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My mother isn't a fan of contemporary art. She came with Hisae and me to Edinburgh's Dean Gallery on Sunday mostly to look at some surrealist paintings. Surrealism may have been deeply disturbing to bourgeois sensibilities seventy years ago, but now Max Ernst and Paul Delvaux paintings are reassuringly literary and pictorial -- quaint, even. The stuff I wanted to see was in "Off the Wall", the museum's collection of floor and ceiling-mounted work by contemporary Scottish artists like Jim Lambie and Martin Creed.



For my mother, a room with coloured tape on the floor, or filled with balls of different sizes and colours (Martin Creed's installation) is some kind of hoax or joke. She tut tuts at it. In a way, though, it's hardly any more challenging than the surrealism she likes -- cute formalism, diluted conceptualism with an accent on the decorative, the colourful, the playful. It brightens a grey Sunday in Edinburgh, anyway.



Something my mother and I could agree on, though, was the brilliance of the Nathan Coley installation "The Lamp of Sacrifice, 286 Places of Worship, Edinburgh 2004". This isn't part of "Off The Wall", though it could be. Two rooms have been turned into a scale model of all the places of worship listed in the Edinburgh and region Yellow Pages. Crammed together, the 286 churches, meeting rooms and mosques are made of cardboard and stand about four feet high. It took Coley six months (and some money from Bloomberg) to make, and you can spend a lot of time -- and have a lot of fun -- trying to recognize the buildings, towering over them like King Kong.

I ended up buying the Coley book There Will Be No Miracles Here (it's published by Edinburgh's Fruitmarket Gallery, but good luck finding a page about it on their re-designed website).

I find Coley's understatement interesting -- though the works are visually very pleasing, they're essentially architectural models, so they have something dry and restrained about them. There are camouflaged churches and mosques covered in Daniel-Buren-type stripes, a stage-set but-and-ben cottage set down in incongruous locations on the Isle of Bute, and some nice slideshows juxtaposing a Barratt home with descriptions of Le Corbusier's Villa Savoye, or ramshackle patina pigeon lofts with catalogue descriptions of upmarket conservatories and summer houses. Coley quotes Ruskin ("It is not the church we want, but the sacrifice") and seems to hunger for his spiritual seriousness, or Le Corbu's.



Coley (a Scot, like Lambie and -- by upbringing, anyway -- Creed) is up for the Turner Prize this year. He'd be my choice if I were on the jury. In fact, it's Michael Bracewell and Miranda Sawyer who'll decide. Oh, and Fiona Bradley, who directs Edinburgh's Fruitmarket Gallery and wrote the introduction to the book about him. So I'd say he's in with a good chance (knowing Bracewell, I think he might be well-disposed towards him too). I also like Wallinger's appropriation of Brian Haw's Iraq protest art, banned from the lawn in front of the House of Commons. The winner will be announced on December 3rd.

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Date: 2007-05-15 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
There was a report on the news this morning about an art instalation here that's just a giant glass box filled with thick mist that you can walk in.

I think contemporary art only really has one way forward and that's the creation of immersive enviroments, which will reach it's peak once we have virtual reality fine-tuned properly to the point we can create our own realities.

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Date: 2007-05-15 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
Oh, and just to clarify -- I know art installations have been prominant since the 1970s, theyre hardly new, however, they've very restricted by space and money. You would have to have a lot of money at your disposal to take installation art up a notch. Where as 2D art and 3D sculpture really has very few restrictions in terms of media available, installation art is still very restricted I think.

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Date: 2007-05-15 08:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You're right that surrealism seems quaint now, and was in any case subsumed into popular culture as long ago as Hitchcock's Spellbound. But I have to say that a lot of contemporary art has a rather quaint feeling to it as well, only this time the reference is the sixties. Creed's lights going on and off? Could be some 60s conceptual piece. Coloured tape on the floor? Maybe some op art/pop art thing from the 60s. Or even the floor on the cover of a solo Syd Barrett album. In fact, with this return to the sixties it seems contemporary art is in pretty much the same place as contemporary rock. They both seem something of an exhausted medium, even if the genre restrictions of art are a little looser. (I'm guessing the main difference for you is that you're seduced by the glamour of art, whereas the glamour of rock, not so much.)

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Date: 2007-05-15 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
I think contemporary art in this era has reached the stage where it's restricted not by restraints upon ideas but by present technology. We just dont have the technology to progress further at this present time.


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Date: 2007-05-15 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
ImageI only ever bought rock albums for the covers anyway. When they switched to CD, that was really the beginning of the end.

I think the rock establishment has a tendency to reward relatively moronic and unoriginal beahviour, whereas the art establishment rewards relatively intelligent and original behaviour, although as you say there are only degrees of difference between them. But let me put it this way. On the cover of Q magazine this month is Oasis. Yes, Oasis. On the cover of Frieze is George Condo.

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Andreas Gursky ("In Praise of Blandness") is the cover feature of Modern Painters, wheras Word puts Nick Cave and other "mavericks" on the cover. Gursky was born in 1955, Cave in 1957. Gursky is the more radical and relevant of those two, I think -- he's managed to photograph globalization, a pretty difficult feat -- yet it's Nick Cave who's being presented as a "maverick" (if you read the feature, this is mostly about the virtue of being unfashionable and how great Neil Young is) whereas Gursky is praising blandness. This is what I meant when I talked about Coley's "restraint". The rock world promotes conservative values aggressively, insisting they're radical ones. The art world is quietly deviant.

