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imomus ([personal profile] imomus) wrote2006-05-09 10:56 am

Fogey disses

I saw Art School Confidential last night. Although I snorted with amusement at a lot of the jokes, I was somewhat annoyed by the film. First of all, by its dyspeptic misanthropy, its "moronic cynicism". The film is posited on the idea that everybody in the world it portrays is a delusional asshole. And yet this isn't a film driven by character. It's a film driven by situational punchlines, by a neat and silly plot about a serial killer, and by an underlying philosophy of life which wallows in misanthropy. Whenever these needs conflict with the need to keep characters consistent or plausible, plot, punchline and people-hatred win and character consistency is discarded.

Fictions which diss a microworld can range from the inspired ("Nathan Barley") to the clunky (Altman's "Pret-a-Porter"), but their biggest weakness is -- paradox! -- the naivete of their cynicism. There's necessarily a certain datedness and ignorance to them. Even if the directors and writers of these "diss fictions" once went to art school, or were once in the fashion world, or were once hipsters (and even that isn't a given), they've since been "cured" of the delusions prevalent in these worlds, and are now able to satirize them from their new nest in the more populist film or television business. That means they're outsiders to the worlds they're satirizing, no longer able to enter the forcefield of fantasy which sustains these bubble worlds, unable to explain the particular appeal, the magic which makes people give their lives to something for the most part unremunerative. Their fingers are far from the pulse, so it's hardly surprising they so often portray the patient as dead.

And so, in "Art School Confidential" (ASC), we see the disillusionment without the "illusionment" -- the enchantment which lures people into these worlds in the first place. Max Minghella plays Jerome, a young man who "wants to be Picasso". And that sets the tone. Sure, Picasso's name is still on the lips of hedge fund managers, especially when a painting of his sells for $95 million. But Picasso means very little to the art students of 2006. We're just not living in that cultural era. We're also not living in the era in which art students "experiment" by recreating Yves Klein's actionist art from the 1960s, dipping their naked bodies in paint and hurling themselves against canvasses (a sight gag you can see in the trailer).

Wikipedia tells us that scriptwriter Daniel Clowes went to art school in the 1970s at Pratt in Brooklyn, which is presumably the model for the school we see in the film (but where's the process art? The conceptual art?). He "unsuccessfully attempted to find work in New York as an illustrator" after gaining his BFA, and then found success with comics, one of which (the one which provides the basis for this film) settled scores with the world of art which had, apparently, rejected him. Comics as a form are less "elitist", less mystificatory, less marginal, less enchanted, more narrative than art. As Clowes has demonstrated, the narrative and comedy elements in comics can lead you to Hollywood. There you can betray the high little world of art, using the power of the low big world of film. Hurrah! Scores settled, etc! Revenge is sweet!

And yet there's an oddly fusty atmosphere in this film. Zwigoff (and yes, I saw "Ghost World" too, and "Crumb") shares with David Lynch a certain 1950s fixation; with Lynch, even if you're ostensibly in the present, you're in a permanent 1940s, 1950s of the soul. Zwigoff formerly made a documentary about Robert Crumb, and seems to share Crumb's out-of-time fogey-ish style. I suspect that Clowes shares it too; his drawing style, for instance, is oddly retro. In this film we're far from the 21st century. The jokes at art's expense could almost come from Tony Hancock's 1960 film "The Rebel". One of the girls Jerome dates in ASC is a highly-wrought "beatnik girl". Not even a Goth, but a beatnik! In The Rebel (according to Screen Online's blurb) "there is a kind of lazy shorthand at work that conflates artists with Paris, existentialism, angry young men, beatniks and beat poets", but at least, in 1960, that "lazy shorthand" was only a couple of years out of date. Here it's four or five decades wide of the mark.

