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Do you ever have dreams where, despite being an adult and well-established in life, you're back at school, sitting at a little desk wearing a cap and shorts, forced to raise your hand to ask to go to the toilet? Well, I seem to be living one of those dreams. There's nothing wrong with my relationship with the student director or cast of 'Attempts On Her Life', but I've started crossing swords with the school staff, getting all antsy, all passive aggressive, all 'Don't you know who I am?' To explain why, I have to tell you a few things about me, my strengths and weaknesses.

I'm a pretty strong, motivated, self-directing sort of person. I work quickly and effectively. I'm good in a crisis, staying calm and quickly regaining control. I'm never depressed, helpless or lost. On the negative side, I get bored very quickly. I can also seem aloof and arrogant. I don't have a good relationship with authority. I dislike being told what to do, and would rather work out my own way of doing things than learn well-established routines. I hate learning fixed parts by rote -- I remember the bassist on the Kreidler tour back in 2000 getting very frustrated with me because I just wouldn't learn the structure of the song we were performing together, 'Mnemorex'. I preferred to change it every night. Which was fun for me, but a bit of a challenge to the rest of the band. I used to annoy my music teachers at school for the same reasons. Instead of learning pieces, I'd rabbit ahead with improvisations. My licks might have been fantastic, but they presented a managerial challenge to the teacher, so instead of an admiring 'Wow!' they tended to provoke an irritable 'Whoa!'

I even used to improvise in the school orchestra! I never learned to read music, so I'd copy the bow positions of the other violinists, but be playing something completely different, something I thought sounded good. I'm amazed that I got away with it for so long; mine certainly wasn't a hippy, 'anything goes' kind of school. Later, at university, I persuaded my tutors to let me write essays about stuff that wasn't on the curriculum. Surprisingly, they agreed, and when I took the standardised exams at the end of the course I vindicated their permissive attitude by getting a first. If I keep interested, I keep motivated, and if I keep motivated, I do my best work. But you don't want to be my tutor or my advisor, really. How can you mark an essay on Rilke when he's not on the English course and you haven't read him yourself?



I haven't really changed much. The deal I've struck with the director of 'Attempts On Her Life' is that I'm improvising during her production. Kaori and I, the musicians (Kaori hasn't arrived yet), will be listening to the cast, listening to each other, and the cast will be listening to us. We'll be creating music in real time. It'll be different every night. Now, obviously there's a contradiction between this and the idea of endless, arduous rehearsals, which would tend to solidify repeatable performances and fix optimal 'moves' into position over time. So it's just as well the rehearsals are turning out not to be like that at all: rather than converging towards the 'one right answer', they seem to be diverging endlessly. Yesterday, for instance, a voice teacher from the college came in, a rather intense woman called Christina. She explained that she wanted to 'suspend the semantics' of the play, then spent several hours taking the actors through some basic physical exercise focused on the voice and the body. First she got the four performers to massage each other, and make primitive grunting sounds in appreciation. Then there were piano-led arpeggio vocalisations. Then everybody had to describe a scene on a subway train in their own language, and the others would have to respond in imitations of that language. Then there were some collective shouting exercises -- it just seemed to get louder and louder -- then each actor was asked to speak about the themes of the play. I'd been told I would be needed during these sessions, but as the hours ground by I found that this wasn't the case at all. Sitting there like a cabbage or a jilted bride, I began to get very bored, to feel that the expressivity of the actors was coming at the expense of my inexpressivity. Well, I suppose that's the risk inherent in all performance. But when the audience is having fun nobody notices the inequalities -- 'some in darkness, some in light', as Brecht put it.

By lunchtime my passive aggression was hanging like a little black lightning cloud over my head. Christina came over to explain what she was doing, and I found myself leveling charges against her techniques. At first I'd liked what she was doing -- I could relate it to Wilhelm Reich, to the idea of helping the actors overcome their 'character armour' and become better embodied. I could even relate it to my very embodied summer, bathing in Japan. But then, I explained, I began to wonder if what was happening wasn't just the replacement of shyness, tension and ambivalence with confidence, disinhibition and certainty. It seemed to be a sort of EST course for the actors, a kind of steroid therapy to build up their charisma and self-regard. Well, they already had quite enough! It reminded me of how privately-educated DramSoc students at my university had used acting as a way to increase their already-high levels of public confidence. Thank God for authors, for all their tension and doubt and fear and objectivity, because without them there would just be this actor therapy happening on theatre stages, and a lot of happy actors and unhappy, bored audiences. Theatre is not staged for the psychological benefit of the performers!

