Anger in Angrael
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imomusOn the way to and from Sweden I have a few hours between planes in London. Since the Iraq war I've been lumping Britain, America and Israel together in my mind and calling them Angrael. Angrael is the Anglo-American-Israeli alliance. Angrael is a place I've left, and a place I consider to be 'living wrong', but I'm always fascinated to go back for a glimpse, to guage whether it's changing, and in what ways.
Angrael is 'living wrong' mainly because of Judeo-Christianity, but also because of Capitalism. Christianity is a form of world-hating asceticism which, as Max Weber showed in his book The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, was turned by capitalism into 'worldly asceticism'. Capitalism didn't teach us to love the things that Christianity taught us to hate, merely to market them. The results are what we see in the England and America of today (a celebrated and persecuted homosexual once called this 'knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing'): a mistrust of the textures and pleasures of life -- time, food, the feminine, the childish, the body, sex (that's the asceticism part) -- combined with a paradoxical expertise in marketing simulacra of, and substitutes for, these things (that's the worldliness part).
Here are some snapshots of the new and not-so-new ways Anglo-Angrael manifested itself to me on just two short days between planes:
Big signs addressed to asylum-seekers at Stansted airport. Basically saying 'Watch it!' and signed by HM Government and (less visibly) the Daily Mail.
Men on the underground reading a new lad mag called the Zoo Weekly. All I can glimpse is a photo of six women in a circle squishing their breasts together against a pane of glass.
The back page of the Sun has someone called Neville (presumably a football manager) calling a team 'a bunch of girls'. Another paper quotes him as saying the team weren't 'real men'.
A new cooking show on BBC2, Rick Stein's Food Heroes. Stein seems to be on a mission to educate the British away from their asceticism. His message, as he travels around Britain talking to 'small producers who value quality above profit', is that food is a pleasure, and that the super marketing of the supermarket system is actually decreasing our chance of enjoying tasty, interesting and varied food. The French and the Japanese would completely agree, and have protected their small producers and retailers against the ravages of capitalism. But it isn't a French or Japanese person telling the British the error of their ways. It's a British Jew (Rick himself is still an asylum-seeker of sorts: he says on the BBC website 'I've lived in Padstow for about 36 years. As I always say, I'm never going to be a local!'). I find that culturally very telling. British people listen to someone Jewish telling them to enjoy life much more than they'd listen to someone French or Japanese (and on British TV there's a long tradition of this: Lloyd Grossman, the Freuds, the Theroux). It's also possible that Jews see the limitations of Angrael more clearly than anyone else. Perhaps they even feel some degree of responsibility. 'We got you into this ascetic mess,' they seem to be saying, 'but we can get you out of it too.' Like Marx or Freud, Rick Stein can correct some of the mistakes we made when we imported Jewish ideology like the Ten Commandments, but got it all out of context, got it wrong, went too far with it.
The next thing I notice in Britain is a piece of graffiti on Piccadilly that just says 'Blair Out'. It's the first time I've seen that phrase, but I haven't been in Angrael much since the war.
After that, the next thing I notice is an exhibition called State of Play at the Serpentine Gallery. Play is a big theme with me, a corrective to the ambient asceticism and hypocritical moralism and marketing and pluricide and nannying. This great little show is about what I call Cute Formalism, and what Pat Kane calls The Play Ethic. Here at the Serpentine it's all about the tendency of people like Sarah Sze and Martin Creed to use humour and humble materials in their work. Play, like cookery, corrects the puritanism of Angrael but even here a note of caution has to be sounded: never forget the Social Services are watching! The warning comes in a piece by David Shrigley consisting of two table tennis bats (one small, one big) and two balls. The small bat is marked 'Your parents'. The big one is marked 'The Social Services'. The balls, suspended between them, are marked 'You' and 'Your wee sister'.