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a damien hirst google image search result:

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perversions of the media culture

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Date: 2007-05-15 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
So stripes are subversive?



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Date: 2007-05-15 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
not if they're White Stripes

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Date: 2007-05-15 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
You kids can keep up this boring adolescent pissing contest over what's "subversive" and "radical". I'm going to check on my garden.

(I had to pour a ring of of fox urine around my carnivorous plant bog last evening to keep out squirrels and rabbits. How's that for radical chic?)

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Date: 2007-05-15 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niddrie-edge.livejournal.com
And here's me pissing in my own backyard!

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Date: 2007-05-15 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niddrie-edge.livejournal.com
Wait.....how did you get the fox urine?
(and why do I feel I am being set up in some Groucho Marx routine?)

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Date: 2007-05-15 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
You kids can keep up this boring adolescent pissing contest over what's "subversive" and "radical". I'm going to check on my garden.

1. It's hip to be radical and conservative to be square. Hip is good and square bad.
1. No, wait, let's not be so conventional, it's subversive to be square and hip to be conservative to be radical!
3. Therefore it's good to be conservative because it's good to be hip!
4. Therefore, back to 1! Let's be conventional after all! It's radical!

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Date: 2007-05-15 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
just put some stripes in it, and it will be radical automatically.

Urine Analysis and boy is your Therapissed?

Date: 2007-05-16 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_wwld_/
I think all the six degrees stuff is like a giant goof on acaDEMONic culture? Then someone came along and perverted it into an ASSault on the lies made in the original Social Contract of Live Journal and then theres the ancillary noise about Identity (http://lastmanstanding.livejournal.com/1208.html?replyto=8120)

Also see a strain of the Magus where Fowles goes all Schezerehade on our ASS and weaves this compLEX web of nun sense and makes it a habit of trying to break us of pLAYing by the rules of engagement by CONstantly changing them or using them as a metaphor that the expectation is if you pLAY by the rules you will be rewarDEAD in Heaven whereASS if you commit to the process this is HEAVEN write here write now and the SEARCH is its own reward in and of itself?

meaningless or more (morays?)

Think that's where the Be your own Disciple (http://brianconn.net/index.php/comments/) stuff got stARTed?

I see he comments on a woman pulling an egg out of her vagina in a CONceptual piece but the ALG (http://www.livejournal.com/~laruoccobot/profile) uses an onion because its more like appealing layer upon layer of the [livejournal.com profile] homonymph.

ref.: its not rehab when its called PREHAB? (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&q=%22Someone+once+pulled+an+onion+out+of+her+vagina%22&btnG=Search)

I wish I was in Hawaii too, BRIAN, tho this time of year, i hear that its not the heat its the stupidity (http://sharkpoet.livejournal.com/316.html?replyto=316)

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Date: 2007-05-17 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pay-option07.livejournal.com
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness . .


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Date: 2007-05-15 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
by the way, my dear, I´ve been meaning to ask you, have you heard James Dean Bradfield´s cover version of See A Friend In Tears, and what do you think of it?

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Date: 2007-05-15 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
No, I've just heard clips on the internets. If anyone has an mp3, YouSendIt or email to momasu (at) gmail dot com, please.

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Date: 2007-05-15 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dzima.livejournal.com
I'm sure Nicky Wire would have made a great performance out that song as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cxj1ywTYs0

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Date: 2007-05-15 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cap-scaleman.livejournal.com
Cool stuff, that Martin Creed thing!

What do you think of this (http://www.ma-numminen.net/eng/img/disko/lp/lp25.jpg)?(It is CD-art).

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Date: 2007-05-15 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saint-claws.livejournal.com
I like the striped room best of all.

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Date: 2007-05-16 02:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"She tut tuts at it. In a way, though, it's hardly any more challenging than the surrealism she likes -- cute formalism, diluted conceptualism with an accent on the decorative, the colourful, the playful."

Some people still attribute "skill" as a thing of value within art.
-Marc

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Date: 2007-05-16 08:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Leni Riefenstahl's "Triumph of the Will" is still hailed as a highly skillful, innovative film.
How about "The Birth of a Nation?" Another experimental, groundbreaking film. Therefore, they should be thought of as "things of value"--and as art.

Don't you just love logic?

Michael

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Re: good googling there mr anonymouse

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the shinjuku lady

Date: 2007-05-16 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qscrisp.livejournal.com
If we're talking about pissing contents, I'd have to say that this pisses all over any art installation I've ever seen:

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Date: 2007-05-16 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qscrisp.livejournal.com
I don't know why that didn't come out. It's here:

http://www.youtube.com/v/umWtOY9b3Ec

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Date: 2007-05-16 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uberdionysus.livejournal.com
Love it when you talk about art. Never heard of Nathan Coley before. And yeah, I imagine Future People will find it hard to believe that Lambie and Creed were once shocking, kinda the same way we find it hard to believe the Impressionists or Caravaggio were/was shocking.

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Date: 2007-05-16 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Does anyone really find Lambie and Creed shocking though? In many ways they're as much court artists as certainly Caravaggio at least was, except now the aristocracy have names like Saatchi and Serota. They are working very much within the accepted parameters and protocols of a very much establishment British art system. Perhaps where they differ from Caravaggio and most of the Impressionists is that they are nowhere near as innovative, the (mostly) sixties tropes that they recycle have already done the shocking for them. Now it is something else. Call it 'cute formalism' if you will.

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Date: 2007-05-16 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzberlin.livejournal.com
Image

Wow, this photo should win some awards, or better, be stolen by stanleylieber