I told Christina that I didn't think it was a good idea to suspend semantics in this case. Crimp is British, and his play is about something I, as a British person, understand rather well: the conflict between a certain kind of pep-talking hype speech (there are parodies of car commercials, gushing publishers and homilies to family life) and much more grim realities (war, terrorism, suicide). British people -- and especially the characters in Crimp's play -- are uptight and conflicted, and it seemed to me more useful that the actors should find that in their performances than some kind of noisy and banal 'confidence'. By the time I started asking Christina what school she was from ('What school? I'm from the Hochschule. Oh, you mean what tradition? Stanislavsky...') I could see that my intense boredom and passive aggression had done its work. I'd made an enemy. I'd questioned the authority of a teacher and questioned her ideology. Even seeing her teaching as ideology, and making her name its tradition, had been an aggressive act on my part, like picking for the loose strand of wool that can begin an unravelling.

My punishment was being marginalised for several more hours in the afternoon. Unable to bear being treated like some kind of musical chauffeur, parked by the mixing desk, I went outside to check my e mail. And of course that was the moment they needed me. Director Gergana, ultra-sympathische, kept trying to include me in the games. 'Do you want to sing?' asked Christina, almost threateningly. 'Do you want to join the actors and sing?' Of course I didn't want to do that. In my bristling bad mood, being told to pretend I was a tree or make bird sounds would have seen me quitting the production on the spot. Finally I was asked to play music for an hour or so, produced some scarily avant screechy drones -- no more nor less than my bile made audible -- and was allowed to go home. I've been given the next two days off. School holidays have come early.

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Date: 2004-10-06 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loveskull.livejournal.com
Suggestion : creatively use all this spare time you get while they place you in a corner (like a naughty school child) by building the worlds most realistic 3/4 size card board cutout in the image of one's self.
Then leave.
I bet they wouldn't even notice the height difference.
(You could even possibly rig it up to move about a little and hire it out at funerals and parties).

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-06 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isola.livejournal.com
Strange enough reading your post made me think back in Northwestern Ontario in the mid 80's. A travelling acting group came for a visit and made a huge impression on this small town girl[even had me act like a tree!]. And even more strange, thinking back the male reminds me so much of you.. messy blond hair wearing his sweater inside out. hrmmm??:)

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Date: 2004-10-06 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
What I think I'll do if this situation comes up again is slip on headphones and start going through the 14 hours of Pimsleur's 'Speak and Understand Essential Japanese' mp3s I have on my hard drive.

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Date: 2004-10-06 06:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Isn't there some interesting disconnect between your very individualist approach to life and work on the one hand, and your enthusiasm for the intensely socialised structures of Japanese society? Do you idealise something that, by temperament you can't really be a part of? I remember a post a while back where you were talking enthusiastically about the totally ritualised behaviour of Japanese traindrivers, specifically pointing out that this was the opposite of Western notions of expressing yourself, and all I could think was that this was about the most un-Momus model really.

H.

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Date: 2004-10-06 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
You raise some good questions, H.

Isn't there some interesting disconnect between your very individualist approach to life and work on the one hand, and your enthusiasm for the intensely socialised structures of Japanese society?

There are lots of answers to this. Yes, there is some, as you kindly put it, 'interesting disconnect' here. (Some ambiguity haters would call it 'hypocrisy'.) On the one hand I could say that the pain of the situation I describe in this entry was caused by exclusion -- I really wanted to be swallowed up into the hivemind of the actors, but couldn't be because I'm not an actor, just as, when I'm in Japan, there's a certain poignant melancholy in the fact that, although I love the harmony I see there, I can't really be part of it because I'm not Japanese.