Now, sure, the film's title is a wink in the direction of "High School Confidential" (1958), so this may well be 80s-style retro pomo rather than simply being out of date. A salute to the art of the past, a repackaging of media cliches about media cliches. Yet it's odd how much of the style of the American subculture does have this retro pomo feel, this clinging to the mid-decades of the 20th century, and this implicit betrayal of the 21st century, contemporaneity or hipness. I picked up the same thing in "Lost in Translation", which satirizes the modernity of Toyko (and also hipsters), juxtaposing it against a peculiarly old-fashioned American "unlikely couple" who want to "break out of this place". You can also see it in the retro sets and atmosphere of "The Life Aquatic".

So why has the American alternative world become a sort of bile-fuelled fogey, hating on everything and everyone? Is it comforting to both reject the modern world, tarring everyone as an asshole, and evoke a long-vanished world of beatniks, berets and Picasso, a world in which you understood art well enough to laugh it out of the living room? Alas, the only thing 21st century about "Art School Confidential" may be that famous emotional tone colour picked up by American Environics: the "atomized, rage-filled outlook" summed up here by Jimmy, an alcoholic old failed artist and (possibly) murderer, and summed up in the film's recurring motto and leitmotif: "The entire human race should be wiped off the earth".

[identity profile] cutup.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Not having seen Art School Confidential yet, I can't critique it. I have read a lot of Clowes' work, however, and he certainly has more to offer than moronic cynicism. Based on my memory of "Ghost World", (the book and the movie, and the differences between the two), I'm guessing that Art School Confidential is ultimately Zwigoff's vision, not Clowes. My favorite Clowes work, "David Boring," has such a giddy sense of wonder to it that I don't think it's fair to lump Clowes generically in the "moronic cynicism" camp. Especially since the majority of his work has been in comics, not film.

[identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ultimately I'm blaming America, and Clowes only insofar as he's symptomatic of its misanthropy. I agree with this account (http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/confidential.html) of the film. From Canadians, interestingly enough!

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[identity profile] elleohelle.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Despite my rather disgusting experience in a painting class, I think I'll avoid that movie. The preview makes it look awful. Did you like Ghost World? The characters in that movie are a lot more fleshed out.

[identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I quite liked Ghost World. It doesn't seem to have left much of an impression, to be honest. I really liked Crumb, though.

[identity profile] antebellumcafe.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw the previews and I'm almost embarrased to say I want to see it. I loved "Ghost World" (movie).
The thing I noticed about "Art School Confidential" is that it is being marketed to both art geeks and the type of crowd that goes to see every other type of teen movie ot there ("American Pie", "Scary Movie"", etc).

[identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it has "art" in the title, but it's in no way an art movie. It is quite funny, though. I enjoyed some of the jokes.

disillusionment without the "illusionment"

[identity profile] seanthesean.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm not the biggest fan of clowes' work, mostly because he embodies the more pathetic aspects of generation x & he doesn't like barbarians. however, the whole bile regurgitating attitude very much reflects his generation & their attitudes. they took the baby boomers elitism & turned it into animosity towards the other. from faggots to farmers, generation x is always hating somebody. a great deal of this has to do with the "hard sell" mentality of america & especially of the sixties, where the line is that they solved everything. i had teachers in the 80s who believed that racism had been solved. there were boomer parents who said things like, "i thought we had gotten past this." so, it's a bit like you've bought "the world's greatest car" & it falls apart in two days, but everyone is still telling you it's the world's greatest car. anyhow, disillusionment without the "illusionment" is a great idea. i have to suffer through cynical six year olds on occassion, & i just have to throttle them, "what do you have to be cynical about!?" adults can be cynical, sure, but six years olds, no. finally, in that canadian review, i found this to be interesting... "The movie’s message is very pre-Enlightenment". I think only non-Americans or isolated American liberals can even begin to think in this way.

[identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
We should be careful to guard against the modernist, mechanicist tendency to pit "retro" against" "new". "Relevance" is a feather that linear-minded people wield like a cudgel; they often use it to bludgeon things they deem unfashionable, or simply don't like. I'd prefer living in a more fluid frame of mind.

