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Below, on the left, you can see an image of Kate Moss as a black woman. Nick Knight took the picture, Val Garland did the make-up, and it was commissioned by Giorgio Armani, who was guest-editing a section of the Independent newspaper dedicated to the fight against AIDS in Africa. The supplement ran on September 21st, and half of the profits went to African AIDS charities.



The reaction was swift, and almost entirely negative. "Racist" Kate Moss was "in blackface", said Visual Editors. Some commenters threatened to boycott Armani, others contented themselves with noting that real black women tend to be fatter than Kate Moss, who could, incidentally, "go back to her crack house". Most people agreed with an article that ran in the Independent's main rival, The Guardian, which asked why the model couldn't have been black.

"What exactly is this picture of Moss-as-African-woman supposed to portray?" asked Hannah Pool, the Guardian journalist. "I suppose it is meant to be subversive, but what does it say about race today when a quality newspaper decides that its readers will only relate to Africa through a blacked-up white model rather than a real-life black woman? What does it say about the fight against HIV/Aids if that is the only way to make us care? And, as a black woman (born that way), what does this trick say about me?"

"Next time a photograph of an African woman is needed," Pool concludes, "they should call on Iman. Or me."

Since the reaction to this image was so overwhelmingly negative, I thought I'd try to put a rather different point of view, because this touches on a lot of subjects I feel quite strongly about. I actually think the condemnation of this image is quite misguided and wrongheaded, resting as it does on a series of assumptions which I'd call rockist, simplistic, incredibly literal-minded, and unsophisticated in their understanding of the nature of representation -- and especially metonymy (the kind of imagery where one thing stands for, or represents, many).

First of all, the "why didn't they go the whole hog and employ a black person instead?" argument is like saying an impressionist shouldn't play the prime minister if the prime minister is available to do it himself, or that all drag queens should be replaced by real women.

The thing is, having someone play someone else raises a whole series of interesting juxtapositions, new meanings, involves fascinating skills and telling shortfalls. It lands us in the "uncanny valley", the place where categories fail and ostranenie takes over. When categories get mixed up, we have to question our reflexive assumptions -- and that's a good thing.

I think immediately of other representations of black people by whites. Sure, the Black and White Minstrel Show is the one all the complainants mentioned, but it isn't the only possible option. There's also Tibor Kalman's classic and brilliant image of Queen Elizabeth II as a black woman, which ran on the fourth edition of Colors magazine, back in 1993, the "What If..." issue. Or I think of the brilliant production The Wooster Group made of "The Emperor Jones", in which white actors play black people -- and yet everything is estranged and confused by brilliant kabuki songs and strange poetic alienation. Or I think of Black Like Me, in which white Texan John Howard Griffin describes six weeks disguised as a black man in the then-segregated Southern states of the US. Or the project in which Pier Fichefeux made portraits of Fabrica students of all races as if they were black.



Would Pool call Kalman, the Wooster Group, Griffin and Fichefeux casual, insensitive racists who should have used real black people? Or artistic provocateurs interested in making us see an old problem (essentially the "problem" of difference itself, or rather, "the difference that makes a difference") from a new angle?

Pool quotes academic Paul Gilroy: "The threat of being labelled politically correct creates an environment where we are scared to voice our objections." Given the context, the Kate Moss picture is "empty nihilism," he says. "Blacking up has become acceptable in the same way that pole dancing is now sold to women as an empowering thing to do," says Pool. "Both assume that the thing they are poking fun at no longer exists - ie discrimination, racism and sexism. But of course they are wrong."

This is simply not the case with the Armani image. The very last thing you do, if you want to make-believe that racism no longer exists, is black up. Blacking up is precisely what you do if you want to have a discussion about race. But identity politics does play a part in the misunderstanding of Nick Knight's image.