A slightly different answer is that I'm a man whose whole life is a weekend, who consequently hates weekends. In other words, I like being lazy and free when other people are hard at work. I like the results of conformity, but don't want to be subjected to it myself. I want the best of both worlds: the experience of living free and unstructured in a world that's hard at work and tightly structured. In this sense I'm very, very spoiled. I'm improvising over a tight backing band and hoping to garner all the applause.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-06 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caro7.livejournal.com
This is wonderful. I've just started working in the new library serving a large amount of drama students at Central St Martins, who have no respect for it whatsoever and screech and preen around it with no respect for anyone else trying to quietly study. I feel like printing this out in a large font and pinning it on the issue desk!

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Date: 2004-10-06 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] class-worrier.livejournal.com
I think all people feel this 'hypocrisy' to some degree.
Belonging and being individualistic both produce similar warm feelings.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-06 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
They'd never have the attention span to read it (unless they got to act it out later).

Maybe you could rig up two illuminated signs instead, one saying 'Quiet please!' and the other 'Applause!' If the actors won't shut up, just get everybody to clap at their performances, throw flowers and coins, and leave (a third sign: 'Exit').

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-06 08:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Why don't you do something more useful with your time? This play sounds like a load of "ham-shank". You've said that you like to be lazy and free, but is this really a price worth paying?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-06 08:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
<3

-innenselber

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Date: 2004-10-06 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It's actually an excellent play, if rather on the dark side. And I've never worked in theatre before. It's certainly something I should try in an empty three month stretch (my album is finished, and my residency as a sound artist at a Japanese university early next year not yet confirmed).

Earlier this year I was put in touch by a mutual friend with a rather high-powered British theatre director, currently working in LA. We had a long phone conversation. He was making encouraging noises about putting on a production I was involved in. He suggested I make contacts in the Berlin theatre world. When the Hochschule (and it's Berlin's best theatre school) approached me it seemed like the ideal oppurtunity to do just that. Or at least dip a toe in the water.

(I have to say I'm not as lazy as I pretend to be.)
From: [identity profile] niemandsrose.livejournal.com

Momus, my love, some points. All bearing in mind that Christina-the-voice-teacher may be an idiot; without having seen/heard her work I won’t offer my professional opinion.

--You’re not a student. They are. Be patient with the kids, eh?

--It may be the case that she has to justify her salary by teaching students, not you, and she may come in for criticism if she doesn’t spend 100% of her tuition-paid time teaching the kids who pay said tuition money. Be patient with the institution, eh?

--We don’t teach vocal strength/flexibility/readiness in order to convey unto the actors a sense of overweening confidence and superiority; we do it so that they can be heard and understood, even from the back row of the venue (if we’re so lucky). Did it seem to you that she was only teaching strength?, and neglecting to teach flexibility and readiness as physical tools also, the better to express contradictions?

--German teaching methods obviously don’t seem to suit you any better than the ones you got as a child. What, do you think, is the outright value of pedagogy?


Nick, I’m sorry you had a shitty rehearsal where you were called and then not used, but that happens all the time in theatre.


[For the record, by the way, Stanislavsky doesn’t really do it for me either. And I don’t like actors very much, but Ilove students, oddly enough. Disclaimer disclaimer.]
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm with you on most of those points.

--You’re not a student. They are. Be patient with the kids, eh?

I'm realising that. I thought this was a production, but now I realise it's part of a course. I actually told Christina, when she asked if I wanted to sing, 'I feel guilty for joining in with the exercises when I'm not paying the college fees'. (In fact what I really wanted to say was 'Singing is my job, it'll cost you 800 euros for an hour!')

--We don’t teach vocal strength/flexibility/readiness in order to convey unto the actors a sense of overweening confidence and superiority; we do it so that they can be heard and understood, even from the back row of the venue (if we’re so lucky). Did it seem to you that she was only teaching strength?, and neglecting to teach flexibility and readiness as physical tools also, the better to express contradictions?

I was being a bit Method on this point. I suggested that the actors needed to find tension for their roles, whereas C's exercises were all about loosening up. She also justified her exercises as relevant by saying she wanted the actors to listen to foreign languages (there are many different languages in the play, used for texture and to evoke the processes of globalism). I mean, she totally didn't need to justify her work to me, and it wasn't her job to keep me interested or entertained. But I felt like I didn't need to be there, and I told the director that, and as a result, today and tomorrow I'm not there. I'll be there when I'm needed. So we're all happier, and my bad mood got the message across.