Amemba this? (http://www.frieze.com/feature_single.asp?f=1058)

[identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
(I attended a liberal arts college, so I've nothing invested in the movie--other than recognizing the usual array of hang-ups and prejudices I see in art school grads/casualties, poor things. Takes them years to unlearn that pap.)

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[identity profile] glassplastic.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I do find it hard to get into any kind of art form that makes fun of smaller subcultures, not matter how ripe they may be for humor. I felt the same way about the goth kids episode of South Park. It was funny, but I couldn't help but think, "Well, what's the point? Goth kids aren't going to change. And everyone else already things they're stupid." On the other hand, The Hipster Handbook was pretty funny and spot on (though my local weeklies rip off article hating on hipsters was not).

On the other hand, as a former art school student, I know that no one comes out of an art school without a lot of resentment toward it. I think it's part of the set up. Nothing is worse than finding out that a good teacher isn't really that talented, and that the talented teachers won't be there long because they end up doing thier art somewhere else, or that your really paid all the money to make one or two connections. Plus, you're either with students who are talentless but make good grades because they turn things in on time, or simply that one isn't allowed to pursue certain avenues because the head of a department isn't into it anymore. Then, of course, there's the terrible feeling right after graduation when you realize that as frustrating as it was, paying someone to care about your art for four years is much better than seeing that no gives a shit about your art. I'm just saying, despite any good or bad qualities of the film or it's datedness, it's a strange situation to be in, filled with many contradictions. of course, though, i'm glad i went.

And it just gets worse when you realize none of your favorite artists, writers, or film-makers went to art school, let alone any college.

Plus, if anyone else is like me, they apply to art school for the promise of the arty lifestyle, which hopefully you grow out of. Though I guess that can be said about any kind college.

[identity profile] dzima.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
And it just gets worse when you realize none of your favorite artists, writers, or film-makers went to art school, let alone any college.

I share the same feeling but I'm not sure if things work this way anymore. I ask you who are the "true artists" in any industry these days. After all, we live in a world of "grad students" (as Americans say) and skilled migrants...

another random thought on a movie you mentioned . . .

[identity profile] glassplastic.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
An odd thing I got out of Lost In Translation was the feeling it was spoofing American Culture. Every shot of the city filled with all kinds of technology and marketing and everything being over the top and colorful remined me, well, of New York, and our own techno-culture.

Re: another random thought on a movie you mentioned . . .

[identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It's tempting to say that Tokyo itself is what spoofs America. But I don't think that's true. Tokyo spoofs Paris a lot, from the Tokyo tower to its tong-and-surgical-glove bakeries. But even "spoof" isn't right. Tokyo is a town that's too positive, too good-hearted and sincere, to parody anything. There's a lot of sci-fi fantasy in Tokyo, but it's not a spoof of sci-fi.

[identity profile] tarandfeathrhim.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently you are not alone in your judgement:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/art_school_confidential/

Sounds like a pretty lazy movie.

[identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Here are the Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/artschoolconfidential?q=art%20school%20confidential) scores. Hoberman in the Voice liked it.

[identity profile] cityramica.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
equally mediocre, though perhaps more acceptably so given its niche market, is the alt-porn sensation, "Art School Sluts". i cannot give it a glowing recommendation for writing or acting, but i can tell you that yours truly is an extra in a classroom scene. wow!

[identity profile] maybeimdead.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I rather enjoyed the movie. Perhaps because I'm not an artist I'm unaffected by the negative portrayals, as opposed to say...hmmm ... portrayals of Asian-American men in Hollywood movies. Are you engaging in the identity politics on behalf of artists?? How American.

[identity profile] honeychurch.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw the film on Friday, and while it's lacking in some ways - by no means stellar - I did enjoy it. I want to address (nitpick?) one point you make, because I think you may be glossing unfairly.