The next thing I notice happening in Angrael is a Jewish-American photographer getting all panicky at the Photographer's Gallery. She's Betsy Schneider and she's sitting there in the cafe (where I'm chewing a rather dismal British sandwich) talking to journalists on two cellphones and consulting with two other women on what statements to make. Schneider has been caught up in a typically Angraeli farrago. Her exhibition at the Spitz Gallery in Spitalfields Market has been closed just a day after opening because it contains photographs of a naked child: her daughter Madeleine, aged 5. One visitor saw another visitor taking photos of the photo. A complaint was made to the gallery staff, who, terrified of being sued or closed down, draped Schneider's pictures (or should we call them 'graven idols'?) with pieces of cloth and called in the police. After questioning her, the police decided Schneider's photos were lawful.
It turns out that Schneider, who lives in Norway, has had a history of problems with British photo labs, who consistently blow the whistle on people bringing them photos of naked children. The Guardian reports that 'three years ago a student of hers had some nude photos developed and processing staff reported her to the police. She in turn mentioned her teacher's work and Schneider was visited by a child protection team. She managed to prove it was an artistic project and no more action was taken. Sally Mann, for whom Schneider acted as live-in assistant from 1993-95, was subject to threats over her nude photos of children, and Schneider admits it occurred to her that her show, Inventory, could cause some upset.' The next day The Guardian added that Schneider was also arrested after having pictures of a naked Madeleine developed in a laboratory in Soho, but was released without charge. O Angrael, our home and native land!
In a country which cannot deal with beauty except to see it as sin, and which regards images of naked children as sexual by default, this sort of skirmish happens with depressing frequency. The Guardian reminds its readers that 'three years ago, police were called to the Saatchi gallery in north-west London when the question of indecency was raised in connection with photographs by the American Tierney Gearon of her young children in various states of undress. The Gearon case was resolved when Chris Smith, the then culture secretary, intervened on the gallery's behalf with a brisk lecture to the police about censorship. Much of the furore had been got up, with characteristically synthetic moral outrage, by the News of the World.' I think it's relevant to point out that Chris Smith is gay. Light comes to benighted Angrael in the form of liberal jews and gays.
Having been an artist in Angrael myself, I know the temptation to play Marylin Manson-type games of provocation with the press. What better way to use and ruse the great central Angraeli paradox, asceticism combined with worldliness, than to turn puritanism into marketing? How better to turn Angrael's problematic greens (vegetables, children, nature, diversity) into its unproblematic greens (money and the Jealous God)?
Someone who did just that, and lived to laugh last, is back. Genesis P-Orridge, chased out of Britain in a tabloid-and-police Satanic abuse scandal in the early 90s, reforms Throbbing Gristle for an event called RE-TG taking place between the 14th and 16th of May at the appropriately dismal, British-sounding Camber Sands Holiday Centre in East Sussex. There are, of course, site-specific installations by Jake and Dinos Chapman. No doubt they'll turn the centre into a vast Auschwitz-McDonald's internment camp where naked children are fed to asylum seekers. My friend Scanner is there too, and rare Derek Jarman films will be screened.
I'm not quite sure if Re-TG is a refusal of Angraeli values or a darkside celebration of them. It's all Hieronymous Bosch to me. Once upon a time I might have given a damn about the hang-ups of this little island, the left side of the Angrael triangle, where Jerusalem is always being built on whatever green space the dark, satanic mills can spare. First you get 'industry' then you get 'a celebration of industrial music in the 21st century'. First you get 'children should been seen and not heard' then you get 'every naked child a porn star'. Disgust with life leads to marketing, marketing leads to disgust with life. Once upon a time my anger at Angrael might have driven me to seek revenge, and revenge might have been publicity, and publicity might have integrated me, paradoxically, into the national story, and towards exactly such gatherings as Re-TG, this 'coalition of the willful'. Not any more. Life is too short and too good. I will be elsewhere, enjoying it, playing, and trying to learn from people who know that better than I do. Children, homosexuals and foreigners, mostly.
Angrael is 'living wrong' mainly because of Judeo-Christianity, but also because of Capitalism. Christianity is a form of world-hating asceticism which, as Max Weber showed in his book The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, was turned by capitalism into 'worldly asceticism'. Capitalism didn't teach us to love the things that Christianity taught us to hate, merely to market them. The results are what we see in the England and America of today (a celebrated and persecuted homosexual once called this 'knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing'): a mistrust of the textures and pleasures of life -- time, food, the feminine, the childish, the body, sex (that's the asceticism part) -- combined with a paradoxical expertise in marketing simulacra of, and substitutes for, these things (that's the worldliness part).