--German teaching methods obviously don’t seem to suit you any better than the ones you got as a child. What, do you think, is the outright value of pedagogy?

I don't have issues with pedagogy, but I do have issues with therapy culture. There seems to be too much asking this question 'How do you feel about what you just did?' My entry on bunraku (http://www.livejournal.com/users/imomus/2004/08/25/) and my love of Brecht show where I'm coming from on this. Although I love my sister dearly, one difference in our personal cultures is that she's rather earnestly into therapy, into thrashing things out (with someone paid to listen) and analysing her feelings about them, and I'm not.

AT LEAST I WASN'T UNTIL TODAY, AND THIS LIVEJOURNAL ENTRY... which reads more like your stereotypical LJ entry than anything I've ever written. Oh no, it's a slippery slope now to group hugs and daily confessionals from the nether regions of my emotional life! What would Brecht say?
From: (Anonymous)
Nick, have you ever looked into sex addiction/codependency? It's easy to dismiss from the name by people who aren't familiar with it, doubly so by therapy unenthusiasts with snappy comebacks (like myself). But what you're describing is (from my extremely unprofessional viewpoint) pretty symptomatic of an addictive/codependent personality, most markedly the urge for control over a situation that supercedes an urge for harmony. The Alcoholics Anonymous term is 'creating chaos,' the use of passive-aggressivity and enemy-making to regain 'control' (or to strip it from everyone else) over a powerless situation.

Like any addiction based therapy concept, it's difficult to find information about sexual codependency that doesn't require you to turn your life over to Jesus, or that isn't a blatant attempt to sell books, but doing some research on the topic helped me understand why I had fallen out of love with each of my girlfriends once they liked me, been addicted to porn for years, and had ended up in a psych ward at one point after overdosing on my antidepressants for seemingly no reason. And I'm not fond of therapy either, specifically therapists; the last one I went to suggested I take up country line-dancing. But sexual codependency was the first Grand Unified Theory that sucessfully described my life and behavior.

Otherwise, perhaps making and wearing a WWBS? beaded bracelet would help things.

Channing
From: (Anonymous)
I am enjoying this immensely. Like Von Trier's "The Five Obstructions"--proof that reality TV is essentially an arty concept.

I'm with you, Mr. Currie--I do all my best work alone, and can get somewhat discombobulated in group play situations. However, this seems like an antidote to the Keigo Oyamada syndrome you described a while back, the hermetic stasis of the thematic artist. The drama you are describing sounds potentially much more interesting than the play will be. Keep us posted.

B.
From: [identity profile] niemandsrose.livejournal.com
Oh heavens yes. I got into theatre for the rehearsals, not for the shows. So much more...process-over-product kind of fun!

And you know, I never wanted to be an actor. I never was possessed by the notion that I was necessarily the most interesting thing in the room. Apart from the fact that I’m much more aural than visual by nature, the things that really interest me are usually interstitial things, things that take place between one person and another, or between one event and another: processes, tempo, and tension.

Communication, calling out across spaces. I always say that at least half of what I teach is how to listen.
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
what you're describing is (from my extremely unprofessional viewpoint) pretty symptomatic of an addictive/codependent personality, most markedly the urge for control over a situation that supercedes an urge for harmony. The Alcoholics Anonymous term is 'creating chaos,' the use of passive-aggressivity and enemy-making to regain 'control' (or to strip it from everyone else) over a powerless situation.

Ah, maybe that's where my 'disorienteering' comes from too! 'Creating chaos' as a way of wresting control back? Could it be that John Talaga is at this very moment working on ways for me to plant panic amongst listeners to my album, so that he and I can, co-dependently, control them? And so that they are no longer in a position to judge my material on its own merits?

And aren't you a bit of disorienteering remixer too, Channing? Can we form 'Disorienteers Anonymous', and have group meetings with Cornelius? And will he pay us $100 an hour until all debts are settled and all neuroses cured?

'Perhaps all the dragons of our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us once beautiful and brave.  Perhaps everything terrible is in its deepest being something helpless that wants help from us.' Rilke, 'Letters to a Young Poet'

My bracelet says WWID? (Who Will I Do?)

Date: 2004-10-06 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niemandsrose.livejournal.com
Or, Momus, you could just record a cover of Brecht's "Die Ballade von der sexuellen Horigkeit" (http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/d/dieballadevondersexuellenhorigkeit.shtml)!

