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Land of the rising fun is a travel article in The Guardian this morning in which writer Ben Anderson raves about his first visit to Tokyo. He's impressed by the city's chic fashion stores, luxurious hotels and delicious restaurants. But, more than that, he likes its relative equality, and its sheer good nature:

"Most of Tokyo looks like the posh part of any other city. I didn't see an area that looked like it needed a good clean, let alone a slum, which is some achievement for one of the most populated cities on the planet... I experienced so much goodwill in Japan I'm sure it was genuine. Porters refused tips and a taxi driver turned the meter off when roadworks slowed us down."



To a London resident, these are indeed shocking things to discover. And, being British, Ben doesn't take long to turn his enthusiasm about Tokyo into reproaches against his motherland: "I came to see Tokyo in the same way as I saw the b Akasaka: a huge playground of such bright ideas and fantastic design that I barely noticed how cramped it could be. I was too busy being amazed and thinking "why haven't we got these? Why haven't we thought of this?!"

"The trip made such an impression on me," Ben concludes, "that I've developed a prejudice in favour of anything that comes from Japan. I've even had the urge to go up to Japanese people on the streets of London and say, "I know, I've been there. No one else knows how to do anything."

I must say that this was exactly my feeling after my first couple of trips to Tokyo. I could no longer stand London's brown buildings and grey sky, its hostile, arrogant, competitive, snottily class-obsessed citizens.

It's interesting, though, to wonder whether approval of one country has to be disapproval of another. And which other? It seemed natural for me to compare Tokyo to London, since I've spent more time in London than any other city (13 years, in total). If not London, the obvious comparison for me is New York. I rarely compare Tokyo with Paris, though. And actually, I'm not quite sure I could bring a clear winner out of the comparison. It's apples and oranges. One doesn't stand as a living reproach to the other; they both do what they do.



What about people? Do we implicitly deride "ordinary" people when we approve of, for instance, the eccentrics featured in street fashion magazines like Street, FRUiTS and Tune? (Photos here show some of the latest pages in all three of these magazines.)

I think there is an element of that going on, even if it's only a self-reproach directed against our own lack of daring. If these magazines are utopian, representing a world of peer-endorsed individuality ("I don't know what it means to you," the snapped snappy dressers seem to say, "but the other stall-holders at Camden Market seem to understand where I'm coming from"), they're also satirical. They mock the dull, if only by unspoken extension. But which dull? Certainly not the homeless, because several bums and down-and-outs feature in these shots. And not the old, either, because there are some oldies here too (I'm one!). People who buy clothes at The Gap? Office workers? The readers of more authoritarian, blingy, top-down, mainstream fashion mags?



Like Ben Anderson, I'm inclined, flipping through Street, to ask "Why don't we have this?" Why do I have to look at a Japanese magazine to see how the most interesting-looking people in London are dressing? Then, of course, I remember that Shoichi Aoki's template for these three magazines is a British one: Terry Jones's original idea for i-D magazine, based on the punk grassroots, DIY ethic, another London invention.

And I suppose that's why we choose certain cities, and not others, to be specifically reproached by the cities we love. It's as if we're saying: "Look, London, you claim to have invented this, so how come Tokyo does it better now? You're looking bad by your own standards."

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Date: 2006-09-23 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xishimarux.livejournal.com
We have this "Jocktacular" part that dominates here in the US. Raised on the values of girls should be girls and boys should be boys. Originality in Japan has this angrogenous feeling about it. Girls and boys could wear the same dress and have a different outlook. I see some guys wearing tight girl jeans around here but thats really mainstream now. I rarely see anyone rockin there own brand of clothing. Also I think people especially the younger set are just lazy sometimes. Creatively lazy I mean. The major clothing brands have it covered for you. Go to hot topic emo and blam! your punk when you come out.

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Date: 2006-09-23 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I'm actually wearing female jeans in the photo that's in the current Street. They have no hip pockets to avoid breaking up the line of my lovely bum. Ah, sorry, "ass". But your bottom is our donkey, our bottom your tramp, and our cigarette your homosexual.