Here are some snapshots of the new and not-so-new ways Anglo-Angrael manifested itself to me on just two short days between planes:
Big signs addressed to asylum-seekers at Stansted airport. Basically saying 'Watch it!' and signed by HM Government and (less visibly) the Daily Mail.
Men on the underground reading a new lad mag called the Zoo Weekly. All I can glimpse is a photo of six women in a circle squishing their breasts together against a pane of glass.
The back page of the Sun has someone called Neville (presumably a football manager) calling a team 'a bunch of girls'. Another paper quotes him as saying the team weren't 'real men'.
A new cooking show on BBC2, Rick Stein's Food Heroes. Stein seems to be on a mission to educate the British away from their asceticism. His message, as he travels around Britain talking to 'small producers who value quality above profit', is that food is a pleasure, and that the super marketing of the supermarket system is actually decreasing our chance of enjoying tasty, interesting and varied food. The French and the Japanese would completely agree, and have protected their small producers and retailers against the ravages of capitalism. But it isn't a French or Japanese person telling the British the error of their ways. It's a British Jew (Rick himself is still an asylum-seeker of sorts: he says on the BBC website 'I've lived in Padstow for about 36 years. As I always say, I'm never going to be a local!'). I find that culturally very telling. British people listen to someone Jewish telling them to enjoy life much more than they'd listen to someone French or Japanese (and on British TV there's a long tradition of this: Lloyd Grossman, the Freuds, the Theroux). It's also possible that Jews see the limitations of Angrael more clearly than anyone else. Perhaps they even feel some degree of responsibility. 'We got you into this ascetic mess,' they seem to be saying, 'but we can get you out of it too.' Like Marx or Freud, Rick Stein can correct some of the mistakes we made when we imported Jewish ideology like the Ten Commandments, but got it all out of context, got it wrong, went too far with it.
The next thing I notice in Britain is a piece of graffiti on Piccadilly that just says 'Blair Out'. It's the first time I've seen that phrase, but I haven't been in Angrael much since the war.
After that, the next thing I notice is an exhibition called State of Play at the Serpentine Gallery. Play is a big theme with me, a corrective to the ambient asceticism and hypocritical moralism and marketing and pluricide and nannying. This great little show is about what I call Cute Formalism, and what Pat Kane calls The Play Ethic. Here at the Serpentine it's all about the tendency of people like Sarah Sze and Martin Creed to use humour and humble materials in their work. Play, like cookery, corrects the puritanism of Angrael but even here a note of caution has to be sounded: never forget the Social Services are watching! The warning comes in a piece by David Shrigley consisting of two table tennis bats (one small, one big) and two balls. The small bat is marked 'Your parents'. The big one is marked 'The Social Services'. The balls, suspended between them, are marked 'You' and 'Your wee sister'.
The next thing I notice happening in Angrael is a Jewish-American photographer getting all panicky at the Photographer's Gallery. She's Betsy Schneider and she's sitting there in the cafe (where I'm chewing a rather dismal British sandwich) talking to journalists on two cellphones and consulting with two other women on what statements to make. Schneider has been caught up in a typically Angraeli farrago. Her exhibition at the Spitz Gallery in Spitalfields Market has been closed just a day after opening because it contains photographs of a naked child: her daughter Madeleine, aged 5. One visitor saw another visitor taking photos of the photo. A complaint was made to the gallery staff, who, terrified of being sued or closed down, draped Schneider's pictures (or should we call them 'graven idols'?) with pieces of cloth and called in the police. After questioning her, the police decided Schneider's photos were lawful.