Basically, one of the problems of the identity politics movement of the 1970s is that it came out of the Me Generation. That's the "identity" part. You identify with others like yourself (gays, blacks, women) and militate for your own minority rights. Which is fine. But the politics that result are Me Politics. The idea emerges that it's only reasonable to represent your own wishes and needs, not those of people different from yourself. Not only do you not represent the needs of others (as traditional politics had done, sometimes patronizingly and pompously, but sometimes with genuine concern), you claim to be the only one able to represent yourself authentically. And here, of course, we encounter the spectre of rockism. If the image of a black person in the media is not represented by a real black person, say the rockists, it's not authentic, and therefore not acceptable.

But why would Iman be a better representative of Africa than Kate Moss? Aren't they both supermodel celebrities, their daily lives equally far removed from the experience of poor Africans with AIDS? What if, just experimentally, we said that anyone could represent Africa? Wouldn't it, in fact, be more useful, if the intention is to provoke concern for people unlike yourself, to show someone non-African declaring a solidarity with Africa?

We need to get beyond the lazy thinking which is the most negative legacy of identity politics. To represent the other, not just yourself, is a virtue, not a vice. Especially, obviously, when it's done with sympathy and compassion. The suppression of all imagery of black people played by other races is not the answer -- perhaps it even represents a wish to make black people invisible, or eternal victims, or segregated from the glitzy, celebrity-obsessed consumer culture we spoilt Northerners live in (which contributes, of course, to climate change that will impact Africa much more harshly than it does our own cold countries).

A white person playing a black person might actually represent respect for the other, a wish to become the other. Why then is a negative motive always assumed? Why must we boycott Armani? Would we boycott a straight actor who chose to play a gay man in a film? Is all travesty automatically "a travesty"?

And what if the metonymy involved in the Kate Moss image were not "Here is one (faux) black woman who stands for Africa" (as most commentators seem to assume) but something more like "Here is an image of the relationship between the North and the South"? In other words, what if the thing being portrayed here is our own bizarre position in relation to Africa's problems -- the fact that we consume and worship success and money while others fail and die?

What if the disturbing thing about the Kate Moss image were also the good thing about it -- that it collides tragedy and farce in a way that shows the full obscenity of a juxtaposition that exists in the real world? What if the shocking absurdity of this image were actually the most realistic thing you could show?

An image of a black person is an image of a clear, categorical identity. It's reassuring for that reason. We know what it is. An image of a half-black, half-white person is much more impure, confusing, alarming. It raises the spectre of deception, miscegenation, bastardy, and that disturbs us.

But above all, rather than an identity, what we see in a travesty image is a relationship -- the relationship between ourselves and the Other, the different. By refusing such images, we refuse to look at relationship -- in other words, our part in the problem. By insisting on the purity of identity and authenticity, we block out the more complex and complicit realities of race -- a difference that still makes a difference.
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Date: 2007-01-08 10:21 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2007-01-08 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j03.livejournal.com
The paragraph on "identity politics" immediately reminded me of the problems my friend is having as a transgendered person in the gay community.

She is not seen as an "authentic" lesbian or gay person because she used to be a man.

Wondeful post!

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Date: 2007-01-08 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Well, it's an interesting paradox: the idea of rockism is really an extension of identity politics, and yet it destroys identity politics, because while identity politics is intent on creating and working with essences, rockism as a concept questions and undermines them.

But it's more complex than that, because identity politics both reinforces essences like race by seeing them as "authentic" -- and also attempts to put them beyond discussion, by making them taboo. And what's beyond discussion is clearly beyond deconstruction.

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Date: 2007-01-08 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beketaten.livejournal.com
I am absolutely with you on this.
It catches our minds in the kind of non-complacent confusion we secretly hold dreadful beneath the surface; our own weakness, to all sorts of diseases, to all sorts of HUMAN problems.
I think the cover was a beautiful idea. And it carried out beautifully, what's more. I think the fact that people reacted so strongly was in a funny way, sort of a proof of its power, though the claims of "racism" are fucking ridiculous and should not be as big a part of the reaction as it is; it's a tragic commentary on a time in which people are more worried about political correctness (ie. how to dance around the issue) than the issue itself.

