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Just when you weren't particularly waiting for a book about Rough Trade, along come two at once.



Rob Young's book on the pioneering indie label has just been published. Which means that Paul Cox's, still forthcoming, has been pipped rather cruelly to the promo post.

The Guardian has gone overboard promoting Young's book which, at a cursory glance, seems rather coffeetable compared with Cox's (which claims to be "part authorised biography of Geoff Travis" and to model itself on David Cavanagh's exemplary book about Creation). Today's paper contains a reminiscence by Philip Hoare about his days "working" for the label in the early 80s, and the other day the Guardian ran this splendid Jill Furmanovsky photo of a young (and surprisingly good looking) Genesis P Orridge flogging the latest Throbbing Gristle offering to Geoff Travis back in 1978.



Since everybody is waxing lyrical about the label, I thought I'd scribble down my loose, oblique associations too. I remember a visit, way back in early 1982, to their legendary Blenheim Crescent warehouse, notoriously scented with brown rice and ganja. I was with my first band, The Happy Family, and we'd recently made a demo with Josef K's Malcolm Ross on guitar. Geoff Travis took the tape into his glass DJ booth and listened to it, then returned to tell us he "didn't think the guitars sounded committed enough". Which was his witty way of saying that he'd heard that Malcolm had joined Orange Juice, and that the guitarist was the best thing we had going for us. I remember the warehouse rocking to "Candyskin" by The Fire Engines while we were there; this was the record that was going to break them through. It didn't. It broke them up instead.

My next contact with Rough Trade was in 1988, when Creation was using their art department. By now they'd scored big with The Smiths, and had moved to new premises near King's Cross. I had to go and check the proofs for the "Tender Pervert" sleeve. The building felt haunted by Morrissey, I remember, and you couldn't quite forget all those rankling songs he'd written about Geoff Travis saying he "just hadn't earned it yet, baby". As it happened, the art department at Rough Trade was run by a very pretty blonde girl called Sallie Fellows, who became my girlfriend, leading to a certain amount of after-work drinking with the Rough Trade staff in King's Cross pubs. The affair didn't last long; Sallie met KLF timelord Bill Drummond, married him and had his babies. (She was commemorated on "Hippopotamomus" with a song about masturbating monkeys which she claimed to be too scared to listen to.) Rough Trade also didn't last long: in 1992 it went out of business for several years, stripping down to a distribution hub.

Geoff Travis did well as a manager in the 90s, with Pulp and others on his books. He revived Rough Trade as a label, and currently has some big acts signed. He's lost his signature afro and now looks like this.

My more recent contacts with Rough Trade are just as a consumer dropping into a series of excellent but short-lived record shops in Paris (Rue de la Roquette) and Tokyo (Cat Street). They've both gone, but the Slam City Skates store in London's Covent Garden is still there, and still a regular point of call for me. Somehow, when I'm in there, I feel like music still has the scale and meaning it had for me when I was in my 20s: small scale, big meaning.

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Date: 2006-09-05 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] armoredbaby.livejournal.com
Wait -- wait -- ncie Art Garfunkel look going on there!

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Date: 2006-09-05 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Yeah, Genesis is Donovan there, and Geoff is Garfunkel! What a bizarre meeting! But it reminds you that the 60s were only 8 years behind, and still loomed big in the rear-view mirror.

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Date: 2006-09-05 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixelmist.livejournal.com
She was commemorated on "Hippopotamomus" with a song about masturbating monkeys which she claimed to be too scared to listen to.

Oh, to commemorate an ex-girlfriend that way! You've given me a new mission, sir.

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Date: 2006-09-05 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
I worked at Rough Trade in 1977 and don't buy all the idealising of the place. Geoff Travis was, in the 60s parlance he loved so well, a 'bread head' - haven't seen anything about his career since that makes me change my mind. The customers gave the shop meaning - and a direction -that its owner(s) didn't have, they were just opportunists.

Still shop at the branch at Slam City Skates and I get a far stronger feeling of commitment to music there than I ever did at the original shop.

Books about shops now. Will 'rock' music ever tire of navel gazing? It's weighed down by its history. What next? Books about individual punters and their record collections? Though with Thurston Moore's book on Mixtapes I guess that this may have already started happening?

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Date: 2006-09-05 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Books about shops now.

To be fair, Rough Trade was both a shop and a record label. And, some say, a "state of mind". But yeah, it is all terrible navel-gazing, and a sign that music is pretty much over but for the nostalgia industry spin-offs.

What next? Books about individual punters and their record collections?

Eureka! You just invented Nick Hornby!

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Date: 2006-09-05 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
I'd forgotten about Nick Hornby. He eulogises sport in the same way: his life built around boring Arsenal games and worthy indie records from the mid-80s. I can't imagine anything more tedious.

I'd also forgotten Dylan Jones' paean of praise to the iPod and his astonishing ability to programme playlists under such innovative headings as 'Jazz', 'Dance' and 'Rock'.

