My agenda

Feb. 26th, 2008 01:54 pm
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Is it my agenda, or is it wishful thinking? As our societies move from manufacturing to information and services, we're moving from material to postmaterial values. As the internet and new folk forms make trad copyright look increasingly irrelevant, we've made the transition from a culture which was all about the ownership of physical property to a culture which is more about temporary experiences and spectacle. If property is involved, it's rented, or collectively owned, or microproperty in flow world.



At a certain point in the 90s I noticed that, whereas I'd once have wanted to buy things I saw and liked, I was content to snap digital pictures of them and put them on a website somewhere; that was just as satisfying. With this realisation comes the idea that the public and the collective, so long neglected because of a Thatcher-Reagan-style emphasis on ownership, are once more becoming important. Why own a house in the suburbs when you can rent one in a revitalized city centre full of public amenities? Why own a pool when you can visit a nice public one?

These shifts, and the ongoing transition of culture to the digital realm, have changed what I do as an artist. Once the CD -- a plastic object owned by one set of people and bought by another -- was everything. You toured to "promote" this plastic object, which means you performed approximative versions of the songs on it in front of a group of people who'd -- with any luck -- buy it, thus making the people who owned it (including yourself, a kind of minority shareholder in the process) richer. Now, CDs promote live shows, experiences. The premium -- the thing people are willing to pay money for -- has become a unique personal appearance, a collectively-shared event, something that can't be digitized and sent out over the internet. In this postmaterialist, spectacular new world, artists are freed up from the rote chore of plugging CDs by performing songs off them. The kind of appearances and spectacles they concoct can be much more various.



Is it my agenda, or is it some dates in my diary? As a result of the changes featured on my ideological agenda, my date agenda over the next few months is a hell of a lot more interesting, diverse and downright weird than it would have been a few years ago. Next month I'll be showing some visual field recordings, singing a song at the unveiling of a planned gigantic necropolis near the Bauhaus, and traveling to Prague to do a spoken word performance at a gallery hosting the whispering piece I've shown in London and New York.

In April I'll be singing improvised new lyrics to old standards from a balcony inside the MUDAM gallery in Luxembourg. The artist Candice Breitz, who's organised Call and Response, is interested in a post-property idea of art: "A central premise of this series of events," she explains, "is my belief that all creative acts are responses to other creative acts, all creative thinkers are in dialogue (consciously or otherwise) with other creative thinkers, and all works of art (subtly or otherwise) feed on and reflect existing works of art. It is therefore somewhat nonsensical to imagine that only certain artists are recyclers and samplers, as defined against those who continue to produce ‘original’ works of art."



May sees me singing songs at the 5th Poprevo Festival in Aarhus, Denmark, giving a spirit medium ghost tour of Richmond Library at an event called Libraries Aloud, and being a singing installation at the Vienna Technical University, incanting chemical formulae while vibrating tuned bowls of water (ideally played by Tomoko Sauvage, if they can afford to fly her in).

Then in June it looks like I'll do a piece at the Hide and Seek festival which turns London into Tokyo (I can't tell you how at the moment). Later in the year French and German publishers will publish my Book of Jokes, and I hope there'll be a new Momus album too. But, whereas once that piece of plastic would have been the sun around which everything else orbited, now it's a somewhat peripheral relic of a much more formatted, materialistic time, a time when everything you did was oriented to property, not experiences.



Of course, there are paradoxes galore. Central London, like central New York, has become prohibitively expensive, a playzone for the super-rich. And yet, although I can't afford to live there any more, it's become ever-cheaper to fly in for "the London experience". I don't need to own property in London or New York to enjoy them -- I just need projects to do there, games to play, experiences to share. Similarly, the reason the art world is booming is that the super-rich buy art as an investment. But at the same time, you can "consume" art as a series of experiences (biennials, for instance) without ever buying a single piece. Materialist and postmaterialist ways of seeing -- having and being -- co-exist, for the time being. We play while others work, we look at what others own. Despite different mindsets and mentalities, somehow our agendas sync up.

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Date: 2008-02-26 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It was worth it to throw out the whole copyright thing, I think. Some of us artists did make money from selling CDs at one point, but we were all terribly overwhelmed with guilt. And we also felt that the copyright was some kind of authority that we had to knock down. It felt oppressive. Don't ask me why.

Besides! CDs cost too much. I was being held hostage. It was a fucking plastic disc, with digital data on it.

You know how much it costs to hire just four string players for 4 hours? About $1,000. Imagine what a full orchestra would cost. But now that nobody is making money off CDs, we won't have to hear that kind of thing anymore. That kind of sound had run its course, anyway. Besides, for the past couple years I've only really listened to trickling water and insect noises.