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Date: 2006-09-23 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charleshatcher.livejournal.com
Your bottom is our cunt?

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Date: 2006-09-23 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charleshatcher.livejournal.com
(I'm seeing pink-and-white, glitter-sprinkled placards at gay-rights marches.)

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Date: 2006-09-23 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
Have you come across the New York blog http://thesartorialist.blogspot.com/ yet? I find myself checking it out each day - and often enjoying it - but it's far more hierarchical, 'fashion' focused and conformist than the examples you quote from London and Japan.

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Date: 2006-09-23 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I haven't seen it before, but based on a glance it seems oddly contradictory: these are informal street snaps of power brokers and insiders from the top-down Western fashion industry. "Love your pattern-matched collar and tie combo, Hamish Bowles!" and so on. As such, it's like a blog made by fawning paparazzi who'd do better, in my view, to turn away from the rich, the famous and the powerful and discover... the individual. The kids are doing it for themselves, and coming up with much better stuff, much cheaper.

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Date: 2006-09-23 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
Hence my 'hierarchical' comment. Perhaps the looking to the rich, the famous and the powerful for ideas is a very New York phenomenon (not that London is immune to that)?

There are individuals there - kids on the street making unusual choices and combinations with thrift store finds and carefully selected items from H&M etc.

I think that the particular characteristic of the blog is that, despite the presence of 'ordinary' people one is never far away from an idea of aspiration. Everything looks up towards the look (and labels) of "power brokers and insiders from the top-down Western fashion industry."

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Date: 2006-09-23 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Yes. And, you know, I've had dinner with Hamish Bowles and he's a nice enough man, but to be honest I find my penniless young art student friends a lot more stylish and creative. I'd never copy Hamish, but I'd copy them. For me, that's aspiration.

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Date: 2006-09-23 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
(But then I'm the sort of person who always likes the "before" pictures in cosmetics adverts better than the "after" ones, or thinks that the homeless bum thrown out of the fashion show in some Hollywood comedy is much better dressed than anyone inside the tent.)

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Date: 2006-09-23 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
(And it's worth saying that two of the people featured in Street and Tune this month actually are homeless people. You can see them on this page: the Berlin alcoholic and the old Japanese man who looks like Moondog.)

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Date: 2006-09-23 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
There is a wonderful piece by Michael Bracewell in this month's Wire magazine talking about the performances of Lindsay Kemp's Flowers at the Roundhouse in 1977. While it starts with the exoticism of the performance it peaks with its description of the audience.

"I remember scruitinising the audience and seeing some fantastically cool looking people: boys dressed in beautifully cut, second-hand suits that dated, by appearance, from the 1920s; their hair very short and slicked back with pomade; one wearing brass framed spectacles. Young women like characters from one of Colette's reminiscences of Paris in the 1910s: black sheath dresses, veils, cigarette holders, dark blue celluloid glasses...

To my ravenous awe, as one who had made the epic journey from the outer suburbs, and had little idea of how he would return thence, should the show run late, these creatures of the night were the last word in glamour; the inhabitants, it seemed, of a self-created aristocracy ('Thems', to use a Peter York term from 1976 denoting street aesthetes), their image describing nostalgia for archaic visions of modernity."

I remember these people, aped them (or at least was inspired by some of them) and had forgotten about it all for a while. Wonder what happened to them all. They weren't at all retro, they were similar to some of the people who turned up later at Bowery's Taboo - willing to quote from all eras to produce a very personal take on the present. I like self-created aristocrats - a status conferred through aesthetic choices rather than lineage - far better than aristocrats.