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-06 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com
I've been trying to work through a set of those same MP3s for a year now.

The scene you describe is analogous to many in my own life, though my personal experience in theater was somewhat less arduous than yours, as my involvement, historically, has consisted chiefly of painting backdrops and lounging about backstage near the girl's dressing room.

In my school days I used to haul around a small painting kit, which, in these types of situations, I would pull out and begin to work with. Most often the reaction from my tormentors wasn't appreciably better than in your case, but at least some progress was being made for the effort!

From: [identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com
Well, you were safe until you effectively dropped the distancing pretense of 'possibly fictionalized narrative' just now.
From: [identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com
"Ah, maybe that's where my 'disorienteering' comes from too! 'Creating chaos' as a way of wresting control back? Could it be that John Talaga is at this very moment working on ways for me to plant panic amongst listeners to my album, so that he and I can, co-dependently, control them? And so that they are no longer in a position to judge my material on its own merits?"

At base, underneath much of the analogy we pass off as reality, I suspect the phenomenon speech itself is grounded in this very impulse.

PJMP3s

Date: 2004-10-06 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niemandsrose.livejournal.com
What do you think, kids, is the Pimsleur Japanese any good? I could do with a brush-up.

Re: PJMP3s

Date: 2004-10-06 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stanleylieber.livejournal.com
My progress in the language is probably not the best advertisement for the course, but I find Pimsleur's audio lessons to be the best audio lessons I've encountered.

Return of the Grump

Date: 2004-10-06 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This reminds me of your recent piece about designer masochism. Like designers, you wish to battle against conformity and turn the 'struggle' into part of the work .This seems to be the case with the music for the play. I understand your feelings completely . As the events of the rehearsals have unfolded your expectations have not been met and your unhappiness has become a form of creative belligerence.

I get that way sometimes. It is all to do with passivity and relinquishing control.The rigours of drama which need a fixed script and a structure also need some subjugation of will and spontaneity. The actors collective therapy is the musical equivalent of 'tuning up' and they of course are very happy to interpret a text rather than diverge from it. Trying to accompany this with a musical backing is a tall order.

I get bad tempered myself sometimes when creativity is involved, sometimes in a completely irrational way. This sometime happens when I am in social situations where I am forced to become one of the crowd. At a screening of " I Love Huckabees" ( a movie that I thought awful because of its self-indulgence and pretentiousness ) I squirmed and became a moody child. After the film I became very passive-aggressive (a binary that seems most apt ). It's the same thing with being subjected to music where for the rest of the world its in the background yet for me is very much in the foreground of my ears. These irritating things can be a source of anger and a sign of selfish behavior ; we don't want to conform and laugh with the rest of the audience or tune out the lift music. We probably spend to much creative time working alone.

By the way I thought the Kyoto grump radio show was the best of the bunch precisely for the very same reasons that provoked this LJ piece. "Anger is holy" and to express it now and again is the best form stress management I know. Just be careful not to express it to the wrong person !

Richard G

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Date: 2004-10-06 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jermynsavile.livejournal.com
'I'd rabbit ahead with improvisations' - my music teacher, Mr Purkiss - all greased hair slapped to the side of his thinning pate and nylon shirts fast detaching from equally synthetic trousers - would never have stood for a moments improvisation. You were lucky.

On one occasion he confiscated a copy of Cream Live - Volume Two that was kept IN MY BAG just because I had it in the room. Admittedly I'd now confiscate it from myself if I still had it just on grounds of taste.

And as for 'I persuaded my tutors to let me write essays about stuff that wasn't on the curriculum. Surprisingly, they agreed, and when I took the standardised exams at the end of the course I vindicated their permissive attitude by getting a first.' You sir, have more persuasive powers than I. Despite tutors with aspirations to trendy they were rigid about my adherence to a syllabus that grieved me. They abhorred everything about me from my Lewis Leathers Jacket to my bondage trousers - academic adherence to a rigid orthodoxy being my only refuge.

But in everything else I so identify with you. Despite their assumptions there is absolutely no reason to think that those in the 'arts' are in any way some kind of liberating force. Most of them are bureacrats and time-servers. Keep on kicking against the pricks Mr Momus. There's no reason to love the luvvies.