It turns out that Schneider, who lives in Norway, has had a history of problems with British photo labs, who consistently blow the whistle on people bringing them photos of naked children. The Guardian reports that 'three years ago a student of hers had some nude photos developed and processing staff reported her to the police. She in turn mentioned her teacher's work and Schneider was visited by a child protection team. She managed to prove it was an artistic project and no more action was taken. Sally Mann, for whom Schneider acted as live-in assistant from 1993-95, was subject to threats over her nude photos of children, and Schneider admits it occurred to her that her show, Inventory, could cause some upset.' The next day The Guardian added that Schneider was also arrested after having pictures of a naked Madeleine developed in a laboratory in Soho, but was released without charge. O Angrael, our home and native land!
In a country which cannot deal with beauty except to see it as sin, and which regards images of naked children as sexual by default, this sort of skirmish happens with depressing frequency. The Guardian reminds its readers that 'three years ago, police were called to the Saatchi gallery in north-west London when the question of indecency was raised in connection with photographs by the American Tierney Gearon of her young children in various states of undress. The Gearon case was resolved when Chris Smith, the then culture secretary, intervened on the gallery's behalf with a brisk lecture to the police about censorship. Much of the furore had been got up, with characteristically synthetic moral outrage, by the News of the World.' I think it's relevant to point out that Chris Smith is gay. Light comes to benighted Angrael in the form of liberal jews and gays.
Having been an artist in Angrael myself, I know the temptation to play Marylin Manson-type games of provocation with the press. What better way to use and ruse the great central Angraeli paradox, asceticism combined with worldliness, than to turn puritanism into marketing? How better to turn Angrael's problematic greens (vegetables, children, nature, diversity) into its unproblematic greens (money and the Jealous God)?
Someone who did just that, and lived to laugh last, is back. Genesis P-Orridge, chased out of Britain in a tabloid-and-police Satanic abuse scandal in the early 90s, reforms Throbbing Gristle for an event called RE-TG taking place between the 14th and 16th of May at the appropriately dismal, British-sounding Camber Sands Holiday Centre in East Sussex. There are, of course, site-specific installations by Jake and Dinos Chapman. No doubt they'll turn the centre into a vast Auschwitz-McDonald's internment camp where naked children are fed to asylum seekers. My friend Scanner is there too, and rare Derek Jarman films will be screened.
I'm not quite sure if Re-TG is a refusal of Angraeli values or a darkside celebration of them. It's all Hieronymous Bosch to me. Once upon a time I might have given a damn about the hang-ups of this little island, the left side of the Angrael triangle, where Jerusalem is always being built on whatever green space the dark, satanic mills can spare. First you get 'industry' then you get 'a celebration of industrial music in the 21st century'. First you get 'children should been seen and not heard' then you get 'every naked child a porn star'. Disgust with life leads to marketing, marketing leads to disgust with life. Once upon a time my anger at Angrael might have driven me to seek revenge, and revenge might have been publicity, and publicity might have integrated me, paradoxically, into the national story, and towards exactly such gatherings as Re-TG, this 'coalition of the willful'. Not any more. Life is too short and too good. I will be elsewhere, enjoying it, playing, and trying to learn from people who know that better than I do. Children, homosexuals and foreigners, mostly.
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Another insightful entry, thanks!
Date: 2004-03-10 02:21 am (UTC)Too bad I live in the backwards Americas (30 minutes from Washington DC), where its seemingly difficult to be challenged by outside ideas or cultures on a daily basis.
I learned a lot from your entry, and I'm doing some more reading now in terms of Capitalism and its effects on people's orthodoxy.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 03:52 am (UTC)Thee Capitalist Speaks...
Date: 2004-03-10 04:15 am (UTC)Some advice...
How does one escape? (http://www.livejournal.com/users/automatique/53979.html)
x x x
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 04:42 am (UTC)I agree with your assessments of America/Britain/Israel, but I find it hard to allow myself to escape. Physically, at least. (Although, were I living in Israel, I'm sure I'd find it much easier to leave.) Partially, this is for economic reasons -- it's pricier to leave the US for someplace significantly different than it would be to leave Britain for greener pastures. I've lived in Canada, it's the US without guns. The US has made Mexico into its factory and septic tank, and I'd be an asshole to go there with my poor grasp on the language. I feel a moral obligation to live where I do, because I feel like it needs more good examples, more people in this community acting in resistance. I don't kid myself that activism in this climate can have much of an impact on the western world, but it makes a huge difference in the quality of life of young and poor people in this area who don't have the privilege to be able to leave.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 05:15 am (UTC)'I've just checked with my spies and Rick Stein ain't Jewish. In fact, the DJ Judge Jules (O'Riordan) is his nephew. Better amend blog slightly!'