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Date: 2006-09-23 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I used to knock around with Bracewell a bit in the late 80s. In fact, he may even have been at that dinner with Hamish Bowles. My song "The New Decameron" is a tribute to him, in fact. I half like what he says in your quote, but "a self-created aristocracy" is still a bit embarrassing if it looks like the cast for an amateur production of "Brideshead Revisited". I'm more into the idea of Trampocracy. In fact, if this magazine existed, I'd probably buy it:

Image

The closest thing is probably Tibor Kalman's brilliant book Unfashion (http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=17-0810945002-0).

tramp

Date: 2006-09-23 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Somehow I don't think I'll be photographing any people
at the soup kitchen this week - too busy washing up from
a place setting for 300. I hope these folk were compensated
at the going rate for number of column inches they're filling.

Re: tramp

Date: 2006-09-23 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It would be a good idea to have a fashion magazine featuring homeless people that only homeless people could sell, though, wouldn't it? I'd buy it.

Re: tramp

Date: 2006-09-23 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akabe.livejournal.com
there is actually a small one-man kind of magazine in japan that does that. quite irregular. can`t recall the name now

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Date: 2006-09-23 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
Didn't take 'self-created aristocracy' to mean that they were trying to look like faux aristocrats, more as a self-licensing elite.

As for their style - think it owed more to Biba than Brideshead. Even if they were trying to look like fake-aristos -rather than wierd personal takes on citizens of Weimar Germany, Bowie-in-Berlin, 20s jazzers, and 30s Hollywood stars, which is how I remember them - then I think there is a difference between trying to look like someone from Brideshead long before it was screened and trying to look like it after!

To be fair to The Sartorialist he runs regular features on 'old man style', workwear etc and though most of the comments about him are pretty fair there is more to him than just a fashion name check.

photos of homeless people

Date: 2006-10-03 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metatherian.livejournal.com
I thought you might find interest in these:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stoneth/
From: [identity profile] bubs.livejournal.com
I'm glad you said this,
"It's interesting, though, to wonder whether approval of one country has to be disapproval of another."
because without it, saying this,
"I could no longer stand London's brown buildings and grey sky, its hostile, arrogant, competitive, snottily class-obsessed citizens."
made you very much part of the problem.
Although I am not 100% sure that the unfriendlyness of cities is completely caused by the attitudes of the well travelled.
;)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Ha ha, touché!

My first Japan trips were well-funded concert tours, so I was able to take 4 of my London friends along in the guise of musicians, tour managers etc. When we got back, the friends who hadn't gone found us unbearable to be with: they called us "the Japan Club". Whether you were or weren't in "the Japan Club" was definitely a class divide.

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Date: 2006-09-23 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonsai-human.livejournal.com
Maybe I went to the wrong places, but I was massively disappointed by my ever-so-brief trip to Tokyo.

The lasting impression was that of beige buildings and many, many business men in identical black suits. It seemed even more money-driven than London. It was certainly not a city sustained by its fringe element - indeed, its fringe element appeared only to be the bored children of business men, dressing up for fun on the weekend before disappearing back into school uniform like every other teen who ever lived.

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Date: 2006-09-23 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Well, the city's charm is chimera-like, and in Tokyo Chronicles (http://imomus.com/thought020501.html) I was willing to speculate on whether they weren't entirely spectral, some sort of mind game Tokyo manages to play with some of us (and clearly not all of us).

Sure, everything you say there is also true, but you only need to drift once through the milky night from a cafe to a love hotel to a ramen bar, with an ancient moon floating over the futuristic illuminations, feeling completely safe as you mingle with a friendly and joyful crowd of beautiful, pale-faced ghosts... to know the magic energy that pervades those ugly beige concrete boxes.

For me, at least, the drugs do work. I'm on Prospero's Island the moment I hear the chimes at Shinjuku station.

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Date: 2006-09-23 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'd prefer it if our streets looked like this

Image

-henryperri

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Date: 2006-09-23 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
If you like that kind of thing, Toyko Disney Sea (http://www.travellerspoint.com/photos/4315/large_IMG_0728.JPG) is just a short ride from the centre of town.

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Date: 2006-09-23 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
There's also the rather mind-blowing indoors Italian Village (http://static.flickr.com/24/47651340_ef5456cbe3_m.jpg) mall at Odaiba. You're really on drugs when you walk through that.

