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Partial as I am to the old bastard pop malarkey-type mashup from time to time (Gay Christmas Mr Lawrence being a recent example), I'd like to offer you today a little morsel I was toying with last night, a rickety splice between BMX Bandits' lovely cover of "Something About Us" and the original track by Daft Punk, with me playing a wobbly 80s string machine as I sing along through a vocoder. I've knocked the whole joint out of joint and given it my best verfremdungseffekt processing, but I'll be damned if the song doesn't still spill with gorgeous emotion. Some pop is just indestructible.

Something About Us (Momus / BMX Bandits / Daft Punk mashup, innit?) (stereo mp3 file 5.2MB, 5mins 40secs)

Some pop is just indestructible

Date: 2007-01-03 12:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Somptueuse pop... soft & beautiful.
Txs

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Date: 2007-01-03 12:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
MASHUPS ARE THE WHITE MANS REMIX

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Date: 2007-01-03 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamcoreyd.livejournal.com
Why do you post in all caps?

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Date: 2007-01-03 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-mimic736.livejournal.com
I DONT KNOW IT CAME THAT WAY WHEN I BOUGHT IT

I GET ASKED THAT A LOT L0L (http://mimic.livejournal.com/1682019.html?mode=reply)

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Date: 2007-01-03 01:11 am (UTC)

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Date: 2007-01-03 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-newironsh15.livejournal.com
there is a 3-part series in le devoir about berlin's reconstruction... part #2 in the jan 3 issue will be about the arts in berlin.

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Date: 2007-01-03 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] afoxdrinksblood.livejournal.com
Dude, that's really fuckin awesome.

It seems like there's something a hair off about the beat, at least towards the beginning, the way the vocals correspond to the beat, I don't know if it fixed or I got used to it by the end, but anyway it was fuckin great.

Good job.

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Date: 2007-01-03 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Yes, the beat comes in way off, I did some versions where it was dead on, but somehow they were more dead. I like how it drifts into sync (because of digital glitches -- the Daft Punk track was recorded off the YouTube video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=QFYX8Y5xrl0), and a couple of frames got dropped because my processor couldn't play a YouTube video and record an AIFF file at the same time). Anyway, I like the vulnerability of how it flutters and wows and drifts in and out of time, as if a really bad DJ were mashing it up, ahem!

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Date: 2007-01-03 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] afoxdrinksblood.livejournal.com
Lol!
I hear that.
I always have to move the dots around on drum tracks to make it feel a little more real. There's something entirely off about sterile perfection.

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Date: 2007-01-03 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Good pots (http://imomus.livejournal.com/250397.html) (and pans) have errors (http://imomus.livejournal.com/250397.html)!

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Date: 2007-01-03 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] afoxdrinksblood.livejournal.com
For the west, I think the key from that article is this quote:
"...adopting the rough raku aesthetic wholesale was a way of passing off typical British incompetence as a virtue."


Although I subscribe fullheartedly to the need for imperfections, I am endlessly irritated by the modern westerner's excuses for lazyness and lack of strength in the persuit of great creations.
It seems that now more than ever, the idiot's scribbles are touted as "rough" brilliance, when it takes real genius to scribble and make it good. In fact, more than it takes to make perfection.
It's like going all the way, then coming back to the middle. Most people figure that if you can just go to the middle, why keep going, but they don't see the world the same as those who went to the otherside before coming back, and that's such a clear difference that's not emphasized by the groups and scenes that are touting the ragged edges in the west. At least, often it seems to be this way.



The Full Quote:
"...Leach's emphasis on imperfection was quite different in the British context than it would have been in Japan. Whereas Japan needed some emphasis on humble materials and asymmetry to counterbalance a tradition of exquisite high quality finishes, Britain probably needed to develop sophistication; adopting the rough raku aesthetic wholesale was a way of passing off typical British incompetence as a virtue."

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Date: 2007-01-03 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Yes, and I think there's a parallel with the similarities / differences between Japanese and English self-deprecation. As I concluded in this entry (http://imomus.livejournal.com/143400.html), when a Japanese person says he's crap at something he intends to improve his performance. When an Englishman does the same, it's usually an appeal to be loved "warts and all". You can't assume any intention to do better in future.

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Date: 2007-01-03 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] afoxdrinksblood.livejournal.com
Lol. Yeah.
I read that article, the latter portion was the most interesting.

It seems that in both cases the situation for us westerners is sort of vague. In either case, some people will love your attitude, others will hate it.