Oh well, we can still build Jerusalem on this 'stein'.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 05:45 am (UTC)'The theatre was obnoxious to the Puritans, and with the strict exclusion of the erotic and of nudity from the realm of toleration, a radical view of either literature or art could not exist. The conceptions of idle talk, of superfluities, and of vain ostentation, all designations of an irrational attitude without objective purpose, thus not ascetic, and especially not serving the glory of God, but of man, were always at hand to serve in deciding in favour of sober utility as against any artistic tendencies. This was especially true in the case of decoration of the person, for instance clothing. That powerful tendency toward uniformity of life, which today so immensely aids the capitalistic interest in the standardization of production, had its ideal foundations in the repudiation of all idolatry of the flesh.'
Max Weber, 'The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism', Chapter 5
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/WEBER/WeberCH5.html
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 06:32 am (UTC)2) For what particular reason do you lump Israel in with Britain and the U.S.? Israel was born from collectivist movements based on local production, the Kibbutz. It has some marked differences from what the French call "Anglo-saxon capitalism." Is it just because it's fashionable in Europe to think of Israel as an evil proxy imperial state?
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 06:57 am (UTC)'when authors, as was the case with several contemporaries as well as later writers, characterize the basic ethical tendency of Puritanism, especially in England, as English Hebrews they are, correctly understood, not wrong. It is necessary, however, not to think of Palestinian Judaism at the time of the writing of the Scriptures, but of Judaism as it became under the influence of many centuries of formalistic, legalistic, and Talmudic education.'
2) It would be nice to think that Israel had evolved from the left-wing kibbutz movement. But it ain't so. In 1922, the League of Nations granted Britain a mandate over Palestine, confirming British rule. The Mandate, which lasted until 1948, included the establishment of a Jewish homeland. Israel is the state we know today because of huge injections of American aid. I don't think my fictional nation of Angrael is so very far-fetched.
thank you
Date: 2004-03-10 07:37 am (UTC)This was a country that banned alcohol for thirteen years, and has never run out of ways to ban anything fun. The latest is through zoning laws and property taxes.
'The Vagina Monologues' has made its way to rural Wisconsin - you should see the fit some people are throwing here.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 07:55 am (UTC)I`m from Russia.
What about another concert in Moscow, in May?
It will be an indie festival with the bands like The Russian Futurists, Explosions In The Sky, Migala, etc.
We want you there.
Coincidence?
Date: 2004-03-10 08:56 am (UTC)Also, food for thought, this was in the news today:
"Indonesia bans public kissing as part of morality crackdown
Kissing in public and erotic dancing could become a crime punishable by up to five years in prison as part of a proposed clampdown on morality in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, according to news media reports Tuesday."
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/040309/w030940.html
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 09:33 am (UTC)Israel is essentially a US military state. It'd be lovely if it was merely a haven for Jewish refugees, but it is a constantly warring state -- and they're waging that war with weapons gifts of the United States.
Re: Coincidence?
Date: 2004-03-10 09:41 am (UTC)This sort of cultural comparison is pretty subjective in the end. I get a feeling of ugliness from some cultures I've visited, and a feeling of beauty from others. I think some cultures negotiate things like religion and gender better than others. My main concern is that difference itself should be preserved, so that we still have cultural DNA to make these sorts of observations and choices between cultures. I want many models of how to live, not just one, and especially not one which considers itself 'the one right answer'.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 10:02 am (UTC)Re: Israel. This is SO not the forum for a played-out flamewar but I'd like, with your patience, to make a couple small points.
(obligatory proviso: I don't support everything the Israeli government does.)