(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-06 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkligbeatnic.livejournal.com

... not to mention that "The Making of Crimp" is entertaining reading for all of us who are unlikely to be able to attend the play itself.

Gambatte ne.

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Date: 2004-10-06 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkligbeatnic.livejournal.com

Something I'd be wondering about - who invited Christina?

DisoriAnon

Date: 2004-10-06 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You found me out. This is actually Thom Yorke, trying to trick you into making music bland enough for me to appreciate by giving you fodder for inappropriate musician-based metaphors. I don't have an exit strategy, I admit.

Anyhoo, while I'm as in favor of chaos as the next used-clothier, I wonder if a chaos-prone personality is really a prerequisite for relevant art, or if a distaste for working toward mental health isn't more linked to old rock concepts about Integrity. Sort of the idea that, if a scientist is as puffy-haired as Einstein, he must be as brilliant as Einstein, or that all truly brilliant scientists are at least slightly unkempt. Perhaps a brilliant concept-musician, tired of the whims of his childlike temper, can do some research at his local library (for free, in a non-authority based environment!) and find some basic self-awareness tools to improve his relationships with the people whom he is asked to have decent working relationships with. And not immediately turn into late-period Paul McCartney.

But you have been living as an artist much longer and much better than I have. In the end, I can't doubt that you know what you're doing.

But I bet you could at least cull a bossa nova song about Alexander the Great going to sex addiction therapy and becoming a mystery novelist out of it.

Channing

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Date: 2004-10-06 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It may be that my school and university were so conservative, and so used to compliance, that there just wasn't any Plan B, any structure for deviance, and you could get away with it by dint of sheer surprise. It's a bit like Queen Victoria refusing to believe that lesbianism existed in 19th century Britain, and therefore refusing to sack some palace governesses someone was telling her were lesbians.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-06 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
It was the director. The funniest thing is that Christina is apparently a teacher from the school's Puppetry department! I wonder if she gives voice training to puppets and asks them how they really feel about what they just did?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-08 04:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Never be passive! Be mad! Mad like Neal Cassidy! Mad to learn and live and be saved and have sex! Be mad like Cassavetes on a movie set! Me mad for connection like Mabel in A Woman Under The Influence! Be full of energy - like my mom! Never calculate how much you did and how much others did! Just do, keep going, Duracell, untill you die. It's the only way, there never was any other way, there never will be. Gotta be mad, mad to live, can't let petty situations carry so much weight (despite what all the introspects say: this analytical and pathalogical honesty about your own volnurablities is INTERESTING READING. what they really mean to say is that it just conform their own inabilities to be mad). so shortly, be fucking mad, OK PIERRE LE FOU???? write in lipstic when u get mad ideas!!!!!

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-08 05:04 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What i meant to say is WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN IS THAT IT's JUST CONFIRMING (to find people like yaself, fucking group sociology or somthing, right??) OF THEIR OWN INABILITIES TO MAD - IT PROPELS THE SHIP IN THE WRONG DIRECTION - complacency and no tension for madness (just settlement and intellectionalization of non madness) u got that SIR?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-08 05:08 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
PS: i think this guy Channing with the sexual condepencey shit makes mad sense!!! and i think this "chaos creation" to make people dig you on YOUR terms, rather than theirs (conformity) IS EXACTLY WHAT IM DOING NOW BY NOT BEING VERY FUCKING ELABORATE AND BORIGN SENTENCE CONSTRUCTOR (COS I CAN DO THAT TOO). i think all artist do it!!!! yep!!! artists HAVE to be self loathing. INTELLECTUALS have to be ashamed of their CONSCIOUSNESS. LOWER CLASS FACTORY WORKRS FROM BIRMINGHAM HAVE TO BEAT THEIR KIds.yeP!

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-08 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Have you thought about writing speeches for George Bush?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-10-09 12:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What man!! I just wante to connect and dig you and say to me "DAMN U MAD TRUE! Can't be all wuss" or at least say "DAMN U A NICE GUY" But then u go all distance on me and make jokes (THAT I DONT EVEN GET) man i just wanted to be accepted. i even saw u in the ICA for a show, u see, i'm a STAN.

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