You write: Max Minghella plays Jerome, a young man who "wants to be Picasso". And that sets the tone. Sure, Picasso's name is still on the lips of hedge fund managers, especially when a painting of his sells for $95 million. But Picasso means very little to the art students of 2006.

The film agrees. Jerome ends up feeling embarassed for his adoration of the now "old-fashioned" Picasso. While there could have been a lot more depth to the treatment, there is some consideration of the conflict that exists between wanting to be a professional artist (able to support oneself through one's art) and not wanting to be a sellout - and whether becoming successful and leaving your roots behind you automatically makes you a sellout (is financial success a betrayal of the "high little world of art"?).

I'll agree that the film feels a little dated in parts - I feel like a lot of the alternative film world is still trying to catch up to the 21st century. The late nineties were its heyday, and there's a sense of difficulty in knowing where to go from there. I know I feel like every new indie film is something I've seen before. It seems less as though it's "some bile-fueled fogey", and more like an aging Gen X-er who can't bear to give up his poster of Janeane Garafalo. Further, in trying to process what's been going on in the US as far as the social and cultural are concerned, it becomes very difficult to avoid resorting to boring platitudes of one form or another, and perhaps this older brand of cynicism seems easier.

[identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's worth pointing out that the very short comic strip this movie is based on (I haven't seen it yet either) dates from the early '90s.

[identity profile] iamcoreyd.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Watch, the same people that loved I Heart Huckabees are going to be raving about this movie. Gag.

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Wha?

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[identity profile] trufflesniffer.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I agree about Lost in Translation fitting within this schema. Though the film undoubtedly posited something 'old' (the intimacy and fragility of individual human relationships) with something 'new' (the buzzing sprawling sleepless faceless impersonal enormity of the (post)modern conurbation, which appear to be following an inexorable logic of endless consumption and growth), I don't think either of these elements fit exactly within a particular decade or epoch.

My feeling was that Lost in Translation used Tokyo as device for characterising that which appeared distant and alien about Modernity in general - and thus it became a cartoonish distillation of something Americans don't like about themselves, and the world they've been at the forefront of creating, rather than a particularly 'anti-Tokyo' satire.

Personally speaking, I picked up strong tones of juxtaposition, malaise, and melancholy from the film, with a hint of ill-focussed nostalgia, but not really any cynicism or bile. (protective or otherwise)

[identity profile] henryperri.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're giving poor Sophia far too much credit. It's a numb love story with pretty backgrounds. I enjoyed it for what it was.

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[identity profile] fishwithissues.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
it's interesting to me that everybody is comparing this movie to Crumb and Ghost World, while not mentioning Bad Santa, the very funny, very low comedy that Zwigoff made between his two trendier art fictions. (And I like Ghost World a lot).
It sortof makes sense to not mention Bad Santa since it isn't comics- or hipster-related, but the utter nihilism that that film exudes, the way it wallows in the lazy avarice of American consumer culture seems pretty important to understanding where Zwigoff is coming from. One of the reasons that movie works so well is it doesn't take aim at a moving target like the contemporary art world. It also has a protagonist closer to the filmmaker's age. Steve Buscemi and Crumb served that purpose in the other two films. Sounds like in this new one, there's not so much talkin' bout Zwigg's generation. Interestingly, NY times says John Malkovitch is the only really good thing going for ASC.

Also, Ghost World's main object of satire was the "get a job, get an apartment, get moving" mentality. Its depiction of high school art classes was also totally on the mark, but the movie still insists in a none-too-didactic manner, that makin' stuff is mega important to some people. And that's why for all its existential bleating, it's still an uplifting movie. This new one... sounds like not so much.

(Anonymous) 2006-05-09 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the new site design. Will copy someday.