1) The Brits also promised the Palestinians a state. So did the UN. The Arab countries declared war on Israel at its founding and occupied what was supposed to be Palestine. The Brits also reneged on the Balfour declaration during Nazi persecutions, turning shiploads of Jewish refugees away from Palestine. So it's complicated, but I maintain that Zionists were not agents of western Imperialism, but another group getting dicked around by imperialists.
2) Israel pays for the weapons it buys from the US, just like Indonesia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Canada, UK... Are they US military states? Israel is, regrettably, a military state, but that's because it's been under continuous attack by its neighbours for 55 years, who also buy their weapons from US, UK, Germany, Russia, etc..
3) For some reason Israel is singled out as a symbolic hate-puppet by the left. While some of its actions are criminal and provocative, I see no comparable outcry about far more large-scale violations of human rights in Sudan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc... There seems to be a singular obsession with Israel, especially in the European media.
My apologies for ranting here; I feel a bit like I've let my dog shit on somebody's yard without scooping. Where are the Space Jews when we need them?
Re: Coincidence?
Date: 2004-03-10 11:48 am (UTC)anthony here
Date: 2004-03-10 12:32 pm (UTC)the purtains arent the only option when it comes to worshippers of christ.
call me a tourist
Date: 2004-03-10 01:39 pm (UTC)i find that i am able to escape American culture simply by being antisocial. i wouldn't say that i am completely unaffected, but i manage. i don't have the means to migrate, besides. of course, i understand that being unsociable would not be a solution in some other society. i guess you could say that i am lucky. don't get me wrong, i am not some kind of homebody. but, to me, travel is a chance to see what other places have to offer in terms of geography (more specifically, physical geography), and not so much a form of protest. i should be so lucky.
Re: Coincidence?
Date: 2004-03-10 02:55 pm (UTC)I love England, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else, except perhaps Ireland for a couple of months a year, but then I spend a lot of time growing up in France, where my father grew up, and where my grandparents still are. On an honest comparison, England wins on almost every measure...
... but I do see the appeal of going to Paris, knowing nobody, rebuilding myself as a personality from scratch, reinventing my history, and hanging around with quirky intellectuals. I won't do it, deep down I'm quite dull, but still. If I were purely French, I think London would hold that appeal in spades, if it weren't for the cost of living.
How much is a flat in Jerusalem this time of year?
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Date: 2004-03-10 03:26 pm (UTC)1) the recipient of more annual aid from America than any other country (for amounts see The Jewish Virtual Lobby (http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US-Israel/U.S._Assistance_to_Israel1.html)
2) a significant force in American politics, most manifestly through AIPAC (http://www.aipac.org/), The Israeli-American Public Affairs Committee, which is in the same league as the National Rifle Association and The American Association of Retired People in terms of influence (in other words, it's in the top three).
The moral weight of Isreal's sins compared to those of other governments is not at issue for me. What is at issue is the difference between the moral gap between the Israeli government and certain other regimes compared to the policy gap between bombing, occupying, and sanctioning these regimes versus awarding Israel three billion dollars anually.
For example, the United States never, ever, complains about Israel's clandestine nuclear program, even while citing Iraq's development of such a program as a justification for invasion. Similarly with the U.S. attitude towards U.N. resolutions - for example, it is instructive to contrast public discourse in the US on the importance of enforcing UN resolutions where resolution 1441 on Iraq is concerned compared to the same where resolutions 242 and 338 on the Israeli settlements are at stake.
Which is to say, that the US government is not at all consistent in its moral stances. This is concealed from the American public, with their aquiescence, in order to maintain an appearance of unequivical moral righteousness informing U.S. actions. Thus, most Americans don't know that Israel has nuclear weapons, or that there are outstanding UN resolutions against it. And many don't want to know; this repression allows citizens firmly entrenched in a binary worldview to maintain a morally coherent and palatable idea of what their government is doing even in the
midst of all these obvious contradictions. Derrida said that coherence in contradiction always expresses the force of a desire. In this case, it is the desire shared by the American government and more or less secretly or overtly by the vast majority of American citizens that America retain its place as the world's only superpower.
