Japanowama

Oct. 25th, 2006 12:00 am
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Oscar Wilde, who was right about almost everything, once said: "In fact the whole of Japan is a pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people."

He was certainly almost right about that. And, in the absence of an objective Japan, half the world (including the Japanese) expends a great deal of effort inventing versions of the place, then trying to convince the other half that the place they're creating really exists.

Let's say you're an anglophone and you want to understand Japan. Who do you turn to? Who do you trust? Who can put it all into English for you? Forget me (I don't speak the language), forget Marxy (he thought those silly Zuiikin Japanese calisthenics language learning videos were real). No, here's your man:



The name's Woss, Jonathan Woss, and he's a British television presenter. Actually, his name is Ross, but, as he self-deprecatingly points out in Japanorama, his two-series survey of Japanese pop culture for the BBC, the Japanese are not the only ones who have trouble pronouncing their Rs. Be aware, as you YouTube through this stuff in 6 minute slices, that Woss' speech impediment once made him say (in Asian Invasion, his gory survey of Asian film) that one of his interviewees "wanks amongst the best of his genewation".

I can't bring myself to dislike Woss. As a Bowiephile and Japanophile, he's obviously a man of my own stwipe. And, by some odd quirk (mainly because I was dating a Smash Hits journalist who got free tickets) I happened to be in the studio audience for his very first television show, The Last Resort, back in 198 -- well, the date is iwwelevant, weally. Series 1 of Japanorama was made back in 2002. Series 2 is currently screening, and you can find clips here.

What interests me is just how British Japanorama's Japanophilia is. Here, the UK looks at Japan and sees its own future; gadget-driven, marketing-crazy, sex-mad, ultra-violent.

Another BBC documentary series, Sex in Japan, reminds us that there aren't just two parties involved in admiring British examinations of Japan, though. At least, not when you watch them on YouTube. YouTube, you see, is an American service. And although you can watch Part 1 of the BBC documentary -- learning, for instance, that in Japan "sex and the naked body are seen as something beautiful and to be openly enjoyed" -- you can't watch Part 2, because "the second part was rejected (content inappropriate) by YouTube". You'll also search in vain for Episode 3 of the first series of Japanorama; the Sex Episode. Although the BBC considered it appropriate to show its viewers, YouTube didn't. "Japanorama approaches the subject of Japanese sexuality in a way that only the frank British media could expose," says Pulsing Cinema in its episode guide.

This isn't, then, a simple matter of two nations admiring (and constructing) each other. A third is present, mediating the relationship, watching, listening... and, when it disapproves, silencing.

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Date: 2006-10-24 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bifteck.livejournal.com
I've always had a love-hate relationship with that upper-crust English speech "impediment."

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Date: 2006-10-24 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mini-snape.livejournal.com
You think it's put on? I thought he was just from that part of London where no-one pronounces their r's, like Edward Ka-spel.

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Date: 2006-10-24 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bifteck.livejournal.com
No, I think it's real. But the "no-R" accent and the "aristocratic R-becomes-W" accent are different. Ever heard Rik on Young Ones?

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Date: 2006-10-24 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_____lastnite/
That is funny because I live in America and the people who actually have that kind of speech impediment in which they pronounce their R's as W's don't sound aristocratic at all. It's usually a source of embarassment for them because they sound silly. It is something unfortunate, not an affectation. They usually try very hard to get rid of it by going to speech therapists when they are young.

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Date: 2006-10-24 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bifteck.livejournal.com
I agree, it is a funny reversal. But it's for real. The "aristocratic R-becomes-W" isn't usually a complete "W" sound, it's somewhere in between the "R" and the "W" but leaning toward "W". You may have to actually hear it to really get it, I think.

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Date: 2006-10-25 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gravalicious.livejournal.com
Woss doesn't have an "aristocratic R-becomes-W". It's just a plain old speech impediment. You don't he's upper crust do you?

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Date: 2006-10-25 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gravalicious.livejournal.com
Woss doesn't have an "aristocratic R-becomes-W". It's just a plain old speech impediment. You don't he's upper crust do you?

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Date: 2006-10-25 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bifteck.livejournal.com
I don't know for certain; I've never heard of the guy and I didn't watch the video. It was a guess.