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Date: 2007-01-08 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peripherus-max.livejournal.com
Kara Walker vs. Bettye Saar? Kara Walker wins. Next question.

this is true but this is a LIE

Date: 2007-01-08 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olamina.livejournal.com
An image of a black person is an image of a clear, categorical identity.

This is not true. Everyone knows race is a social construct and the margins are not clear nor should they ever be.

I don't think the objection to the Kate Moss thing was purely about identity politics. I am vehemently against identity politics and while I wouldn't stop the Guardian or anyone else from printing the image, I don't understand what the image was supposed to mean. This is not Kate Moss as a black woman. This is Kate Moss PAINTED BLACK, which is something else. I refuse to believe that this is what white people see when they look at someone and decide that they are looking at a black person and I am certain no one white would see Kate Moss walking down the street dipped in black paint and mistake her for a black woman.

The thing is, having someone play someone else raises a whole series of interesting juxtapositions, new meanings, involves fascinating skills and telling shortfalls.

If we accept the fact that she was not supposed to look like a black woman, I ask you WHO is this "someone else" she was supposed to be. At best, Moss was a caricature of a caricature; blackface of blackface. And waht is the point of that? I just don't see the point.

I am continually disgusted by the fact that we need anyone or anything to "represent Afric"a in order to drum up funding for AIDS research. It's AIDS, people. We should all want to eradicate for any myriad of reasons, not just because David Bowie or Heidi Klum declare themselves to be African.

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Date: 2007-01-08 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I ask you WHO is this "someone else" she was supposed to be.

I say it clearly in the piece: Kate Moss is made up here to represent OUR CONSUMER SOCIETY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH AFRICA... in all its absurdity and obscenity. In that sense, this is the most realistic image you could possibly see.

Also -- and I cannot say this enough -- the fact that something is a social construct does not mean that it's not real. Race as a social construct is a difference that makes a difference. It must be treated as real for this reason.

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Date: 2007-01-08 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
Christ, couldn't they think of someone else to blackface than KATE MOSS?? Like someone who actually means something?

Way to suck all the meaning out of your image, mr photographer.

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Date: 2007-01-08 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Who better than Kate Moss -- who more iconic, more charged with meaning -- to represent our glitzy consumer culture? She stares out of every ad telling you to buy buy buy, so why not, for a shock, see her staring out of an ad telling you how the other half die, die, die?

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Date: 2007-01-08 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olamina.livejournal.com
To represent the other, not just yourself, is a virtue, not a vice.

Virtuous in whose eyes?
Virtue to the benefit of whom?

Especially, obviously, when it's done with sympathy and compassion.

Sympathy and compassion? Why make an impassioned plea on behalf of the creatures of this image and then hide behind sympathy and compassion? How patronizing! Who asked for your white bourgeois sympathy and compassion, Bono? What ever happened to ethical imperative?

Must the appeal always be an emotional one? why can't we make reasonable appeals to the public? Reasonable appeals that would serve ultimately to educate and fulfill the imperative to better educate those who are ill informed on the diseases.

Or are we accepting the fact that we are more and more becoming a society of people who make decisions based on our "gut feelings" (a la George Bush) and things we only claim to understand.

I--for one--am afraid.

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Date: 2007-01-08 11:06 pm (UTC)
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Perhaps the 'meaning' of this image is being over-interpreted, a blacked out Kate Moss sells newspapers too.
Thomas Scott.

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Date: 2007-01-08 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheppardzo-14.livejournal.com
Agreed. I've caught more than my quota of bricks with the back of my skull for painting Ukiyo-e style work as an American of Euro-mutt ancestry and no (known) Asian genetic heritage. Meanwhile, my ex, an Issei who moved to the US as an adult, paints heroic-scale Italian Renaissance inspired figurative works, to no criticism. I will never fathom why it should be totally acceptable if an Asian wishes to paint in a traditional Western style, but not the reverse. You couldn't convince me that gender and age play no role, but race and ethnicity seem to be the key elements at work in this unbalanced equation.