The strategic relationhip between Israel and the United States is strengthened by and strengthens the cultural ties between the people of the two nations. Very few people, at least very few Americans, want be allies with people who, in their worldview, are bad. So the common reference point of the Old Testament is played up and the the story of the Jews is recast in a such a way as to align with American sensibilities. There are very good raw materials for this retelling: common points in the religious traditions, the embodiment of some version of "the American Dream" by Jews out of proportion of their numbers, the ritual of circumcision, and of course, the bond forged through the events of the Holocaust and the liberation of what was left of the concentration camps.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 03:31 pm (UTC)Israel and certain portions of the American right tirelessly promote Israel as "the home of all Jewish people" and attempt to bind the idea of "Israeliness" and "Jewishness" together in a tautological relationship. This works well rhetorically for all concerned as long as Israeli and American interests remain aligned,
but if they were ever to diverge sharply, then there would be no obstacle to the rampant pro-semitism that currently predominates in the American psyche to become rampant anti-semitism. Both attitudes turn on the notion of their object being "chosen". The former arises in the element of shared interests (keeping the mid-east under wraps) and is characterized by tolerance, patronization, respect, and admiration. The latter arises in the context of conflicting interests (not enough food for too many mouths) and is characterized by hatred, resentment, anger, destruction. The pervasiveness of the notion of "chosenness" in Jewish identity serves to exacerbate pro and anti semetic impulses to their extremes and to restrict the possibility of viewpoints operating outside of this binary. The argument over whether Jews are chosen for special suffering or special reward could possibly be seen as a central figure in Jewish history. To the degree that every Jew is implicated by society as part of "the Jews", he risks being caught in the upswing of this singular pendulum. Nevertheless, Nazis and Zionists collaborate to perpetuate the definition and extend it even to those who don't want it.
In my opinion the idea of "the Jew" is one of the most interesting and fertile ideas in western thought, and currently, in America if not in Europe or other parts of the world, is one of the most difficult and dangerous to talk about. Consequently, I apologize if I have offended anyone's sensibilities.
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Date: 2004-03-10 04:09 pm (UTC)Another insightful entry. Thanks!
I love kissing your ass.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-10 07:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-03-11 12:20 am (UTC)After reading your response, I found On the Jewish Question (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/) by Karl Marx. I hoped it would give some insight into his assimilationist position. I suppose it did, indirectly. Additionally, it helped me to understand the basis on which the Israeli state offends my sensibilities. Although I am not a Christian, I am severely addicted to what Marx calls "the political realization of Christianity": secular democracy. It irks me in the extreme when religion (or economics, for that matter) intervenes or threatens to intervene in the political structures of American democracy, and to the extent that they do I feel disenfranchised and disillutioned.
Israel defines itself as a Jewish state, and on the exact same grounds given above I think that *sucks*. It upsets me very much that my government gives so much in annual aid to such a country while expressing so little criticism (virtually none!!) of its governing philosophy.
It might be these feelings that lead me to undertake such exercises as deconstructing the nazi/jew opposition (in addition to it being so taboo, and therefore so tempting). But being such a marxist, or american, or whatever, it seems to me that the repeated positing of an absolute
*and priviledged* identity that traverses ethnic, national, and religious dimensions is a problem from whatever angle you look at it.
C.
p.s. on the other hand, I don't endorse K.M.'s specific characterization of the "actual Jew" towards the end of the essay. These characterizations offend my sensibilities.
Re: call me a tourist
Date: 2004-03-11 04:26 am (UTC)Re: call me a tourist
Date: 2004-03-11 06:56 am (UTC)"Religion teaches you that the body is unclean and sex is a sin," (or words to that effect), he went on. Seldom that such remarks make their way through the filter of commercial (albeit cable) TV.
Here on the western side of Angrael, we are going through a kulturkampf such as never been seen before: On one hand, we have millions of people feeling it is somehow their religious duty to go see "The Passion" and vote for George II, and on the other, gay marriages are erupting all over the land. These are interesting times in Angrael, Momus. You're lucky to be living elsewhere.
