The camera is mightier than the rock
Aug. 3rd, 2008 06:52 am
hello Momus, I was reading an article about hipsters in Adbusters, thought it interesting enough, some good points. Was wondering, if you've read it, what you may think. b, richmond, vaHello, B. Yes, I read Douglas Haddow's piece in Adbusters. Joe and Emma were talking about it as they surfed through their blogrolls and newsfeeds. We discussed it on our way out to an art opening. Emma said Adbusters was in danger of insulting its own readers, and Joe wondered why they didn't pick one of the million-and-one things much worse wrong with the world
I have to say Haddow comes across as a satirical character, someone like Dan Ashcroft in Nathan Barley. In the first episode we find Dan writing "Rise of the Idiots", an article which insults the readers of SugarApe, and yet is destined to make them laud and worship him for his cynical vitriol even more than they already do. Dan lacks the talent to cross over from his style mag world to something more adult and substantive. "He knows the idiots are idiots, but unlike them, he suspects he's one too," as Chris Morris and Charlie Booker put it. Like Dan, their series ended up appealing only to the people who recognised themselves in its satirical targets. It preached hellfire, in other words, only to the converted.
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Haddow comes over all purple, all 6th form apocalyptic: "The half-built condos tower above us like foreboding monoliths of our yuppie futures. I take a look at one of the girls wearing a bright pink keffiyah and carrying a Polaroid camera and think, “If only we carried rocks instead of cameras, we’d look like revolutionaries.” But instead we ignore the weapons that lie at our feet – oblivious to our own impending demise.

"We are a lost generation, desperately clinging to anything that feels real, but too afraid to become it ourselves. We are a defeated generation, resigned to the hypocrisy of those before us, who once sang songs of rebellion and now sell them back to us. We are the last generation, a culmination of all previous things, destroyed by the vapidity that surrounds us. The hipster represents the end of Western civilization – a culture so detached and disconnected that it has stopped giving birth to anything new."
Haddow seriously seems to be suggesting that carrying rocks rather than cameras would make these kids better and more advanced, rather than worse and more neanderthal. Smashing things is apparently what we're put on the planet to do. "Each successive decade of the post-war era has seen it smash social standards, riot and fight to revolutionize every aspect of music, art, government and civil society." Oh really? Is that why we're still mostly wearing jeans and listening to rock music, just like people fifty years ago? Maybe this "smashing" has always been mostly gestural. Maybe it's a blood-red herring, and maybe glorifying it is a kind of pointless machismo.
Hip subcultures have come into existence, it seems to me, mostly for the purpose of creating art, and of getting the more creative kids in any generation laid (the geeky ones tend to be the ones who need to rely on culture rather than mere nature when it comes to luring attractive partners into bed). Unfortunately, Haddow fails to get down to the serious business of art criticsm -- to tell us whether Dash Snow is better than Terence Koh, and whether Ryan McGinley is more interesting than Ryan McGinness, and why. You cannot dismiss a whole culture based on one sketchy description of a DJ mix. But the Catch-22 is that as soon as you start talking about how skulls are dull, or how Koh is better than Snow, you're basically carrying on the conversation the subculture carries on with itself on a daily basis. Jeremiads are therefore a safer option for the naysayer than prac crit.
Then we come to the apparently-damning argument that the hip subculture can be marketed to. "Hipsterdom is the first “counterculture” to be born under the advertising industry’s microscope, leaving it open to constant manipulation but also forcing its participants to continually shift their interests and affiliations," Haddow writes. "Less a subculture, the hipster is a consumer group."
In an age where anyone can be marketed to, this isn't particularly damning. I'm sure that somewhere, as we speak, a Shining Path Maoist is being sold a Shining Path Maoist t-shirt via AdSense, thanks to a link between Shining Path Maoist keywords and Shining Path Maoist products being marketed in his area. This does not, however, invalidate the politics or philosophy of Shining Path Maoism. It just gives him the chance to proclaim what he believes in via a t-shirt, should he so desire. Let's just take it for granted that anything can and will be sold to anyone, even -- hello, Adbusters! -- the idea of things not being sold.

I agree with my former boss at Vice, Gavin McInnes, when he says that disdain of hip subculture tends to come from "chubby bloggers who aren't getting laid", people who are "just so mad at these young kids for going out and getting wasted and having fun and being fashionable".
There's derision in Haddow's article for American Apparel, but no mention of the company's non-sweatshop activities, or the fact that its advertising keeps low circulation lesbian magazines in print.
Haddow also fails to look at -- or even mention -- the centrality of skate culture to hip subculture. Skate culture is a way to hack the city, a way to turn all its hard, inhuman surfaces into an opportunity to demonstrate extraordinary human skills, Skating and street painting turns greyness into colour, and alienation into belonging, and boredom into skill. It's central to big chunks of hip subculture, and it's a political blow against one of the central evils of our time, the motor car, which would make a much more worthy target for a radical magazine.