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Date: 2006-10-25 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
Thackeray played with this upper crust accent in his Burlesques: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/lord_whimsy/Miscellany%20III/cocksparrows.gif

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Date: 2006-10-25 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bifteck.livejournal.com
Thackeray did that? Wow, I'll have to look into them.

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Date: 2006-10-24 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jake82.livejournal.com
What, those Zuiikin Japanese videos were a joke?? :( Now I'm sad.

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Date: 2006-10-24 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nickdoro.livejournal.com
In college, i took a class called "Lost In Translation" about Western perspectives of Japan. From Admiral Perry and Isabella Bird to WWII and "The Sword and the Chrysanthemum" to the new Yellow Peril flicks of the 1980s like Black Rain (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096933/) and Michael Crichton's Rising Sun (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107969/) (whose plot is identical to Jud Süß) and finally to Sofia Coppola's Lost In Translation. My conclusion is that it's been a wild and bumpy road, but Japan has today reached a point where it is no longer "scary" to the West. It's just kinda "cool" and "quirky". Not quite sure how I feel about that.

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Date: 2006-10-24 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wingedwhale.livejournal.com
Oscar Wilde was too busy being self-consciously witty and whimsical to be right about a single goddamn thing.

Is my country really doing that? I guess so. Japan is linked to the United States in many ways. The process you describe happens in video games, also. The game is developed and released in Japan, then the American version is produced. The European version is designed from the American. Because of localization, every game released in Europe passes through an American cultural filter, first.

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Date: 2006-10-24 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nickdoro.livejournal.com
You should read Wilde's statement in context (http://www.mnstate.edu/gracyk/courses/phil%20of%20art/wildetext.htm).

Wilde was making the point that "Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life"--in other words, it is artists who invent life:

The Japanese people are the deliberate self-conscious creation of certain individual artists. If you set a picture by Hokusai, or Hokkei, or any of the great native painters, beside a real Japanese gentleman or lady, you will see that there is not the slightest resemblance between them. The actual people who live in Japan are not unlike the general run of English people; that is to say, they are extremely commonplace, and have nothing curious or extraordinary about them. In fact the whole of Japan is a pure invention. There is no such country, there are no such people.... And so, if you desire to see a Japanese effect, you will not behave like a tourist and go to Tokio. On the contrary, you will stay at home and steep yourself in the work of certain Japanese artists, and then, when you have absorbed the spirit of their style, and caught their imaginative manner of vision, you will go some afternoon and sit in the Park or stroll down Piccadilly, and if you cannot see an absolutely Japanese effect there, you will not see it anywhere.

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Date: 2006-10-24 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
Wilde was often full of it, but I enjoy reading his critical writings for their artistry. It's fun to see how far he can string you along.

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Date: 2006-10-24 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qscrisp.livejournal.com
I don't know why I'm reading this quote for the first time. I thought I'd read a lot of Wilde. Anyway, I agree. It's quite brilliant.

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Date: 2006-10-25 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Huysmans stalks Wilde far more than Wilde stalks Huysmans. That is their tragedy.

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Date: 2006-10-24 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tundraboy.livejournal.com
Weally wemawkable bwog entwy.

paris syndrome

Date: 2006-10-24 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
momus it's interesting that you posted this right as i was surfing over to your blog to show you this:

msnbc.msn.com/id/15391010/?GT1=8618

it's a story about the so-called "paris syndrome," where japanese tourists who've had such an ideal image of the french capital finally travel there only to find rude citizens, forboding customer service and the like... consequently they suffer nervous breakdowns of sorts and require psychiatric care back in japan.

have you ever heard of such a thing in your travels?

Re: paris syndrome

Date: 2006-10-24 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
In that case, I have New Jersey Syndrome.

Re: paris syndrome

Date: 2006-10-24 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
you had a lovely ideal of NJ? i pretty much get just what i expect whenever i cross the hudson

Re: paris syndrome

Date: 2006-10-25 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
BTW: NJ state supreme court has just ruled that gay couples have the same marriage rights as heterosexual couples under the New Jersey state constitution.