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Date: 2007-01-09 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cerulicante.livejournal.com
Because Japanese, in their narcissim, think (nay, KNOW) that no non-Japanese, however skilled, can ever truly master Japanese things.


I am a sumi-e painter and a calligrapher. I am half-Japanese. So I will never be good enough.






That's how Japan works. Don't take it personally.

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Date: 2007-01-08 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] butterflyrobert.livejournal.com
A white person playing a black person might actually represent respect for the other, a wish to become the other.

This is the entire idea behind the ad. I am a little startled (though not entirely surprised, really) that so-called experts are unable to see something so obvious and make themselves look like complete idiots in their condemnation of it.

As far as authenticity goes, I'm going to take a post-modern stance and say that, in today's world, nothing is completely "authentic".

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Date: 2007-01-08 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Yay, Sir Robert!

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not interested in representation

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Date: 2007-01-08 11:39 pm (UTC)
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but it's sooooo mid 90s post-benneton, dazedandconfusedish //???!!!

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Date: 2007-01-08 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Well, I think that's the best criticism to be made of the image. But it's only old hat for those hipsters amongst us who saw Tibor Kalman's innovative black queen back in 1993. That's not very many. Some are still not ready for "provocative travesty" imagery even now. And Pier Fichefeux (Kahimi Karie's ex, by the way) worked at Fabrica, worked on Colors, and was essentially continuing Kalman's imagery ten years later... and was at least as hip to this kind of imagery as you or I. So even for people who knew this imagery in the 90s, visual professionals, insiders, it still has some kind of power.

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One example of an greater issue.

Date: 2007-01-09 12:05 am (UTC)
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I feel, especially living in an American society that almost endorses political correctness that most of the western world is currently facing an issue greater than most want to talk about.

Since the 1960's, many have tried to melt societal differences between different 'races'* so that everyone will feel better about each other. We try to box beliefs, ideas, and stereotypes into a crate and hope that if we randomly pick out things that it won't hurt, or morbidly offend, others.

Kate Moss and her effort to promote AIDS in Africa is one of these examples. Why didn't the Independent and those involved with this spread use a picture of an African? Because, as you said, they wanted to bring a broader brush to the issue. Yet, we are so afraid of showing the true identity to anything these days that mimicry is easier than reality.

And this is speaking as an young black female, who has seen the scars that even her parents bear after so many years and whom is sadden by the way this world has become.

*'Race' is slowing becoming an nonexistent object/word in the western world, especially the 'African Americans' race. We are inherently so many races that to classify one word onto the group is now just an bandage for a bigger wound. I hate the word "race", is such an trite, over used phrase that the meaning is now more ironic then it has ever been before.

We want to use this word to separate who we are from each other, and yet we slowing do things which makes us more and more alike. Although I take pride on myself for being an African American, I wish that one day in the future that my skin color or the culture I have grown in was not a huge 'identity' marker of who I really am.

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Date: 2007-01-09 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-newironsh15.livejournal.com
Because of Hitler we ran screaming into the behaviouralist camp and now we're just starting to peek our eyes out of the bunker.

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Date: 2007-01-09 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] introspectre.livejournal.com
Kate Moss is made up here to represent OUR CONSUMER SOCIETY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH AFRICA... in all its absurdity and obscenity. In that sense, this is the most realistic image you could possibly see.

You're right. This image is absurd. It's meta-comedy. It's beyond parody. I'm trying to square this particular circle, which presents us with an image of an obscenely rich young woman on the front cover of a newspaper, itself guest edited by an obscenely rich old man, in support of a charitable scheme backed by multinational corporations like Amex and GAP, who themselves are part of the problem, not the solution.

What a joke. It used to be "what can I do to make the world a better place?" but now it's "what can I buy to make the world a better place?"

For a start, getting the pharmaceutical companies and the religious zealots preaching abstinance might help in the battle against AIDS. Buying a £150 mobile phone from Bono's Product (Red) almost certainly won't.