I myself, found myself (in America, my homeland) having something appreciated by someone "oh that's wonderful, how'd you do it?? etc., and it not measuring up to my ultimate goals I'd say I think it's rather crap, and their tune would change... "well I guess you're right". And they'd stop telling all their friends to take a look. But if I took something that I later decided was crap, and said "Hey, check this awesome thing out that I did!" they'd totally be on board even if it wasn't the kind of thing they'd normally like.

To me, the necessity for self inflation in this country symbolizes the overall lack of dedication to understanding and wishy washy opinions of a great deal of the country. Restaurants I can't even eat at they're so bad are touted as "the shit" cause they've got the right image or promotion, and others looked at AS shit because no one would even bother to try them, are 5 times better for half the cash.

I supppose this is the fault of modern pop culture and the death of the craftsman, the understanding of true quality in all realms is being lost to the power of media, brainwashing, and popular opinion. (trends).
Also, the loss of hands on experience with the world in general leaves us knowing only the side of the consumer with little understanding of what goes into making things. It only follows that one wouldn't understand the product.

The thing that I think defines the difference between Japanese and Western (American anyway) method, is that Japan is based on pre-existing systems that one is meant to learn to become a better individual (if in no other way, just in the assumption that one would want to learn from a master), whereas the epitome of ideal American thought is based in exploration and the forming of ones own opion on the matter. Total unfettered self accomplishment is the ultimate in pure original creation.

This probably makes us much better candidates for stumbling across new ideas, like an open petrie dish, but like the hundredth monkey writing Shakspear, it leaves the rest of the monkeys with a whole lotta gibberish spewing out all over the page and the world has to sort it out.

Living amongst such rubbish, having the word of the media preached at you on a daily basis, it's no wonder our empty headed youth are a hodgepodge and rarely sent in a direction that will acheive anything great, let alone understand what greatness is!

As a result, I'd have to say America's opinion/understanding is not very reliable.... Sometimes it's bloody awful... and sometimes it's incredible.

In the end, I guess the goal for anyone who wants to be understood is to learn how to mean what you say no matter who you're speaking with, recognizing that even in english, conversations may be had in several differend languages of understanding.

It must be hard then, to have one's words published, not knowing who's perception is contorting them into what view of you and their meaning.




You seem to get alot of Broadcast play with your words, do you try to find the right words for your audience, or assume that the right audience will find your words?

Anyway the conundrum lies in diversity, and I guess that in that we must sacrifice unity and settle on elitism to satisfy the needs of those who wish to understand and be understood.

Hmmm, I seem to be rambling now, and who'd want to read such a tangent of rather crap words, though half brilliant if I may say so myself. lol. ;P

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Date: 2007-01-03 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qscrisp.livejournal.com
"and who'd want to read such a tangent of rather crap words".

I read them, Loneliness of the Valley of the Wind.

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Date: 2007-01-03 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Lol.
Thanks.

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Date: 2007-01-03 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubow-org.livejournal.com
Love the track.

Looking forward to your set on Friday!

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Date: 2007-01-03 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cutup.livejournal.com
I only read the entries from Eno and Rushkoff, but this seems like it might be up your alley:
http://edge.org/q2007/q07_index.html

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Date: 2007-01-03 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddf.livejournal.com
Oh, I love the warbly, broken record player vibe throughout. The beat being misaligned at the beginning annoyed me until it got itself back in sync. Good to read that was intentional, anyway. And you're right, it's pretty hard to destroy what is at the root an awesome pop song.

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Date: 2007-01-03 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicepimmelkarl.livejournal.com
american. it's got an ebony sort of feel to it. the cher bit in the middle i'm not so sure. basically a potential pet shop boys number one. a touch of 10cc. it's a sad day when toby went away. sweet. i love it. background vocals sampled? who is it?

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Date: 2007-01-03 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicepimmelkarl.livejournal.com
was a sad day. sorry.

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Date: 2007-01-03 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Duglas can't hear the mashup because his computer is ill, he says (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=42721540&blogID=212933101)! But he seems pleased about it.

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Date: 2007-01-04 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xvs.livejournal.com
yay, what a present for those who'll never see you live on 4/5 january %))

beautiful track!
heh...
christmassy

thanks!

My computer is ill but I got to hear it now

Date: 2007-01-04 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daddyduglas.livejournal.com
I really love it. Somehow it nails the emotions of the song with its combination of the chaos and beauty. I think this is possibly more poignant than either our BMX Bandits version or the Daft Punk original.

something about us

Date: 2007-10-07 11:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
beautiful song it is, momus!