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Date: 2008-02-26 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
Speaking of sharing experiences, I thought you might be interested in seeing this:

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You're probably aware of the fact Yaohan Plaza is due to be demolished (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6158376.stm) and replaced with a new complex with a school and apartments. The businesses are all guaranteed a place in this complex once it's built but they're all worried they won't last the 2 or 3 years it will take.

These are the new apartments that have been built behind Yaohan Plaza in NW London. I'm not sure if theyre part of the redevelopment or part of a separate build but you'll notice they're not your usual London apartments -- the architects have obviously gone out of their way to orientalize this structure. There are wooden slatted screens everywhere on this building, and a lot of the doors are solid, untreated wood. I really hope this is the general theme of the redevelopment, and that they intend to orientalize the entire complex to reflect the ethnic community here.

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I asked the owner of うつわの館 what she and her staff were going to do during the redevelopment. She said she was leaving the area in may 2008 but planned to come back once the place was rebuilt.

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Yaohan Plaza isnt what it used to be in the early days under the Japanese management. It's slowly fallen into neglect, and I hope the redevelopment changes this. My only hope is they don't wipe this place clean of its character.
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Date: 2008-02-26 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Mostly "wishful thinking" I'd say. Your typical riff is to note down your own interests and life evolution, and then generalise about the world from there. It's doubly solipsistic, because you are in no way typical of your gender, race, age, sexual orientation, class or occupation. Just for starters, the vast majority of heterosexual men your age have children, which changes things rather radically. You can no longer live in a tiny apartment in a "revitalized city centre", because you need more space, and preferably a garden for kids to run around in. I know, because I have a small child and I do still live in a city centre, and I do have to put up with said child going stir-crazy for lack of space and an outside area. And there are fifty million other ways in which extrapolating the world from the personal experiences and domestic arrangements of Momus is really not going to cut it...

Niche creating and Momus' many pies.

Date: 2008-02-26 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomascott.livejournal.com
That work/play ratio is very much dictated by where one's occupation and where one lives....it's sometimes about finding a means to reconfigure.
The idea for example of starting a business in order to work less may seem an oxymoron but that's what I chose to do seven years ago.
Similarly I bought a small house in the country - the payments on which are half that of Dublin rents.
I thus have more time to live and the money saved allows me to visit (more interesting) other cities rather than making a buck for the rapacious serial property investors whose greed has pushed rents here into the stratosphere.

At a juncture in which the music media seem to believe pop is dead and buried (this month Observer Music Monthly with it's balance sheets and stock retro being example), it is inspiring to read an article by a pop musician indicating how there are other means of being and doing.

what?

Date: 2008-02-26 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
no one forces you to read this..
sounds like you were forced to have off spring though

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Date: 2008-02-26 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's a touch contradictory to claim as an example of post-materialism the fact that London is so expensive to live in you can now only experience it via Easyjet... There's a reason that London is so damned expensive, and that's because everyone want to quite literally own a piece of it!

Similarly with the art world. Yes, there are biennales and other means of experiencing art without buying it (there always was; it's nothing new). But that doesn't mean that what's really fuelling the art world is the enormous sums being thrown at it by a new class of super-rich who really do want to "own" art, for whom the owning is in fact the experience.

Re: what?

Date: 2008-02-26 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
On the contrary: I absolutely love having a child. And I hope to move to somewhere more compatible with that love just as soon as I can afford to.

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Date: 2008-02-26 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
thanks for posting these, kuma. i've been wondering what was happening to yaohan, but it's a long way for a visit. that new building is pretty nice, it'll be great if the whole plaza gets that kind of makeover. even better if the bookshop reappears.
ps: i like your tableware.

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Date: 2008-02-26 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Did you leave a "not" out of your last sentence there?

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Date: 2008-02-26 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
You've no idea how jealous it makes me to see Suntory green tea on sale in London, because it's a product you can't get for love nor money anywhere here in Berlin. I mean, I know it's probably £3, but still, it's got the taste of Japan, unlike the cheap Chinese knock-offs for sale here. Similarly with Japanese magazines. Nowhere -- but nowhere -- sells them in Berlin. It's the capital of Germany, it's cheap and sexy, but it lacks something sometimes on the consumerist front.

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Date: 2008-02-26 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Well, I think you're failing to generalize from your own experience! You live in a city centre with a small child -- just like my friend Alin, or my friend Eric, or my sister, or Babis, or... just about everyone I know, in fact -- and yet you tell me that children stop you from doing that!

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Date: 2008-02-26 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
I would be stoked if the bookshop made a return but somehow I doubt it... it was the largest Japanese book shop in Europe apparently.

Yaohan is now full of over-priced tat from Hong Kong... if those shops die off I won't be too bothered, as long as the supermarket, utsuwa no yakata and the food court are still there.

ps. you should try to pay Utsuwa No Yukata a visit before May, theyre having a massive clearence sale.