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Date: 2006-09-05 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mini-snape.livejournal.com
Hahaha. To think I liked him when I was 13. I must have been a sad, sad case.

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Date: 2006-09-05 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tajmall.livejournal.com
"Books about individual punters and their record collections?":

Try: Hornby, N: "(insert appropriate number here) Songs".

I took a peek at it once, but I didn't see much about music in the sections my eyes scanned.

There was someone I knew from New York who was in the midst of writing a book about the history of Rock Critics. I am not joking. Dawn Eden. Freelanced for Mojo. I ran. She since became part of "Jews for Jesus" and rants about abortion.

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Date: 2006-09-05 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
Thanks for this. "a book about the history of Rock Critics" - one really couldn't make this up!

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Date: 2006-09-05 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jasongtokyo.livejournal.com
Don't forget about the inevitable book about the history of rock music books -- my favourite being "A Tourist's Guide to Japan."

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Date: 2006-09-05 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
And the book detailing the books detailing the history of rock music books... meta ad infinitum...

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Date: 2006-09-06 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kubia.livejournal.com
Hehe, a former flatmate of mine has published a book on music journalism (http://www.ventil-verlag.de/buecher/popgesch/popjournalismus.htm), but has since decided to write some itself. Guess, that's a step up the ladder.

rock c*it

Date: 2006-09-06 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tajmall.livejournal.com

Mostly likely it's lost in the mailbox of a long-since expired email address, but I might be able to find the title of this tome (that I assume remains unpublished), if it's of interest.

Re: rock c*it

Date: 2006-09-06 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
Of course, I think we should be warned, just in case it ever is published!

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Date: 2006-09-05 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steviecat.livejournal.com
Aren't there a bunch of CD compilations about shops too ? Granny Takes A Trip (I think) and Biba have had comps based around them of late...

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Date: 2006-09-06 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
For my sins I was quite tempted by the Biba one, visiting it was a memorable experience (I found out recently that, at one point in the early 70s, there was a Brighton branch - I don't remember it). I think it is called Champagne and Novocaine. The mix of songs was quite fun and reminds me of a crowd long gone - but immortalised in this month's Wire in an excellent article by Michael Bracewell.

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Date: 2006-09-05 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mini-snape.livejournal.com
Who buys all those awful books about rock n roll, anyway? A biography or chronicle of a movement, maybe, yes, but only for anecdotal value. But a book about mixtapes? That's just sad.

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Date: 2006-09-05 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
Agree with you, and here I speak as someone who is no stranger about chronicles of movemehts. Although I have an unhealthily obsessive interest in the minutiae of cults and their uniforms it's always from the punters' point of view, not the stars.

And could I just pause to mention that your icon is very funny.

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Date: 2006-09-06 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mini-snape.livejournal.com
Thank you! I didn't make it, heraliceeyes did, but she gave it to me because I made a story out of it. Yours is lovely too, it always strikes me when I see it on a thread.

And a factual chronicle of a movement can be very useful, especially for those who are too young to have been there themselves.

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Date: 2006-09-06 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
Thank you too!

Small scale, big meaning

Date: 2006-09-05 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tajmall.livejournal.com
"Small scale, big meaning" is a four-word combo worth appropriating. Thanks for that. And thanks for that wonderful contribution to the Bran Van record which puts another pin on your map -- this time in Singapore where it's a regular on my DJ playlist.

Re: Small scale, big meaning

Date: 2006-09-05 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tajmall.livejournal.com
playlist being along lines of :

http://tajmall.livejournal.com/90067.html

Re: Small scale, big meaning

Date: 2006-09-05 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Ah yes, "by many names I've been known, Gil Martin, also Don Van Vliet, Giovanni, Mantovani, Barry Manilow, I could go on..."

Re: Small scale, big meaning

Date: 2006-09-05 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tajmall.livejournal.com
I don't know who takes the credit for it, but it is the sauciest record I know. Thank you.

Re: Small scale, big meaning

Date: 2006-09-05 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It was the fruit of a virtual flirtation with the gorgeous Liane Balaban (http://imomus.com/vd030980.jpg), who wrote me a letter one day out of the blue saying she would love to "don a lapdog". Who could fail to feel saucy around Liane?

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Date: 2006-09-05 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cityramica.livejournal.com
check. had a crush on her thanks to your essays circa 98/99, then listening to her radio show and seeing "new waterford girl". i like cute canadian girls. not that i ever spoke to her.

&monkey for sallie...need to listen to it now. o.k.