Not only does Haddow fail to see that hip subculture is a big machine for creating sex and art, he fails to see that being hip can be a sort of code of honour, something sadly lacking in the cultural mainstream. The spiritual sloth Haddow accuses the hip subculture of is actually much more prevalent in the general population, which schlepps about in jeans and listens to shapeless, floppy music and sleepwalks through shapeless, floppy jobs. People in the hip subculture are more likely -- like chivalric aristocrats -- to pay attention to what they're wearing, to experiment, to innovate. As for the value of what they come up with, that brings us back to the hands-on prac crit the Adbusters article avoids, desperate to stay arm's-length.
Sure, the hip subculture, seen from a certain distance (like next door when you're trying to sleep and they're partying), can be frustratingly superficial, conformist, holier than thou. But think of it as something people do in their 20s, and think of 20something hipsters spreading out, in their 30s and 40s, in more and more individual directions, becoming artists, visionaries, eccentrics... or just settling down to bring up kids in a neighbourhood with an organic grocery and soya milk ice cream.
In the end, the camera is mightier than the rock.
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Date: 2008-08-03 05:14 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-08-03 05:23 am (UTC)Every subculture reserves its strongest vitriol for itself. Nobody hates hipsters more than hipsters. Adbusters is an incredibly hipster magazine.
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Date: 2008-08-03 06:15 am (UTC)Hipster culture is not a monoculture - there are a million gradiations, all as full of people who are empty trendoids as they are of people who are doing genuinely interesting things. This has always been true. What's more interesting to me is that there are still hordes of people dressing and acting exactly like the 'idiots' in the nathan barlow clip three years on. This particular iteration of the subculture is becoming moribund and saturated with camp followers, and I am bored to death with the forced childishness of their music, and haven't we gotten over irony yet, and etc.
The idea that there is something especially sick about this particular generation's hipsterism is ludicrous, of course. But your "chubby bloggers who aren't getting laid" comment reminds us of how shitty hipsters can be - the combination of complacency and insecurity among those who are never quite sure they're not faking it, the nihilism, the needless cruelty and exclusiveness, the 'code of honor' (a nauseating way to put it) which privileges the wealthy, the idle and the thin...
I understand why this guy is angry, is my point. I resent the idea that there is no middle ground between being a 'shapeless, floppy' (there's body shape again) middle american and being the kind of person who is hung over until 2 PM every single day of the week. Where does it say that people my age have to act like overgrown infants in order to create art? How can a really vital subculture be so stratified in its affectations that they can be ticked off the checklist in an article like this, from keffiyeh to fixies?
Something new, please. Maybe a victorian revival! Awesome.
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Date: 2008-08-03 06:28 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-08-03 07:32 am (UTC)'The cultural zeitgeists of the past have always been sparked by furious indignation and are reactionary movements. But the hipster’s self-involved and isolated maintenance does nothing to feed cultural evolution."
Your argument seems to be something like "rocks don't help - we're just trying to get laid and have fun! Nothing's changed in the past 50 years through any of those so-called revolutionary movements anyway."
I think people buy and wear jeans because they choose not to make appearance and clothing a priority in their financial decisions. They also tend to work shit jobs because they have been doomed by systemic stagnation into having a very similar life to what their parents have had - people often don't see or realize the options available to them. Hipsterism is not really an option for the more disadvantaged of society, nor does it do anything to help them.
My feeling is that you and Haddow disagree more philsophically, on the central raison d'etre of a "cultural movement". He seems to be saying that they are a waste of resources, if they are not directly and aggressively challenging the political realities of the day, and you seem to be saying that a sufficient purpose is the expression and interrelation they create amongst their own members.
It may be that the hipster/art/fixie/indulgent aesthetic helps liberate people's viewpoints from the everyday that they are fed and most never escape, and that is an interesting way to challenge Haddow's argument on its own terms.
Personally I just can't stand attention-whoring twats, so I try and judge people based on that, as opposed to how many gears their bike has. It just seems that practically everyone with a fixie is an attention-whoring twat. C'est la vie.
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Date: 2008-08-03 08:16 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-08-03 08:22 am (UTC)Are children hung over every day? Metaphorical consistency could save this generation!
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Date: 2008-08-03 09:28 am (UTC)So it's nihilism or nothing is it?
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Date: 2008-08-03 12:53 pm (UTC)..and as for the getting laid business...ughh.
Chubby blogger.
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Date: 2008-08-03 01:10 pm (UTC)But then, that's Adbusters for you.