Re: call me a tourist
Date: 2004-03-11 07:19 am (UTC)http://www.pbs.org/alifeapart/intro_2.html
Re: call me a tourist
Date: 2004-03-11 09:11 am (UTC)Perhaps, like Siddartha, we need to try out both sensualism and asceticism, and then seek a healthy balance. At very least, either route helps you appreciate the benefits of the other. In modern-day Angrael, it's too much either/or.
Re: call me a tourist
Date: 2004-03-17 09:16 am (UTC)As for questioning Industrial music, fine.
The trouble with what you are saying is that the whole 'Momus' thing is based on consumerism. Tarted up as 'cottage' industry - just like a lot of Japanese consumerism. Fake folk. Fake plastic trees. Digi-paks and reissues.
Like the Beastie Boys Grand Royale - capitalists just like daddy but a bit more 'pop'.
CRAFT vs INDUSTRY
Craft is very fashionable at the momment. All very William Morris - soft edged socialism.
Industry is corporate - Sending kids up chimneys. Exploitation of the masses type stuff.
"Real" folk music i.e immigrant music, or underclass music reeks of poverty because it is made by people who have no choices, stylistically or otherwise. This is why its funny to mock. Like the kids at school who smelt of piss.
That isn't in your folk music because you are "rich". The world is your playground, you can reject your boundaries because you have disposable cash. Or rather you are 'time' rich - most people make money but don't have the time to be in galleries, drinking coffee in Old Street so on. You website is about the Momus lifestyle.
Metropolis - is a future where the rich play and the underclass do all the real work.
"It's all Hieronymous Bosch to me". OK fine, but its not to me. Its more like GOYA or Passolini's SALO or DE SADE. Its about power and control. The ability to control your identity and not be bullied by people with more power than you. The abused becomes the abuser (Israel).
Japan isn't exactly the utopia its cracked up to be. No country is. By the way this list is full of the most unquestioning sheep I have ever met. Ooohh yes momus I like totally agree!!!!
Love,
Sam
In reply to Wednesday, March 10th, 2004
Date: 2004-03-17 09:18 am (UTC)As for questioning Industrial music, fine.
The trouble with what you are saying is that the whole 'Momus' thing is based on consumerism. Tarted up as 'cottage' industry - just like a lot of Japanese consumerism. Fake folk. Fake plastic trees. Digi-paks and reissues.
Like the Beastie Boys Grand Royale - capitalists just like daddy but a bit more 'pop'.
CRAFT vs INDUSTRY
Craft is very fashionable at the momment. All very William Morris - soft edged socialism.
Industry is corporate - Sending kids up chimneys. Exploitation of the masses type stuff.
"Real" folk music i.e immigrant music, or underclass music reeks of poverty because it is made by people who have no choices, stylistically or otherwise. This is why its funny to mock. Like the kids at school who smelt of piss.
That isn't in your folk music because you are "rich". The world is your playground, you can reject your boundaries because you have disposable cash. Or rather you are 'time' rich - most people make money but don't have the time to be in galleries, drinking coffee in Old Street so on. You website is about the Momus lifestyle.
Metropolis - is a future where the rich play and the underclass do all the real work.
"It's all Hieronymous Bosch to me". OK fine, but its not to me. Its more like GOYA or Passolini's SALO or DE SADE. Its about power and control. The ability to control your identity and not be bullied by people with more power than you. The abused becomes the abuser (Israel).
Japan isn't exactly the utopia its cracked up to be. No country is. By the way this list is full of the most unquestioning sheep I have ever met. Ooohh yes momus I like totally agree!!!!
Love,
Sam
Re: In reply to Wednesday, March 10th, 2004
Date: 2004-03-29 07:56 am (UTC)"From the Land of the North Star, Nunavut Loves Israel"
with the flags of Nunavut and Israel
just wanted to share that...
i always enjoy a nick currie essay
geronimo!
I'm curious.
Date: 2006-01-09 11:32 pm (UTC)Re: I'm curious.
Date: 2006-01-14 04:55 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-08-16 03:01 am (UTC)