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Date: 2006-09-05 09:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Epiphany to Swell Maps and Rough Trade, Stephen Pastel, The Wire

(...) I started to notice that a lot of the records I liked best were on a label called Rough Trade, and after reading an old Paul Morley review, I decided to take the plunge with the fantastic sounding Swell Maps, one of the few groups that my new friend didn't have any records by. 'A Trip To Marineville' was such a jolt to my senses that even now when I hold it in my hands and look at the front cover of a suburban house spontaneously combusting, I can't help but feel slightly nostalgic for my 16 year old self, just about to play it for the first time. There I am, glazed then captivated, playing it over and over, notching the volume a little more each time, trying to squeeze a little more out of it. I wanted to rationalize it like Paul Morley or something, and I thought, well, this sounds pretty wild, but I have heard wilder music. But I hadn't heard wilder pop music and that was Swell Maps' trump-card; joyous, uplifting, full-on destructo-pop, abstracting unexpectedly into real moments of beauty. I was faced with a dilemma; should I share it with my wee pal or was this just meant to be my thing? I thought of all the little pricks back in the common-room and decided I didn't want to be elitist; I would be a Swell Maps crusader. First I needed to buy everything I could by Swell Maps which at the time was only three singles, though fortunately there were side-projects too. Next I felt I needed to start thinking like a Map by getting into other music they cited, like Rough Trade label-mates The Raincoats and Television Personalities, and their influences: Faust, Can and This Heat. After a while I'd gone hardcore and was getting my music direct from Rough Trade shop in Ladbroke Grove where Swell Maps sometimes worked. Occasionally there'd be a friendly note in alongside the crazy amounts of records and fanzines I was now buying. Back then Rough Trade just seemed to have all bases covered; every aspect of a music culture I craved, and their mail came to me part Red Cross parcel, part Open University correspondence. Researching this piece I started to re-read these fanzines with names like Let's Be Adult About This, Real Shocks and Station Alien. Immediately I was reminded of the high-quality graphics, the warmth of the writing and the spirit of adventure. These qualities inevitably reflect the parent culture; mostly the stance that Rough Trade had taken in building on punk's nihilism to foster an educated, inquisitive fanbase that for a while dismantled the by then bloated punk star system, and shifted the emphasis back onto music and a new community. I will never forget the thrill of following a label whose uncontrived eclecticism introduced me to everything from Metal Urbain to Robert Wyatt, and from Augustus Pablo to Cabaret Voltaire. I always tried to remember the lessons I'd taken from that era of Rough Trade as I left school and started to learn how to make music for myself. Soon I found I was making contact with people who'd been similarly drawn to the label, like my friend David who was obsessed with building a fuzzbox that would simultaneously emulate the two great treble sounds of The Raincoats; their rhythm guitar and violin. By then Swell Maps had split, but their music never really left my life, and it was through them that I met a soul-mate who encouraged me to believe we had it within us to participate in, and add something to the music culture that we loved.

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Date: 2006-09-05 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steviecat.livejournal.com
Waterstone's said the other day that the Paul Cox book's now due in 2007 ! It was in a publisher's catalogue I was sent a couple of years ago, so has been very much delayed.

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Date: 2006-09-05 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
May 1st 2007 is the date listed on Amazon. So expect a second round of Rough Trade nostalgia next spring.

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Date: 2006-09-05 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boof-boy.livejournal.com
But who is the cute chap in the cravat?!

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Date: 2006-09-05 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klasensjo.livejournal.com
That would be Genesis P-Orridge. Now (s)he looks like this:
Image

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Date: 2006-09-05 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boof-boy.livejournal.com
No - the one in the back!

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Date: 2006-09-05 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jasongtokyo.livejournal.com
From Brett Anderson or Phillip Cocu to that horrorshow?

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Date: 2006-09-05 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desant012.livejournal.com
Wow, I think Genesis was hitting on me at the Econo-Lodge bar in Hackensack, New Jersey.

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Date: 2006-09-06 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
Ever try to read his online rants? He's putting tits on his grammar, spelling and syntax, too.

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Date: 2006-09-06 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] armoredbaby.livejournal.com
Great f-n ghost. Who snuck liquor into the Cracker Barrel? (http://www.crackerbarrel.com/about.cfm?doc_id=3) Look at that Mah Johnng nail polish!

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Date: 2006-09-05 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violet-hemlock.livejournal.com
Oh how adorable young Gen is...

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Date: 2006-09-05 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zdover.livejournal.com
Momus:

My name is Zac.

I am no fool.

I will be moving to Berlin, for graduate study and the other reasons people move to Berlin, and this will happen in three weeks.

I'd like to introduce myself.

I'm Zac.

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Date: 2006-09-05 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Good luck crossing the Atlantic, and welcome!

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Date: 2006-09-06 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
Gawd, its like when every middle-aged collector scum I know wouldn't stop talking about that Creation Records book that came out a few years back. Doesn't anyone talk about shoes anymore, for heaven's sake?
From: [identity profile] tim-ellison.livejournal.com
What a statement! Surely, not any more "over" than any other art form/medium - it's just postmodernism, yeah?
From: (Anonymous)
I know you hate music's 'navel gazing', but you could write an amazing autobiography. I've been listening to Monkey for Sallie for 16 years, and never knew that story.

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Date: 2006-09-10 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It's worth noting that a really great interview with Genesis P-Orridge appears on the Wire's website. It's an extended Invisible Jukebox (http://www.thewire.co.uk/web/unpublished/genesis_p-orridge.html), but goes all over the place.