CORPORATE AMERICA! BOOO! CORPORATIONS WITH THEIR CORPORATE WAGE SLAVERY BEING ALL CORPORATERY DOING EVIL CORPORATEY STUFF! BOOOOOOO!
The problem with this article is he over-exaggerates the severity of the situation and offers stupid alternatives like carrying rocks instead of cameras. Coz smashing shit up is gonna solve world hunger, yeah?
Skinny jeans and a Keffiyeh are all potentially annoying but ultimately harmless if donned by a hipster attention-whore. The general level of artistic homogeneity can be tiresome but it's all subjective...
...the dead end of western civilization? No, just the dead end of yet another vapid Adbuster campaign.
Hipster Runoff (http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/) is the only place worth going for a criticism of hipsterdom, purely because it's simply satire as opposed to a diatribe predicting the coming of the Apocalypse because someone bought a neon tshirt from American Apparel.
hipsters??
Date: 2008-08-03 01:40 pm (UTC)oh ,so is that the word for this generation of pussies behind me?? i've always used the word pussies. anyway, the adbusters article said they don't like to be called hipsters so i'll stick with my own term for them.
not to say that if any of us had been born at this time in world history, here in the western world we'd handle the co-opt of cool by corporatism any better than they are.
it's all gonna fall folks..this whole fake f-in' world we've consumed...when?? dunno.
but it's about which side you take afterwards...and with the way things are going these pussies will be calling for martial law, curfews, 1984 style.... from their condo balconies as the rest of humanity try climbing their condo wall for something to eat.
todd
my line on hipsters
Date: 2008-08-03 01:42 pm (UTC)The people on stage, and the people who pass down The Knowledge, usually tend to be shy introverted types, not these type A scenesters.
Spot on with the rest of your criticism. I just think you give the average hipster way too much credit.
ps: Livejoural support for OpenID is terrible. Doesn't work.
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Date: 2008-08-03 01:58 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-08-03 02:34 pm (UTC)Re: my line on hipsters
Date: 2008-08-03 05:03 pm (UTC)Hipsterism seems to be a lot about what you wear, how bored your expression can be, where you hang out, etc - as Charlie Brooker referred to, both in and out of Nathan Barley, whether you're a 'haircut' (see the 'Geek Pie' episode of Nathan Barley, i think it's episode 5, for the perfect slighting of an attempt at a seemingly trendy haircut).
In London, as im sure in numerous other places, it's still mostly like this - namedropping cool bands, piddling around in dalston, etc.
A huge swathe of the people taking part in this to-ing and fro-ing, contributing to their own and their peers' hype are indeed boring and uncreative when you get down to it - just spend some time having your energy sapped by them and you'll know it's true. I can't believe how grossly unimaginative so many of them are, and that many of them they get away with producing parasitic, pointess crap and calling it art. But, as Momus said, another chunk of them are genuinely doing interesting things.
Increasingly, i know that those who do the bona fide interesting things are the ones who don't need to shout about it. They have the capacity to lock themselves away, get immersed in what they're doing, and not give two shits about the scene. On weekends, or whenever they get the chance, they set about their creative work, because good stuff, unless you're touched by insane genius, takes a shitload of time, dedication, persistence and caring about challenging yourself. The people doing the really interesting, beautiful work are those who dont need to dress fashionably for attention, who dont need to go to the right shows and parties for validation, they're the ones walking away from that crowd and following their own path, come what may.
Way too many hipsters think they're doing this by co-opting the aesthetics/cultural capital of whatever has currency - and there's an awful lot which does - we've inherited decades of great stuff to plunder through and recycle. they believe they've located their rebel soul in some electrobeats or what have you, or they have a book of terry richardson photos and wow look, they take 'edgy' photos too, but when you strip away whatever they've decked themselves out in, be it music, art, clothes, posing, whatever, often the essence of their ideas is, unoriginal, vacuous, or just plain shallow.
[enter most of the output of Vice magazine...]
i can't express it any better than that, sorry...
I guess you've just got to be the judge for yourself as to the extremely subtle gradations of who and what are a 'waste of time' along the hipster spectrum. but then, that's different for everyone.
Maybe i'm just bitter. i think that creativity takes work, and kindling your imagination to produce worthwhile stuff does too, and unless you're lucky enough not to have a day job, how are you meant to get that time to do that if you're always hanging at gigs and parties? Maybe i just need a coke habit and a better ability to delude myself that i'm brilliant.
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Date: 2008-08-03 05:04 pm (UTC)Yeah, that's the ticket.
I was just read this article in the supermarket isle last night and I thought: "I wonder what Momus thinks?"
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Date: 2008-08-03 05:08 pm (UTC)Any group attracting this reaction has obvious marketing appeal.
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