[identity profile] porandojin.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
it looks so ozu

[identity profile] tundraboy.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I generally enjoy Zwigoff's work but I'm not sure if I'll see this one after reading your review. I too am tired of films and pop culture taking the easy road of mockery, when the harder thing to be is sincere, to actually engage in another culture. Your Lost in Translation review is spot-on for me: I too felt betrayed by it. I think those of who have spent any amount of time in Japan can see how disingenuous the film is, whereas my strictly American friends can't understand why I'm not in love with the movie like they are. "Aren't the Japanese people so funny and strange? Haha!" Haha indeed.

[identity profile] triestine.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I find comics to be marginal *within* art, which is a pity. Outside of art, if the two must be separated, they're also more marginal in that they marginalise those who express interest in them.

[identity profile] cheapsurrealist.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
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Enough with the movies about artists. I'm working on a treatment for a film about the brave sewer workers of NY. Firefighters and cops are already passe.

Working title -"Lust for Shit"

But I'm open to suggestions. Anyone know any Art Carney look alikes?

[identity profile] kaipfeiffer.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
try "shitfun" by whitehouse as music for the end titles - rather not for the opening titles, if you want some people to stay.
maybe old scatologist william bennett would even want to act "method style" in that movie ...

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[identity profile] nina-blomquist.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's "Leitmotif," not "lietmotif." Even better would be "Leitmotiv."

[identity profile] dzima.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
You forgot to mention The Big Lebowski, Beverly Hills Cop and New York Stories as other Hollywood films with inbred art world satire.

Anyway, this film you reviewed sounds like a very silly divertissement but there's a grain of truth to all those jokes: in my experience (and observing other people's), if you're passionate about art you're going to get rejected, no matter how hard you try to get in. It seems that a "rich person's detached objectivity" is an entry requirement.

I understand that Duchamp was quite detached and objective in his art and though I like him as much as everyone else there should be also room for an artist with a diametrically different personality like Beuys. Or maybe not in the academy...

[identity profile] desant012.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yet, nobody ever remembers or cares about the scenester, the trend-follower, or the bored rich kid. History sorts these people out pretty well - at least, in legitimate avenues of expression. The art and literary worlds are about as incestuous and old-fashioned as society gets, next to a Mormon compound in Utah.

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(Anonymous) 2006-05-10 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I can't believe you have spent this much effot dissecting such a mediocre movie

[identity profile] notkoan.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
haven't seen art school confidential, and it never sounded particularly interesting to me.

frankly, i disliked ghost world (the movie) especially when compared to ghost world (the comic book). in both the comic book and the movie, we're supposed to like the main character, despite her flaws. but in the movie, what seems like an inability to confirm and intense scepticism in enid is blown up into an outright callousness and cruelty towards everyone else around her. once i looked past her quirky charms and intelligence, all i see of her is an unconscious, but nevertheless intense core of selfishness and cruelty. i really think nabokov hit it on the nail when he says that art is "beauty with pity". i really can't enjoy art whose enjoyment is predicated on utter contempt for its characters. it's just far too bleak for my tastes. but i'm not so convinced that films like art school confidential, whose appeal depends on mockery of its characters, is indicative of american alternative culture in general. i would say that movie only appeals to the shallowest layer of american hipsterdom.

[identity profile] dzima.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
"Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue" said richman La Rochefoucauld.

It's a shame that Sofia Coppola can't come up with a saying such as this one!

[identity profile] huffa.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
One artist who does very effectively diss the micro-artworld is Guy Richard Smit. His fake stand-up routines, done as the hyperbolically arrogant superstar artist Jonathan Grossmalerman (translation from German roughly: Big Painting Guy), are not only incredibly funny, but have a sense of real kinship with the world they are making fun of. What makes his material work is exaclty that intimacy that you argue makes many of these satires fail. Smit is an artist, he is producing the work for that art world he is making fun of. One of my professors pointed out that his work actually seems to form a community around it of people who share Smit's disgust and amusement with the art world. This is diametrically opposed to the kind of microworld satire, that (I haven't seen it but...) you suggest Art School Confidential constitutes - where the viewer revels in being exterior to and better than the world they are deriding.

[identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
...Except that movies like Art School Confidential and Lost In Translation become points of identification for people who otherwise might never develop friendships.

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movies, school, and style...

[identity profile] meganfinley.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
It would be so easy it seems to make a real art-insider comedy film about art school. Concept, fluxus, and performance art are funny naturally. Some presentations I've witnessed have taught me how to hide bursts of laughter.Some things I've read as an art history student have brought fits and tears in their descriptions of events. That's why it's my major, I am really happythese people have a desire to put it all on the line and that they manage to do it, despite other's narrow preconceptions. Behind my laughter is a deep seated respect and understanding.

Always, there is a great ambition which subsides with the realization that one must just settle and turn it in already. I loath this compromise, but it is a necessar lesson in mediocrity for survival.
Lost In Translation, I liked very much- especially the out-takes. One of the films I'd love to own. I like that they did it without a Japanese film making permit, supposedly. I felt the relationship was somewhat forced but whatever, it's the visuals that blew me away- the music, atmosphere, and I feel there are just not enough films that explore the immersion into a new culture anyway.

If you want to try a real retro film the other by Sophia Coppola is Virgin Suicides. Not only do I love Euginides' novels- but this movie has become my favorite. I love to introduce it to people and watch afterward as they become totally weirded and thoughtful. I love it because I feel like the girls in it are perfectly portrayed for their ages, maybe other women feel this way, but I feel that at some point I've been every one of those girls. In some private way I still am.
Ghost World: Steve Bushimi is charming as always, the girls seemed unnecessarily cruel. I had no sympathy for them and the art outrage at the gallery was contrived. On a positive note: I recognize the title.

Crumb: Yes, quite good. Surprising in what it was allowed to portray, for example his stalker brother. I left with the distinct impression that Crumb's daughter makes David Lynch's daughter's life seem wholesome by comparison. It gave the audience what it paid for. When I was a teen in SF, CA I wanted to be a feminist R. Crumb and drew accordingly. That part is still lurking somewhere...waiting to be un-PC.

I don't know if it is really well done but Comic Book Confidential must get the honorary mention, especially for the interview with Zippy the Pinhead's creator.

Retro USA: There's something conforting about the 70's for Americans, and I think many people equate the political landscape with that time: oil and fuel shortage, a war against vigilantes, a confused batch of protestors who don't draw strength from numbers. We look with nostalgia on the retro of 70's as a time where family, friends, and intimate relationships took precedence over politics- an ideal to strive for.
The 80's had resurgence of the 50's (LaBamaba), the 90's were according to Wavy Gravy the 60's turned on it's head, of course next comes the 70's.
As for styles to come and their late appearance... I feel postmodernism is now a dirty word because there is a feeling of betrayl in its premature climax that wasn't felt. The government arguments about sampling and the limits for musical experimentation, the corporatizing of radio took a great toll... What matters in starting a couter-culture movement in the US is music, but the larger society is still fragmented back there with Tipper Gore's censorship outcry. We just don't have the cozy relationship between designers and corporations that Japan apparently does.
When will something big come? Maybe soon. We all hope so, but it's a big bite to take for anyone. Who has the education, the mind, the desire? It is so very, very big in America and the world.

I applaud you, whoever you are, for reading thus far. Now- what 180 degree turn will momus take tomorrow? Something light I'll reason.
nighty night, Megan

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[identity profile] kementari2.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
I find it interesting that you see the idea of the 70s in the US as comforting for Americans. Granted, I didn't live through them, but to me the 70s are permeated with, above all, an estrangement from nature. Vinyl and polyester; an era of dirt without justification between the late 60s hippies and the 80s punks; and environmental crises like Love Canal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal) - these are the things that dominate my impressions of the time.

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