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The relationship between beauty and change.
We discussed this yesterday.

The relationship between beauty and the beast.
"Returning home through the woods, Beauty's father leaves the path in search of a rose to give to his daughter and unwittingly enters the Beast's magical chateau. The next morning, he meets the fearsome Beast, who will only let him leave on condition that he sends one of his daughters to the chateau. The two ugly sisters refuse the proposition, whereas the virtuous, obedient Beauty consents. The Beast tries to hide his ugliness from her, but nevertheless she is able to discern his underlying goodness beneath the fearsome demeanour."

The relationship between beauty and death.
Classicism and Atrocity.

The relationship between beauty and sex.
Beauty makes me want to fuck.

The relationship between beauty and ethics.
Only what is ethically good can be beautiful?

The relationship between beauty and snobbism.
Here comes everybody! The beauty we regarded in solitary contemplation through our lorgnette must be abandoned.

The relationship between beauty and habit.
Use this cream daily. Beauty is a habit.

Google search on "beauty is": Results 1 - 10 of about 1,100,000 for "beauty is". (0.15 seconds)

New Scientist Breaking News - Beauty is in the nose of the beholder
Beauty is Shape - Fashion History of Body Shaping
Boxes and Arrows: Beauty is Only Screen Deep
CBS News Contest Proves Beauty Is Ageless (CBS) Beauty is not an age, but an attitude.
Eli Siegel's Is Beauty the Making One of Opposites?' What is in common in every instance of beauty? -- beauty in art, nature, mind?
Beauty is in the eye of the blogger | Beauty is in the eye of the ...
BM Gallery-Beauty is skin deep; Explore the fascinating details on the surfaces of sea stars and other echinoderms.
Beauty Is But A Painted Hell Beauty is but a painted hell; Aye me, Aye me, Shee wounds them that admire it, Shee kils them that desire it. Give her pride but fuell, ...

And, speaking of painted hells...
Ten Visual Artists I Have Been Thinking About.

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Date: 2005-08-07 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anti-peace-riot.livejournal.com
I find myself never growing tired of your posts. The past several posts you have made have been very interesting to say the least! The relationships of beauty was well put.

I hate asking this question, but I'm afraid that I know no one in Berlin and have only been able to find vacation sites, but is there a good web site you know of that can help me find an apartment for rent in Berlin? Yours seems like quite the catch and I'm wondering if there are any more good deals available in that wonderful city.

Take care!

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Date: 2005-08-07 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
You could try ImmobilienScout (http://www.immobilienscout24.de/find.national.criteriasInterval/citySelectionDialog.go;jsessionid=EB13B846E992E01E500998F9A7E16DCA.worker1?iac=0&style=is24&is24EC=IS24&cityControl=Berlin&event%3AdoSubmit=Weiter) or mopo-immonet (http://mopo-immonet.berlin1.de/search.do;jsessionid=a2U6WuO9nX6b?objecttype=1&marketingtype=2&federalstate=11).

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Date: 2005-08-08 12:32 am (UTC)

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Date: 2005-08-07 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slime-slime-sly.livejournal.com

I might have a free room from september on, for like 150E everything included in prenzlauer berg. I'd love to have another momus fan in the house too.
try www.easy-wg.de too

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Date: 2005-08-08 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anti-peace-riot.livejournal.com
Thank you VERY much. That offer is making me want to purchase a plane ticket to Berlin right now, but I'm afraid I must decine. I need to finish my studies first. I just wanted to gather some information now so I know where to look.

Once again, thanks!

Beauty and Terror

Date: 2005-08-07 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qscrisp.livejournal.com
I'm interested to find some of your ideas on beauty uncharacteristically Gothic (not actually a bad thing from my point of view).

Particularly the quote from Rilke - and the context in which you used it - reminds me of some of the ideas put forward in Edmund Burke's Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful, which was a very important influence in the forming of the Gothic aesthetic in (I believe) the works of Walpole, Radcliffe and so on.

To quote:

"Whatever is fitted in any sort to excite the ideas of pain, that is to say, whatever is in any sort terrible... is a source of the sublime".

Re: Beauty and Terror

Date: 2005-08-07 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
I think I get my "Gothic" from the Sade-Bataille line. In other words, it's French Gothic!

Re: Beauty and Terror

Date: 2005-08-07 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qscrisp.livejournal.com
I suppose Beauty and the Beast could also be described as French Gothic.

cashmoney

Date: 2005-08-07 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
150 euros a month? berlin is sickeningly, breathtakingly cheap.

Re: cashmoney

Date: 2005-08-07 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It really is. I'm surprised everybody in the entire world hasn't moved here!

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Date: 2005-08-07 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cerulicante.livejournal.com
100000000000 vaginas on the Internet and you have to pick the one with the hideous hair on it.


Gack.


Beauty != sexual attractiveness.

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Date: 2005-08-07 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohnefuehlen.livejournal.com
Personally, I think it's a rather inviting one. Nothing wrong with a bit of hair.

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Date: 2005-08-08 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
Hm--and I thought there was a bug with a cleft palette on my screen.

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Date: 2005-08-08 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
Oh wait--that's my icon. Nevermind.

"Only what is ethically good can be beautiful?"

Date: 2005-08-07 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dumbness.livejournal.com
No, and that's why we so often see people with "weird" fetishes, "unfitted". There is beauty above any kind of culture, the one you create in your mind since the day you are born till the day you die, above all the "right" or "wrong" things, above all the "good" or "bad" examples given by the society you live in. That's why each one of us see beauty in different things, we all had different experiences with different stimulations/influences. We watch that in art... we often see beautiful things made of awful and wrong feelings.
From: [identity profile] butterflyrobert.livejournal.com
Yes, this is some "sticky territory" encountered over the past two days. Both a tsunami and a nuclear explosion are gorgeous to look at (on film or somesuch), but I'd never want to see either in person. And the "uneasy feeling" both arouse tend to move some "viewers" away from "beauty" and into "shuddering awe and terror".

What I find fascinating about the moral implications is that we all draw a line somewhere. I can find a tsunami beautiful, despite its aftermath and can almost appreciate the beauty of a mushroom cloud (though I admit to shuddering at the thought of ever having to see one in real life). Momus has said on one occasion that he thinks that mushroom clouds look pretty (possibly paraphrasing, because I am not going to bother myself to scour old posts to find the exact word), and, on another occasion that he doesn't find them beautiful (yes, the two words have slightly different meanings, so both can be true). He has also said that he doesn't find a tsunami beautiful because of it's devastation, though his opinion of it is likely to change with a does of neutral perspective and separation of perspective from event and aftermath.

This "sticky territory" is fascinating.

googlism.com

Date: 2005-08-07 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emobus.livejournal.com

beauty is but a painted hell
beauty is skin deep; echinoderm surface detail
beauty is life
beauty is revolution
beauty is male drug
beauty is soft
beauty is the real beauty
beauty is the premier online resource for hard to find
beauty is more than mere numbers
beauty is in the details
beauty is commotion
beauty is not
beauty is in the blending
beauty is better beauty is better beauty is better beauty is
beauty is revealed
beauty is in the eye of the storm despite threats of a boycott
beauty is your resource for all the highest quality
beauty is breaking ground to the girl in the equivalent of a kansas cornfield retro progressive
beauty is abundant in a land flowing with snowmelt
beauty is the radiance of being
beauty is pain

A Story

Date: 2005-08-08 12:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Thought this might be interesting in tearms(sic) of beauty in odd places-Jed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/4748063.stm

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Date: 2005-08-08 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicepimmelkarl.livejournal.com
core, that beaver needs a shave.