"Bridge and tunnel", indeed.
From: [identity profile] lenoraclaire.livejournal.com
Not only is Ross a fan of Bowie and Japan, but he's a big Jodorowsky fan as well. Have you seen the other Japanarama (http://too-far-east.tripod.com/japanarama/) DVD's that go by the same name but are completely unrelated? They remind me of something people would buy off an infomercial when they've grown tired of the Girls Gone Wild series. You know, it features clips from Japanese tv's "wackiest" moments.

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Date: 2006-10-24 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mini-snape.livejournal.com
Yes, the British media are very frank. It's not like they put little curtains in front of the obscene paintings in museums with warnings saying the paintings are obscene and only old people can look at them, or anything.

Good thing, though, because otherwise I couldn't spend two hours laughing at it and embarrassing my roommate.

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Date: 2006-10-24 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Japan and sex. Now where have I heard that before? ;)

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Date: 2006-10-24 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Down at the Oxford Science Park, perhaps?

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Date: 2006-10-24 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Nope. Somewhere a bit closer to home... ;o)

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Date: 2006-10-24 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] craig-torso.livejournal.com
"A third is present, mediating the relationship, watching, listening... and, when it disapproves, silencing."

But only on YouTube.

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Date: 2006-10-24 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] destructo-ray.livejournal.com
You have no idea how good of a prep your bloggings are for my Japanese Studies class, Mr. Momus.

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Date: 2006-10-24 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As in "The Vapors"?

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Date: 2006-10-25 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grimgrim.livejournal.com
You are perceptive here. I have seen some of Mr Ross's television program and found it frustrating: its limitations are understandable, given the format, but they are limitations all the same. I disagree that one can extrapolate from Japanorama to the future of Britain, though; apart from the obvious absurdity of the exercise, one can't help but feel that the future here lies still further occidentally rather than orientally.

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Date: 2006-10-25 03:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've not seen the new ones. From the photo clearly someone told him to stop wearing the stoopid suits (and start dressing up like Nick Cage). What was the agenda with his wardrobe on the first series?

Obviously the "other" Japanarama DVDs represent the BBC not being able to or not wanting to bother enforcing against trademark violations.

As to Americans and Rs and Ws, that speech impediment is intertwined with over 60 years of Elmer Fudd and his other Warner friends, most of which have one of their own.

As for the show, I've seen all 6 of the original ones before youtube. Clearly the point is a "mondo" look at Japanese pop culture and I think he does an appreciable job doing that. I'm sure I learned some odds and ends and didn't expect and didn't find anything profound in them. I appreciated them much more than those shallow but seemingly promising you something companion shows like "Sex in Japan" or even worse "Music in Japan" with it's explanation of how Hiki might just be the future of Japanese music.

nick
technopop.info

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Date: 2006-10-25 05:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i.e. : qooqle does not bann any video but if you watch the same video on google post the infamous: "the second part was rejected (content inappropriate) by YouTube".

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Date: 2006-10-25 07:00 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just want to make another comment on that Sing-A-Ring thing.

Best thing I've heard for yonks.

sing a ching a ling

Date: 2006-10-25 07:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
WEll that ghastly sing a ring thing is of course pretty much like Bowie's Ching a Ling from yesteryear..... see it on Youtube at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih2OmajWfNE

yrs
www.psouper.co.uk

Re: sing a ching a ling/Bowie Triv.

Date: 2006-10-25 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's not ghastly, it's wonderful.

Ching-a-ling I recall from a bootleg I owned at one stage.

Interesting that it has the same backing vocal as Saviour Machine.

Also interesting that Move On from Lodger has the b. vocals from All The Young Dudes played backwards.

Hermione Farthingale wasn't much in the face.

Re: sing a ching a ling/Bowie Triv.

Date: 2006-10-25 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"Sing-a-ring" is Japanese pronunciation for "Ching-a-ling"

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Date: 2006-10-25 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cardindex.livejournal.com
Let's remind ourselves of Woss' weports from America if you want to talk about cultural myopia. Wearing snakeskin boots and driving a vintage cadillac through Baltimore to meet John Waters? I'm sure that's a typical day for many Americans.

I feel the need to mention Alex Cox for no particular reason.

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Date: 2006-10-25 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Xie xie (wo bu hui chu-yan)