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Date: 2008-02-26 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Um, yeah.

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Date: 2008-02-26 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Well, but that's what I was saying in the piece, you've just reversed the order so that your point ends on the negatives whereas mine ended on the positives! In both cases, though, I think we recognize that these are "paradoxes" whose cracks little ecosystems can exist in, for now, anyway. I mean, who knows how long Berlin will be cheap? But somewhere will always be cheap. Will visas be tightened? Will the internet stop being free? Will the world financial system collapse? Who knows, but whatever happens there'll be ways to keep going, and some of them will involve collective property, high density, and interesting experiences.

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Date: 2008-02-26 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And on a more careful reading of your post, I see you label these as paradoxes. Which leads me to wonder whether rather than moving towards a post-materialist age, what's really happening is that the middle is being cut out of the spectrum. You have the super-rich super-materialism, and at the other end of the spectrum you have those who are forced to opt out of materialism. And with not so much in between.

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Date: 2008-02-26 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
On that point, I think you're right. And that's why I think the British Army is right (http://imomus.livejournal.com/277568.html) that if and when Marxist revolution returns, it'll be the middle classes who foment it.

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Date: 2008-02-26 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
All bottled Japanese drinks are 70p, which isnt bad for London, that's what you'd be charged for a bottle of drink in a cornershop.
I don't know how long it's been since you went there but they've expanded the Japanese food section, it even has its own attendant.

I saw something in utsuwa no yakata that reminded me of you (for some odd reason):

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They had these cute terra cotta clay cups in the haniwa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haniwa) style, with haniwa style faces and limbs on them.

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Date: 2008-02-26 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
We play while others work

Or, perhaps, "we can play, because others work"? Looks to me like an awful lot of what you enjoy, especially in Berlin, and what allows you to have your lifestyle, is funded by taxation of other peoples' income.

der.

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Date: 2008-02-26 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgazz.livejournal.com
"we've made the transition from a culture which was all about the ownership of physical property to a culture which is more about temporary experiences and spectacle."

It's wishful thinking. Here in Angloland, we're more obsessed with the ownership of physical property than ever. Maybe 'property v spectacle' is a false opposition - for every TV channel pumping out hours of pointless spectacle and pretend experiences, there's one showing non-stop marathons of "buy to let in Slovenia" programmes.

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Date: 2008-02-26 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgazz.livejournal.com
Nice to see the MOD employing a Marxist class analysis, though :)

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Date: 2008-02-26 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
While the authorities would like us all to be buying to let in Slovenia -- or in the towns around Berlin, for that matter -- it's questionable whether such ownership makes sense. Here, for instance, there's the shrinking cities (http://imomus.livejournal.com/57298.html) phenomenon, a massive housing oversupply (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9907E1DF103EF93BA15756C0A9629C8B63&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss) combined with general demographic and industrial decline, combined with a worldwide property slump, or at least the threat of one. Those things together mean that ownership for its own sake makes less and less sense. What matters is using, our good friend Use Value.

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Date: 2008-02-26 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
The Worldchanging blog (http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/001376.html) has a good piece on how shrinking cities are the ones most brimming with the possibility of radical transformation.

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Date: 2008-02-26 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Except that that this is not what he's telling you. He's telling you that he doesn't like having to live in the kind of flat he can afford in the city centre, because what he can afford is too small for the child to be happy in.

By replying (to something he didn't say) with what people you know do just underlines what he did imply, namely that you only know people who are like you. (Except of course that probably most of the people you were referring to with "just about everyone I know" are 20 yrs younger than you.)

der.

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Date: 2008-02-26 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
der.

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Date: 2008-02-26 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
probably most of the people you were referring to with "just about everyone I know" are 20 yrs younger than you.

Absolutely not the case. The people I mentioned are all in their 40s except Eric, who's late 30s. They live in inner cities very happily, with children. Amazingly enough, children use public facilities -- schools, libraries, swimming pools, parks -- which are much more abundant in such places than out in the sticks. There's no rule saying that when you reproduce you suddenly have to switch to a suburban, private property-oriented lifestyle.

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Date: 2008-02-26 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrow-sea.livejournal.com
I'm in! Eat the Rich. Seriously, letting go of the desire to own status objects like fine art and high-end real estate is indeed freeing. I'd rather be a creative nomad than a wage-slave with a fat mortgage. Your analysis may be a self-interested justification of your lifestyle, but isn't that the point? :) It's a perfectly viable alternative.

Re: Niche creating and Momus' many pies.

Date: 2008-02-26 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
Right there with you, Thomas--been doing it for fourteen.

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Date: 2008-02-26 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] count-vronsky.livejournal.com
Trickling Water are good, but I really only listen to their early, experimental ambient stuff anymore. Insect Noises on the other hand are really hot right now. I went to a field last night to hear them play, but was turned away because of the crowd. (and I know the doorman!)