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Date: 2006-09-23 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
ImageAnd the thing about the Italian Village mall is that not only is the whole thing trompe l'oeuil, it's built on fake land, reclaimed from the sea. You're standing in an illusion, on an illusion. (The supasento next door is also worth a visit -- you walk in your yukata in a spooky Edo village, also entirely indoors and quite spectral. If you lie in the rotenburo bit, you can see jets roaring overhead, lights flashing, as they descend towards Haneda.)

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Date: 2006-09-23 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That's all quite neat. But I'd bet the people milling about these places are not also dressed to the nines in turquoise suits and such, as the people in the poster are, but in the usual jeans and t-shirts. Which is fine, but stops short of my utopian vision.

henryperri

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Date: 2006-09-23 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh wow, when I first saw that picture it looked a lot like the shopping and restaurant area of a casino I went to in Indiana.
However, it doesn't make the transition of day to night... And you have pseudo gladiators walking around everywhere. Kind of lame.

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Date: 2006-09-23 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheapsurrealist.livejournal.com
You're looking bad by your own standards.

...said The World to the U.S.

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Date: 2006-09-23 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] destructo-ray.livejournal.com
Glad someone mentioned The Satorialist, while reading this entry I kept thinking of all these US-based photo blogs dedicated to capturing American street fashion.
And Nylon had just released their Street (http://www.amazon.com/Street-Nylon-Book-Global-Style/dp/0789315017/sr=8-1/qid=1159027046/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-2333300-7939935?ie=UTF8&s=books) book. I'm going out to buy my copy today. Even though Nylon's issues have seriously declined when it comes to content for the past two years. However, I think a lot of Americans are becoming more aware of street fashion, I mean, there's Cobra Snake and Misshapes which is becoming extremely popular (Cory Kennedy-- the female face of The Cobra Snake has her own livejournal fan communities. One for just worshipping her (http://community.livejournal.com/corykennedyy/) and one for trying to find out where she buys all her clothes or how to best mimic her style (http://community.livejournal.com/coryklothes/)).
I don't think the American street fashion is as exciting as what you might see in Europe or Japan... And it's not as "real" either, most people here just are trying to copy someone else. I think in Japan especially they just throw on whatever they like and it works well most of the time. Here it's much more calculated, I think. "What will best make me look like this person or that person?"

The Nylon Street book, for instance, I think the cover of it looks a lot like a not-as-well executed copy of a FRUiTS back-issue, this (http://tomoyo.lenin.ru/Fruits8/Picture5.jpg) FRUiTS cover. But I'm a bit paranoid and favor Japan as well, so...

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Date: 2006-09-23 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charleshatcher.livejournal.com
Do we implicitly deride "ordinary" people when we approve of, for instance, the eccentrics featured in street fashion magazines like Street, FRUiTS and Tune?

If we do then we're being just as elitist as the cash-fashion tag-hags who find esteem through labels.

Photos here show some of the latest pages in all three of these magazines.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but many of the styles included in these magazines seem to me to be a little dull and mundane.

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Date: 2006-09-23 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Not enough of the old Noel-Coward-wearing-a-sun-visor stuff going on, eh?

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Date: 2006-09-23 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charleshatcher.livejournal.com
Yes, this is why I prefer looking in mirrors to fashion magazines.

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Date: 2006-09-24 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charleshatcher.livejournal.com
Image

This is more like it, right? It just screams FRUiT! -- Sorry (Fraudian blip): FRUiTS!

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Date: 2006-09-24 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It's like a novelty-lite version of a FRUiTS girl from 1997. Lacks gravitas. Poor colour-control. Way too much going on. The trousers are good, though. Start with those, and just keep everything else very controlled. You could even get away with the jacket too if you eliminate colour and pattern from everything else.

Also, the heart on the bowler has to go.

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Date: 2006-09-24 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charleshatcher.livejournal.com
Image

Less colour. Happy now?