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Date: 2007-01-09 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cerulicante.livejournal.com
For a start, getting the pharmaceutical companies and the religious zealots preaching abstinance might help in the battle against AIDS. Buying a £150 mobile phone from Bono's Product (Red) almost certainly won't.


I vehemently disagree. If Bono isn't a billionaire, then he won't have the moral superiority to fly around on a HUGE private jet and tell others that make 1/1000th of what he does how to spend their money! Just imagine if poor Bono had to live in an apartment and work a real job...now do you see how your pruchase of RED products is actually charity for celebrities? For just $100,000 a day, you, too, can support a celebrity!

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Date: 2007-01-09 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cerulicante.livejournal.com
Wow, paint a white woman like a darkie and the Limeys go nuts.




Advocate the killing of all non-Muslims in the world, send money to Al-Qaeda, preach the killing of all jews...and Tony Blair says your mosque is welcome in Britain.






You Brits have some work to do on race relations.

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Date: 2007-01-09 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beketaten.livejournal.com
And you have some work to do on exaggerations.

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Date: 2007-01-09 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
To represent the other, not just yourself, is a virtue, not a vice. Especially, obviously, when it's done with sympathy and compassion.

Thank you, and goodnight. Damn good post, Nick.

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Date: 2007-01-09 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 33mhz.livejournal.com
If they wanted to make Kate Moss a poster girl for AIDS, they should've given her some instead of painting her black.

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Date: 2007-01-09 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexjon.livejournal.com
Now, going back to the Guardian's editor, wouldn't it be easy enough to take that frame into questioning americans and their self-proclaimed status AS americans?

They defined the land as america, and they applied it to themselves, not as a matter of geographic identity, but as a matter of NATIONAL identity. Shouldn't the real americans be the native americans?

Or maybe I'm reaching too far

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Date: 2007-01-09 07:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
absolutely agreed. the image is horrifically absurd, its a perfect word.

momus i think your interpretation is spot on- apart from the fact that the ultimate insult surely has to be that kate moss is no doubt entirely innocent of what she is representing in that picture- her own collusion in a 'controversial' image that only reinforces her absurd relation to the world. comeone. its just another job. just another line of coke....

piu piu tenminutesolder.blogspot.com

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Date: 2007-01-09 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beketaten.livejournal.com
It's so easy to dismiss pretty women, isn't it?

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Date: 2007-01-09 08:50 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Another pixel into the sea of nothingness.

Who really gives a crap.

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Date: 2007-01-09 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com
In this case it's up to the viewer to acquire the necessary background to understand the visual language; those less-informed who might look at the photo and become offended are shit out of luck. We really can't hold the hands of all these outraged viewers who don't enjoy the good sense to already have absorbed all of this theory, right?

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Date: 2007-01-10 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopscotch.livejournal.com
That's my one issue with addressing problems with abstracts like the above... If they don't already understand the issue being addressed to an abstract level, the abstract response to the issue (such as Kate Moss being made black) just passes right over them.

Reminds me how Ginsberg wanted protestors to have pictures of babies and flowers instead of political rhetoric on their banners... You don't have to think about flowers and babies to know what they mean symbolically.

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Date: 2007-01-09 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nato-dakke.livejournal.com
It's times like these that I'm reminded how well we've got it here, watching the gosperats on tv. You western people are ridiculous about race. Seriously.

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Date: 2007-01-09 11:14 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You Japanese are ridiculous about race as well. Do you know history?

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Nice one

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OUR CONSUMER SOCIETY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH AFRICA

Date: 2007-01-09 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rob-kun.livejournal.com
Of course the reaction to this image is mostly hyperbole; I imagine that was the desired effect, rather than making any meaningful statement.