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Date: 2008-02-26 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Damn, I wish I'd written that comment!

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Date: 2008-02-26 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomascott.livejournal.com
The British army have always been such inveterate japesters, as we well know. Do we all get a BMW and an unused compost bin in the middle class communist republic?

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Date: 2008-02-26 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumakouji.livejournal.com
"Do we all get a BMW and an unused compost bin in the middle class communist republic?"

yeah, along with huge lines of people queueing up for their government rations of pomegranate juice and organic asparagus.

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Date: 2008-02-26 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-whimsy.livejournal.com
Fresh produce is counter-revolutionary, K.
(http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/62-knowing-whats-best-for-poor-people/)

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Date: 2008-02-26 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eclectiktronik.livejournal.com
"As our societies move from manufacturing to information and services, we're moving from material to postmaterial values."

...Hmmm, we need a bit more in depth study of this. I don't yet see the rich slowing down in their consumption of property, of luxury goods, etc. In fact, the banks here made record profits last year. They still own most of the country, directly or indirectly, as in most capitalist societies!

As long as we live in a society where class identity depends on one using consumer goods to project an image of oneself, (from the latest gadgets like phones, cameras, personal stereo players etc. through to those awful yuppie-mobile 4x4s), I think there's still a bit to go before post- materialism sets in on any kind of scale. Add to that the fact that world industrial society still depends on the production of surplus of goods....

It's even possible that in the current scenario, abandoning property ownwership actually might be dangerous. You get many people renting property, but then who rushes in and buys up the properties? You may have a few savvy corporation who are accumulating capital (and hence power!) by renting out flats and at the same time paying their mortgages or even living off the profits....then again abandoning ownership means fewer mortgages and less income for the banks, so its a complicated situation. still, bring on that revolution, I say!

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Date: 2008-02-26 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ownership of property seems to me to be a growing imperative around the world. The super rich are putting exclusive experiences out of the reach of even the middle classes while the new wealth in the BRICs is making competition for basic resources like food and energy fiercer than ever before. Reagan would have approved of your enjoyment of Bienniales and the like since he was a big advocate of the trickle-down effect.

In the music world surely people still want to possess the songs they previously bought on CD. Just because they can now, largely illegally, download MP3s, I don't see why you would conclude that interest in ownership has declined.

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Date: 2008-02-26 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Some see the history of the world as an ever-increasing, inevitable commodification of everything. First water is free, then they bottle it and sell it to you. How long before they do that to the air?

But in fact, decommodification is going on all the time. Things we expected to pay for are becoming free. Music in its physical form has been decommodified, and it's just the beginning; all intellectual property which can be uploaded to the net may soon follow suit. Decommodification is the beginning of a society where attention is more important than money, so you make as much as possible free to gain mindshare. Sound familiar?

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Date: 2008-02-27 03:00 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiichigo/2217913119/)

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Date: 2008-02-27 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daikonsensei.myopenid.com (from livejournal.com)
Thanks, an interesting read. It seems to me that to an extent the post-materialist culture you describe rather depends on cheap consumer electronics, cheap electricity and cheap internet access. I suspect all these things might become more expensive. Cheap chinese manufacturing can't last forever, oil and gas may already be in decline. On the other hand, the internet now consumes massive amounts of electricity and only likely to consume more (at least in the short-medium term?), maybe. What happens to the microflow if the channels are restricted?

as an aside, can't somebody make an annual, or a triennial? why always the bienniale? or are they actually holding bienniales 3 times a year and hoping that artists really don't know what month/day/year it is?



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Date: 2008-02-27 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imomus.livejournal.com
Actually, the Berlin Biennial, despite the name, was a triennial for the first six years of its life -- economic problems meant they could only stage two instead of three, both delayed a year.

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Date: 2008-02-27 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akabe.livejournal.com
and the yokohama trienale seems to run every 4 years. think it might have something to do with the way computers count in C and C++ etc

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Date: 2008-02-27 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I need to get an account. I'm a new "anonymous."

Anyway, "city centers" come in all sizes. I think that the Paris/New York/London model probably is a little too dense for most family living. And the Western US-style "cities" like Los Angeles and Phoenix are barely urban in character.

A good balance is a city like Washington, DC, which is dense enough to support a metro system, but has a mix of neighborhoods and where it is possible to find a place with a yard within metro distance that's affordable.

For that matter, you can in NY, too, if you are willing to live in Staten Island, north Jersey, or Queens.

Re: Niche creating and Momus' many pies.

Date: 2008-02-27 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah, but...... it's pretty easy to live in the "country" when you're less than an hour's drive from Philly or NY. The Pine Barrens are a wonderful place to live, but the experience of what's available to you there is not generalizable to one who wants to live in a cabin in, e.g., Saskatchewan.

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