victims". Several articles quoted his statement that America was the world's "last remaining primitive culture". For some reports, Baudrillard thought Disneyland was "a paradise", others reported that, for Baudrillard, "Disneyland is not a fantasy -- it presents an objective portrait of America. It tries to make you forget that the whole of America is already infantilized".

BBC Radio 3's Nightwaves show found a British academic -- Andy Martin, reader in French Literature at Cambridge -- who had actually dined, once, one-to-one, with Baudrillard. He could remember just two things the guru said, one about Madonna and one about surfing. Madonna had just produced this book called "Sex" and, according to Martin, Baudrillard and Madonna were not only at the same level of American celebrity at the time, but rumoured by some to be dating. Baudrillard said of Madonna: "Her tragedy is that she can never get naked enough".

When Martin, a keen surfer, said he didn't like the way the word surfing was then being turned into a metaphor for other things, like taking a computer onto the internet, Baudrillard said "Everything that once was real has already become a metaphor".

While presenter Matthew Sweet wanted to end by calling Baudrillard "the greatest fool of his age", Martin preferred to end on a technical note. "He is a strong anti-foundationalist. I think the term postmodernist is already dead. Does that help?"

It did indeed help, although the Figaro put it much more coherently for the layman when they said "For Baudrillard we have become a part of a universe where not only has all transcendent reference disappeared, but in which the definition of reality itself has become problematical, as evidenced by the predominance of virtual representations of the world over values which foreground the notions of sense and truth."

Considering how widely Baudrillard's soundbite about the first Gulf War not having happened was repeated, it's surprising how little people went into what Baudrillard had meant by that. Only Libé went back to the original statement.

"War," said Baudrillard, "everywhere except in the New World Order, is born from an antagonistic and destructive relationship, a duel between two adversaries. But this war is asexual, surgical, "war processing". The enemy here is nothing but a target on a computer screen, just as a sexual partner is nothing more than a pseudonym in a sexy chatroom on the Minitel Rose. If that's "sex", well, the Gulf War can pass for "war"."

Nobody pointed out -- so I'll do it here -- that George Bush Junior seems to share Baudrillard's disdain for the brevity and unreality of the first Gulf War, and his father's New World Order. Bush Jnr hates the "internets" and panty-waisted "virtuality" as much as Baudrillard did. So convinced was he that the first Gulf War didn't take place that he organized a second one. Far from being a "surgical strike" in "virtual reality", his has lots of real combat between real people on the ground, lots of torture, bloodshed and suffering. It's still taking place today.

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Date: 2007-03-11 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eustaceplimsoll.livejournal.com
But even before they do that, all semantics require (what are perceived as) binary opposites to define themselves. And this is why there is an introjected postmodern West in every Muslim.

At the risk of dragging this on to the point of tedium, I really can't accept this gem of theory just like that. In what senses to you, for instance, contain Islam? And do you contain everything that you are not? How?

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Date: 2007-03-11 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Well, I do contain Islam, since I went through a process of education about the religion in 1993 at the Central London mosque and married a Muslim woman the following year.

But in a wider sense, I'd say that in the current cultural period, Islam has become the West's designated other, and vice versa. In other words, it's a defining other, an introjected other. Not all others are "the designated other" and have this power to define. And it's a fairly recent shift. The previous "designated other", within my lifetime, was Soviet communism.

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Date: 2007-03-11 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eustaceplimsoll.livejournal.com
OK, you have experience of Islam and Muslims, but most in the West have nothing so substantial - and since they have only a superficial understanding of Islam, how can it even begin to define them?

And to speak of Islam becoming the West's 'designated other' and vice versa: we're getting into the same difficult waters as we did yesterday. It's fine sounding to speak of the West and Islam as two Leviathans with human attributes, but if we actually applied this theory to an individual - one of those billions of individuals - things aren't so cut and dried. In what ways have muslim changed since 2001? Do they treat their families and friends differently? Do their jobs differently? Practice Islam differently? Eat, shit and boink differently?

And you and I? How have we redefined ourselves since the end of the Cold War?

(no subject)

Date: 2007-03-11 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I would say we frame our self-images differently, a bit like this thread, which gets squeezed ever more tightly against the boundaries. Imagine the text within the box being "you" and the way the box is changing and shrinking being "history" or "context". And the righthand edge being, for instance, "the designated other".

(no subject)

Date: 2007-03-11 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eustaceplimsoll.livejournal.com
I must confess to not being much convinced by your model: as far as I can see, the text remains essentially the same!

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Date: 2007-03-11 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Okay, try this. Is this two Muslim men plotting a suicide pact or a valuable Western vase about to go on sale at Christie's?

Image

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Date: 2007-03-11 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eustaceplimsoll.livejournal.com
I can't see what's inside the vase. Wouldn't be Islam would it?

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Date: 2007-03-11 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eustaceplimsoll.livejournal.com
Funny, I guess that's how fundamentalist Muslims see the West: as a vase they need to smash for the Islam it has inside.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-03-11 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Both! "Going, going.." BOOM!

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Date: 2007-03-11 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
"With-
out
cont-
raries
there
is no
pro-
gression."

Willi-
am
Blake

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Date: 2007-03-12 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eustaceplimsoll.livejournal.com
Are Islam and postmodernism contraries then? Which way do you want it?

Anyhow, Blake was constructing a theodicy whereby good and evil as divine energies synthesize in the 'final end' of humanity; in a progression towards blessedness; you can't really use his contceptual frame for your purposes.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-03-12 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eustaceplimsoll.livejournal.com
Blake would despise postmodernism.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-03-12 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eustaceplimsoll.livejournal.com
And incidentally, that kind of theodicy, where 'evil' is shown as serving some sort of purpose, is utterly discredited as morally corrupt. God has a purpose for the holocaust? The holocaust is, finally, good?

I know you're not a theist, but this kind of thinking - seeing 'creative friction' as necessary and 'good' - is also morally corrupt. The people who died in the Twin Towers didn't die for or in the course of progress.

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