But your interpretation of the image as standing for the relationship between North and South is bizarre. Is our consumption in the West the cause of Africa's poverty? I'd love you to explain that one! So, is the solution to inequality to bring ourselves down to the poverty level of Africans by not consuming? Do Africans not also want success and money? Have you stopped to ask? Or have you made assumptions about this 'other' based on your contempt for 'glitzy, celebrity-obsessed consumer culture'?
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Kudos Rob Kun.Finally someone points out the stark staringly obvious, our Western enviro-guilt based self-loathing will do nothing to solve the problems the developing world faces. What Third World nations need are investment, enterprise and industry, proper sanitation, infrastructure, hydro-electricity, highways, railways, healthcare, hospitals and all the things we in the West hate ourselves for having. Yes, building these does damage the immediate environment but they are necessary to facilitate real development and not the mud hut school/village well development that seems to be as high as the World Bank is willing to set the bar for Third World self-sufficiency. Never mind the ethics of a clothes-horse blacking-out to sell newspapers,there is a bigger issue at stake and an orthodoxy that needs to be held to account.
Thomas Scott.

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Date: 2007-01-09 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"Is our consumption in the West the cause of Africa's poverty?"

This isn't about Africa. It's about mediated images.

It's about white western vanity, black western vanity, and the vanity of the author of this piece.

I came across a passage in Debord's "Coments on The Society of the Spectacle" which really reminded me of someone...

"The government of the spectacle, which now possesses all the means to falsify the whole of production and perception, is the absolute master of memories just as it is the unfettered master of projects that will shape the most distant future. It reigns unchecked; it executes its summary judgments.

It is in these conditions that a parodic end of the division of labor suddenly appears, with carnivalesque gaiety, all the more welcome because it coincides with the generalized disappearance of all true competence. A financier can be a singer, a lawyer a police spy, a baker can parade his literary tastes, an actor can be president, a chef can philosophize on the movements of baking as if they were landmarks in universal history. Each can join the spectacle, in order publicly to adopt, or sometimes secretly practice, an entirely different activity from whatever specialty first made their name. Where the possession of "mediatic status" has acquired infinitely more importance than the value of anything one might actually be capable of doing, it is normal for this status to be easily transferable and to confer the right to shine in the same fashion to anyone anywhere. Most often these accelerated media particles pursue their simple orbit of statutorily guaranteed admiration. But it happens that the mediatic transition provides the cover for many enterprises, officially independent but in fact secretly linked by various ad hoc networks. With the result that occasionally the social division of labour, along with the easily foreseeable solidarity of its use, reappears in quite new forms: for example, one can now publish a novel in order to arrange an assassination. Such picturesque examples also go to show that one should never trust someone because of their job.

But the highest ambition of the integrated spectacular is still that secret agents become revolutionaries, and that revolutionaries become secret agents."

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Date: 2007-01-09 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zazie-metro.livejournal.com
Hey, I remember that picture of the Queen. Love it still!

As for the hoopla, it's no surprise that so many people are appalled. It'll stay this way until people learn to ask more critical questions about imagery. I refer to two other image-based controversies:

1. Saddam's hanging: TV news programmes around the world broadcasted it repeatedly, versus
2. Stockhausen's 9/11 quote ("the greatest work of art"): "why would someone want to refer to an act of mass murder as art?"

And Kate's doing what she knows best, which is posing for a camera. When a famous photographer and a name like Armani are involved, she'll make no distinction whether the product sold is a bag or an epidemic. So, people find her selling AIDS awareness (yeah, painted black, whatever) to be more shocking than her colossal billboards across the world selling leather bags, perfume and decadent luxury...? To me, that sort of denial is far more alarming.

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Date: 2007-01-09 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
that sort of denial is far more alarming

Quite.

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From: [identity profile] nicepimmelkarl.livejournal.com - Date: 2007-01-09 02:28 pm (UTC) - Expand

What Stockhausen really said:

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Re: What Stockhausen really said:

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Good point.

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Date: 2007-01-09 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Kate Moss doesn't even look African American in that photo, it just looks like she's standing in bad lighting.

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Date: 2007-01-10 06:53 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
She doesn't really look like a human in that photo either. Her skin's too shiny.
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